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There is a <a href=/explore/polls.php?act=vote&poll=88>new poll</a> for you to vote in :)

Note: This post is for <u>constructive</u> criticism. That means tell us <i>what</i> is wrong with the pet, in your opinion. Personal attacks on the staff, or the artist responsible ('this fails', 'you suck as an artist', 'why did this get polled?!') will result in being banned from comments, and probably a warning :(. Be nice!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Para
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I'm not too fond of the smile, or how huge the eyes are. I have no idea what it is about the smile, but I just don't like it. Maybe I'm the only one.

Other than that, It's great artwork. A much-needed revamp.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

The only thing I would change, is the wing color and the way the arms are bent instead of hanging down straight like the original. Other than that, I think it was very well done!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by MysticGem
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Hi poeples

ok I have voted in the poll I do like this new Torrey but prefer if it had the bushier tail that the old one had and as for the wings instead of dark brown on the tips maybe a lighter color Then again what do I know I am not an artist Keep up the great work guys

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Soulfreak
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It's so adorable! Thos irresistable doe eyes and that fluffy tail...I do concur that the wing color is a little odd but it's still pretty...my only real issue with this is that the feet are a bit too furry...like it's wearing slippers...but otherwise, amazing work!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Satamoru
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I don't like the almost human-anime like face. It looks more like an anime characters face, not a squirral. I think the nose needs to be shortened, and the cheek fur cut back. The feet should have a flatter base, but other then that, I like it ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Also I like to add its YOUR creation, not ours or anyone else. People seem to just post what they want and seem to demand you do it, ignore them if you want. Again, good work

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Anticosmo_442
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December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I really like it, but I think the eye should be the same colour they used to be. Also, perhaps the muzzle should be a bit wider. However, I really love this revamp.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Arvore
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I don't very much like it, the cheek fur seems to be off and the nose is a bit tweaked, his facial features don't look to be the best either and his feet are in very strange positions

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by karoia
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The feet kinda creep me out. Then I looked at the old one and saw it had the same feet XD So either way I'd be creeped out!

I love the eyes and wings of the new one, and the style. Great job!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I say it looks great. No reason for people to get anal about it, everything about it seems fine. Keep up with it

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like this version of the Torrey much better. =3

My only critique is that I think the muzzle is a tad bit too small; the feet are just a little bit under-featured; and the wing seems a little splayed-- maybe have four feathers instead of three?

Other than those little things, the new image is great. =D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by ache
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It's really cute! I just think the chest area is a bit skinny. :3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Linzeh
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Love it so much, just the wing color is a little.. random~? Other than that, great job. <3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I still love the way it looks. Its adorable and cuddly looking. Love it.

Kudos to the artist. ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tammy
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Yeah I guess I am not a nit picker. I think it looks excellent and adorable and am glad I own one. Fantastic job Jaggers <3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Memory
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Fabulous. Although, the wings don't anatomically look like they're connected to the back itself, more like they're connected to the arms. Unless there's a longer, thinner section connecting the wings and back that we just can't see in this pose? Either way, I love the new wing colour. ^^ The muzzle looks a little off, too. It seems very small, and given the stretch of the smile, too small to accomidate that wide a mouth. Its left foot (its left, on the right when we're looking at it) seems a bit off proportionally, even including the fact that this is more of a 3/4 view then a frontal view. As Quezy mentined, the fur gives it a Dr. Seuss-like appearance, which I personally think is adorable, and fits the Torrey well, so whoever thought to throw that in there is one smart cookie. ^^ Sorry if I've sounded like a nit-picker. D= I'm just throwing my opinion into the ring.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Bagheera23608
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I want to hug the artist, as I always want to do when these things come out, well, except for GY pets...... And I LOVE the wings....pouts

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Kalnu
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My redline.

I noticed lately a lot of redrawn pets are so ...... chibi, its the eyes that do it, I really don't think its a step in the right direction seeing as Subeta is just for kids. I don't get why the new style is cutesy and huge chibi eyes? I thought thats what the chibi potion was for, not for the normal pets. Sorry, but I liked that the pets on the subeta were more grown up and less chibi than on most sites. Though, thats my own two cents.

Uhh, aside from what I redlined and that little complaint about everything being so chibi, I like that the torrey is finally starting to get some attention, also, the new art is very nice. Kudos.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Jethros_Dark_Angel
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I like the eyes but not a big fan of the wing colors, maybe a tanish or light brown instead of the redish purply color

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by AraunasGirl
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The torrey is in need of a revamp as the poor little thing looks terribly outdated compared to some of the other pets.

This revamp just doesn't seem like a torrey. The torrey had a sort of squerl-fox feel (to me anyway) and the revamp looks more like rat-squerl feel. Its face is too wide and its muzzle too thin. Torrey before seemed like it would have a longer, not a wider face more like a dogs muzzle. The revamp also seems taller, thinner overall and more upstanding. He stops looking like a squerl when it looses its lean, the thinness makes it seem more like a well kept pet, but if squerls looked like well kept pet and not fat preparing for winter squerls they wouldn't like them as much. Squerls are chubby, makes them cute.

The redline people are posting does look much nicer, but I'd like to see the squerl/chipmunk lean come back as well.

And the wings....and eyes...can they be tan/green again? The red and blue don't match its colors well and just kinda seem randomly thrown in there because you prefer the colors or something....its just...not the same.

Great piece on its own, beautiful piece in fact.

Just not a Torrey.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I think that the new art is superbly done, however, it just doesn't scream Torrey to me The new pose changes the character of the creature.

Specifically, I preferred the green eyes and the faintly subservient (or perhaps obeisant would be a better word) look to the old one.

Although it doesn't address the loss of the old pose, the redline edit in AcaciaKumori's post captures the qualities of the redraw that the staff seems to have been looking for but also pulls a little more from the old look.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Poetry_464
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I like the color of the wings, but I'd suggest making the eyes a little darker so that they compliment the wings and fur better. None-the-less, I'm voting for the revamp...thanks for your time spent redrawing

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by MandoWifey
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The wings are sooo much cuter than the old ones, and the bright blue eyes. I like this new version also because it looks a lot fuzzyer. Nice one!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Pippa
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In my opinion, the pose needs to be more relaxed, and the pet is slightly too thin. Also the foot on the right could use a bit of work, it looks somewhat strange. Overall, it looks great, though. c:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Spie
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Aww, it looks so much prettier than the old one! Good job artist ! I like the color of the wings, the purple goes really well with the brown.

I think the mouth-part is a little too tiny, and the upperarms are too thin in contrast with the lower arms and paws, but that's just me being picky.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by MONSTER
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Better, but the feet seem to fluffy, as though it's wearing socks. The face is a bit to wide for its small snout. Could the eyes possibly be smaller though?

Other than that, very good.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Pink
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I really like Exterior's red line version. THAT is cute.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I don't dislike it--it's actually really nicely coloured and shaded and detailed--but there's just a few things that are a little off, all of which have been mentioned before: I like green eyes better with the brown; the purple wings seem a little odd though not actually bad; the right side leg seems a bit unbalanced; the new expression loses some of that goofball charm.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Artificer_791
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Great! A revamp for Torrey!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I would like it better if the feet and snout were changed, I love silverpaws edit and I also think it would look really cool if you had the center of the eye around the pupil dark purple and fade to a lilac purple on the outside. Or the same idea with a Forest green on the inside and a pastel green on the outside

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Loki_826
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Everything looks great, but I prefer the green eyes and old wing color. Other than that, it's stunning!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I voted new. I do like the eyes better green rather than blue. The smile is very cute. The wings give me pause... maybe a teeny bit bigger and add a bit of green. Man, I must be in a green mood. But this looks fresh and new and is very pretty.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Pink
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I say, make the eyes a bit smaller, maybe also make the head a little smaller. The eyes might look better as a green color, and make the upper leg part a little hairier.

That's all I have to say. Other than those things, tis not so bad.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rarre
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I absolutely LOVE the detail of the new Torre, but I do like the green eyes better, as well as the lighter color wings. Other then that, I think its gorgeous! Amazing job to the artist!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by moth_474
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Oopsie, repeated myself. Sorry!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by moth_474
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Hm... this one's cute, but the snout looks a little too thin and almost wolfish, and the feet and hands look... awkward. The feet remind me of the Grinch, and the snout looks too thin. I think that if I had gone for the old Torrey, I wouldn't go for the new one. :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Disfan
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I really like the new design. Great job!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Striderrr
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I basically liked how the old one was so cutely innocent, and had green eyes. Now it just looks too grown-up. :c Atleast give us the green eyes back, plz! D=

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by UnwelcomeGhost
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Please relax the pose a bit... o_o I think the face is a bit too wide. And the eyes could be a bit rounder instead of... that shape.

There's still a few more things that could be done, but overall it looks pretty good.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Karazhan
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You know, I don't understand why everyone is freaking out about the wings. It's a lovely revamp, and purple and brown contrast each other perfectly! Definitely voting for the new one! Bravo!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by PaintedSavages
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Yes, I tend to go on and on - apologies.!!

I like the adjusted (red-line) propositions a good deal. But he is still WAY too think at the shoulders - even in the red-lines. He used to be poofy and now he's Lanky (tall and skinny) - already said by me, I know. I only speak out so much because I have a singular Torrey that is VERY special to me - if he were changed TOO much, I might be devastated.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

The snout looks too skinny and the legs seem too skinny as well. The legs and feet remind me of the Grinch. I like Silverpaw's edit, but I don't think the toes have to be shown. I like the color of the wings and I think the eye color is fine.

Thank you for your time and effort, I can't wait to see the final product. =)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Greymane
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The feet make me think of the Grinch. xD

And as I always manage to pick a random part of art that I love the smirk wins. It's faint and just adorable!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by caito
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I love it, especially the higher quality of the artwork. Great job

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by PaintedSavages
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OK amendment, The Iris is too oval; more round, please!!! <3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by NightStar_08
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Awesome! I love this new one, except I would like green eyes and I don't like the feet.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by AcaciaKumori
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I also completely agree with OtakuOokami when she said;

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">The current Torrey's pose is sort of a relaxed slouch, a "C" shape, with the head cocked to the side ever so slightly. The proposed revamp's pose is ramrod straight and very stiff. Less relaxed and cool and more like...a cute squirrel begging for nuts. This change in posture also has an impact on how the Torrey looks, just as much as the anatomy and the coloration.
I do like the new pose. But I very much agree that the Torrey's attitude is completely different. I'm afraid that I have nothing to offer to fix the pose, however, and I'm not asking you to fix the pose. Please simply keep it in mind if you decide to change the revamp to fit our requests.

I'm sorry if I sound demanding, or if I sound like I'm guilting you into something, but I'm really trying not to. Besides, the more I look at the revamp the more it grows on me, and I liked it to begin with. ;D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Snicklefritz
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The old Torrey was so cute! I wanted to just hug it because it looked so innocent and sweet. This Torrey is so different. Same basics but it's almost too different. The muzzle is the area that needs the most work, as well as the posture. The wings bother me because they don't really seem to match, almost like they belong on another pet entirely. The tail reminds me of a Popoko? I can't remember how to spell it. The ears are cute on the upside. I think the feet ad arms need repositioning and some toes would be awesome. I like the detailing. I would LOVE to see the old Torrey just be redrawn, same posture and all, just prettier.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by aiya
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It's well drawn and the colors are better, but the expression on the old one is just more fun, it has more personality. The new one is good, but compared to the old one, its kind of blah, no energy. I know. It would be easier to change the eye color, but I think the great subeta artists are up to the challenge of giving it more life, so to speak.

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