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Feb 11, 2015 11 years ago
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Just wanted to let you guys know that we&;re reading every post here, and we&;ve already had some discussions about re-allocating stats and how we&;ll compensate anyone who&;s above the cap when it goes into effect. I don&;t think I can say anything concrete yet, but just know that we are listening! and I are glad that most of you are happy with the type of cap and the numbers we&;ve decided on. :)</p>
<p>And yes, the hard cap will be raised in the future, but not until a bunch of people have hit it. We&;re brainstorming ways to keep people who do hit the cap entertained while they wait for a raise!

Feb 11, 2015 11 years ago
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Piety

Consider it a long term investment in to a perfect pet. Of course if you're satisfied with your current build, it'd be useless to you, or if you think your build will be fine to build on when the new stat cap is made, again it'll be useless. But otherwise, it seems like a decent way to introduce stat reducers, being something that directly takes effort in battling to use, and helps a bit with the problem of not wanting people to insta-boost to the new cap. Anyone who wants to reduce some of their stats is going to have to call it a loss at some point. And it doesn't make sense to have it in a way that's not directly earned through battling. Battle shop for a big price would be fine, but I think exp for a large price is even better.

Feb 11, 2015 11 years ago
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There is no argument to the benefits of reallocating stats and it makes sense to have the method be battle related. I doubt anyone would argue that. It IS intriguing, and if the cost wasn't crazy I might use it, if only to round down the numbers.

I believe in the well thought out plan for the cap that included the planed future raise of the cap. The only real question is wheather or not NOW is the time to raise it.

Before dropping a bunch of speed and defense just to raise health, my faith of a cap raise would have to breathe it'sr last dieing breath, and I would have to succumb to giving up :)

Feb 13, 2015 11 years ago
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I'm really sorry to ping you, but with the newer BQ out now I feel like there needs to be a bit more transparency on this issue. You say that the cap will eventually be raised - is this going to be a large raise? I want to know if it's worth me BQing with my capped pet from levels 15-30 (lower ones will be my baby pets) or if I'm going to end up with lots of EXP and time that goes to waste once it's raised.

Feb 16, 2015 11 years ago
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It's always worth it :) Besides you'll get a good drop rate on the big battle shop tokens anyhow, which can be traded down to buy boosters, which can go back to your little pet :D.

Feb 16, 2015 11 years ago
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Yeah the revamped quests are pretty generous with the tokens :)!

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Capped pets should have the option to move exp to a different pet, exp gets reset on capped pets once the cap is raised. Does that not sorta fix the exp issue?

I am against a cap increase* until I am capped, just so I can catch up ;)

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Capped pets should have the option to move exp to a different pet, exp gets reset on capped pets once the cap is raised. Does that not sorta fix the exp issue?</p>
<p>I am against a cap until I am capped, just so I can catch up ;)

This is one of the options we're considering. I am just fearing my house being burned down when we make a choice like this, but I agree that we need to do it sooner rather than later.

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Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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I'd bring a torch to that party :/ That sounds like a horrible idea. Not horrible but certainly not a good idea >.< Capped pets earn xp a million time easier than a lowbie pet, and lowbie pets get a shit ton more stats per xp than a capped pet. I'm not sure this is the solution to the problem, and I'm not totally convinced the xp is such a huge problem anyways. If we look at the amount of boosters people have hoarded up, that's where the real insta-capping is going to come from... Some people have enough boosters to cap 2-3 pets. In the future I'd rather see stats more linked to effort in battling and boosting more of a bonus than an easy street :/. But that effort should be bound pet by pet as it is now of course.

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Well it's either something like this or no cap raise. Can't they just deal with it?

Idk if there's any good solution to the exp thing. As for boosters, it's their choice to spend hundreds of millions on boosting. Not much can be done about the ones already out there, but exp can be controlled. Unless you make it so boosters do not work on pets over the old cap.

I meant a cap increase at the bottom of my other post. But I do think we need an increase. I just want to catch up xD

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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That's actually what I'd like to see, boosting post cap being the same as boosting at the cap now. But with BQs being the only source of xp, it's not really viable. If BQ xp was toned down a bit and challenger xp toned down a lot and made to give xp after win 10, it could work though. INB4 everyone has 5 capped pets :D. ofc for some people they'll ALL be even statted XD. But I think it's a WAY better idea than 10 people having mega pets if there was no cap lol.

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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I am against no cap since it kinda kills any future content potential. Everything would need to be made so difficult and they already learned this lesson.

I actually wouldn't mind raising the cap but making a cap boost = old cap. Achievement for the cap should still be the old cap. Tier 13 exp per stat could be increased so bqs don't need changed again but exp after win 10 as you've mentioned before is something I like.

Excuse any typoes, posting from my phone

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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As long as it actually took some decent amount of time and effort to recap, I'd be happy enough to give up the xp I already have accumulated without transferring it to another pet XD. I wanna play this game and actually be doing something progressive for more than an hour a day of questing lol.

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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I wouldn't be losing out since I'm not capped but I think I'd feel the same way as you do. But post old cap should be more difficult to gain stats so people actually work for stuff. This in combination with stat reallocation would make me happy

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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How about you leave this with Purge and Cran and just give them the mandate and coding resources they obviously need instead?

It's painful to watch you try to pretend you understand the battle system when we can all tell that you don't, every damned time you post. You're the boss, so be the boss and let the BAs do their thing. It'll work out much better.

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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EXP transfer is a horrible idea imo. Among other reasons, what stops someone with 10mil exp creating a new pet with an instant 9k+ HP.

2ndly, dont touch boosters please. If you want, reduce shinwas double reward rate or Quentin's amulet reward rate. DONT put a restriction on those who ALREADY have them. Users with a bunch had to buy them. It wasnt free/given. (also if there wasnt a cap or theres a raise, people wouldnt hoard as much). Im using most of my poverty stash once/if the cap moves/dies.

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I am against a cap increase* until I am capped, just so I can catch up ;)

Im just gonna assume you're joking, so what im saying is not directed at you. but this is why some are pissed.

BRB heavily supports cap BRB changes mind once caught up.

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Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Piety

Well you've stated that you don't like/ dont do BQs and that you haven't battled in forever, so not much surprise you'd dislike something that actually required effort in battling XD just a teency bit of bias eh?

There's definitely some truth to that, but I'd rather the boss actually learn and be more involved so it fits nicer into the site as a whole, which it could and ought to, but doesn't :(.

Just think, you could have 4 capped pets or summat instead of one XD. No, I definitely understand how it would suck for you, but I think from the greater perspective it'd prolly be an improvement site wide. I just don't see a good argument not to have getting better at battling being directly linked to battling itself. It's the direction that weapons have been headed in, it only makes sense for stats to follow. And there'd still be boosting up to the current cap. And with a stat cap, having multiple capped pets is always an advantage. More loot and all that jazz.

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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I second that with the EXP transfer not being a good idea. Imagine transferring millions of exp to a tier 1 pet that only needs 100-150 exp per stat, or other lower tier pets. It's analogous to them battle questing the harder challengers for who know how long, 2 years? That's way too many stats.

I mentioned about converting capped exp to hard battle tokens, and while I'm not sure if it's an OK idea, at least it isn't affected by tiers.

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I am against a cap increase* until I am capped, just so I can catch up
Haha, that's such a flip flop. Sorry, I can't take that seriously :D

Feb 20, 2015 11 years ago
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@ mike

I am going to boost my other pets (no arguments there), im just holding off until i see what happens to the cap. Unsurprisingly, my main gets priority.

What im saying if you cant use boosters past the "old cap" then everyone is on the same track/at the same speed, to the 'new cap.' There's no competition. (Also, how many people have the resources to insta cap? must be less than 1% of battlers)

Also, what i dont want to happen, is for someone to get the idea of removing boosters like what was done in the past (i think while Ryan was BA? dont recall fully). that, to me, is utter BS. It's unlikely it will happen, but it has happened before.

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