While figuring out where Blackmoons clover restocks at a friend coughkbbobcough said it was listed wrong at SubetaLodge and then said something about weapons being inaccurate too. This upsets me. I don't like things being inaccurate. Ive finished adding the boosters by stats to the list and now Im going to try and fix the weapons at the Lodge.

When I add items to the database it automatically enters the same information you see in the item hover. Weapons take some additional steps after they're initially added but end up the same way: We all know that ain't right. But that's something I can't change. If I plug in numbers that contradict the weapon hover, the cron(?) will put it back after midnight. Instead I've updated the weapon notes, it should be correct now.

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I know most of y'all don't need to look at a weapon list to decide what you're going to use but even if you'll never check it, you might know something that's listed incorrectly. TBH I dropped the ball. I haven't been paying attention to weapon changes or the notes about scaling weapons. Hopefully that's the majority of the problem. By following the weapons guide I can fix that.

The Weapon Guide

What I can't fix is anything listed wrong that's not on that list. Something that's hover shows infinite when it's single use or OBP, things like that. Healing being changed, the freeze/steal being wrong, an issue with blessings/curses being off or because there's multiples they should be listed in the Weapon notes, things like that.

If you can think of anything that's wrong and needs to be edited or there are weapon notes not mentioned in the guide, PLEASE let me know.

I'm just getting started but the Smoldering Slaglord Gauntlets has base stats, ?-950 Def > Str and 1000 > Str listed. Anyone know the dividing line for the first def boost or if theres any blessing(s) or curse(s)?

And because I just noticed some notes show def icons listed as nature, shadow, lava, aqua, electric? When did that change from the usual earth, dark, magma, water, lightning and um, why? Do I need to edit the weapon notes I've done the old way to those?

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

(edits this was the problem, different links are posted here and there, check out the scaled one so you can see the accurate icons ect instead of what was there before)

I think the shadow, lava etc stuff was to more easily differentiate between attack and defensive icons in the guides. I'm not 100% sure though.

The Possessed Bow has no mention of it's rare attack that freezes and gives a one turn curse.

And can I make a suggestion for that searchable weapon database that you're making for the lodge? First of all, it's a really great idea to have a searchable database! That helps a lot! But I'd personally like to see more sorting options. Sometimes for lower tier pets (for instance tier 3), I'd also like to see the weapons in the lower tiers, since there might be some good attackers which are better or cheaper than the current tier, so in that case I'd like to search for all tier 3 and lower weapons. For my bigger pets, I'd like the opposite. Since there are hardly any tier 12 weapons, and several tier 10 weapons are also top notch, I'd like to search for tiers 10-12 combined. And when I search for weapons that defend fire damage for instance, I don't want to see all weapons that defend only one or two icons while I know there are weapons that defend 10 or more, so it'd be nice to be able to sort them on amount blocked or something, or to give a miminum amount of icons dealt or defended.

I think that's just a different interpretation of what the icon types are called, physical is referred to as metal sometimes too. Thank you for doing this!

I am pretty sure has the stats for which is a scaler. I will take a look at lodge + my armory today and find everything else I know is a scaling weapon that doesn't appear so on lodge.

A lot of the mistakes found in the weapons guide--nature, metal, aqua, etc.--are the results of copying and pasting what had written down on her Tier pets' profiles. And since then, a lot of them haven't been checked or fixed, especially after full-blocking was removed from some weapons.

That's why I wanted to create a weapons testing thread so corrections can be made to old weapons, while testing of new weapons is all congregated on one thread, instead of getting lost in the sea of other posts on the BC thread.

As for the Slaglord Gauntlets' partial data, I don't think I ever found out what the actual custom coding was. But I may be wrong. In any case, I can fix it as soon as someone fills me in on its stats.

The defense is called something different than the offense and I still don't really know why. It's not like we say "This weapon deals 10 physical and 10 metal", we would say "this weapon deals 10 physical and blocks 10 physical." To me it seems more confusing than helpful.

the attack block icon denotations were made different so that you could easily search for something that blocks an icon type without sifting through everything that deals that icon type.

I haven't been interested in testing weapons lately, but if that changes I'll try to help.

Oh if that was done on purpose to distinguish offense/defense, I agree with this is more confusing than helpful.

Yo. It was because Echo wanted people to be able to search for it using ctrl+f.

I don't know anything about inaccurate stats, but this should be checked…or something? "Notes: CHECK BATTLE NOTES"

I know nothing about setting up anything beyond adding whatever info I can find to the weapons on site. I do know that our weapons search is as refined as they can make it - tier, type, what it does, how long it lasts and the icons - which was done by programmers and girlfriend that aint me, LOL! Not that I wouldnt love to see a subeta IDB but I'm not capable of making one

I've got one of those but no time to test, there's a lot to sort out lol! Let me know what yall find out.

Go for it! We use to run weapon testing all the time. There's nothing wrong with setting up a thread and asking for help like I did here, yall could even make your own ping group for finding out whats happening when something new comes out. I cant take time to test anything until I get this sorted out but when Im caught up, I'll help. I've got an array of weapons that I'll dig out if needed..

Excellent - its for searching the topics here, not a change I have to make at subetalodge phew

Ok that's disturbing. I wonder if it was from way back when they had paired saggi's blade and I think it was the ether (maybe not). do you remember? Having the blade and something else in your kit combo gave a sweet amount of damage and the combo didn't last long is the only thing I remember.

I'm positive I removed the weapon notes but forgot about item notes. I can't think of any other reason I would put that there except it was part of a combo and I forgot to remove that from item notes when they changed it. I'll make a note of it and when I have this project done I'll dig out the blade if no one's verified my memory to make sure theres nothing spectacular about the blade.

I've gone ahead and started writing up a weapons testing thread in a notepad document, so hopefully it will prove to be helpful. ^^

I didn't know you worked on Subetalodge. xD

Yep, I'm that Laurie, and I seriously dropped the ball on the weapon notes. Still no clue how I'll make combos make sense - but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. I hated the Forj combo mess, I doubt that feeling's changed much xD

It just dawned on me I need to change the tiers to include 13 and make sure nothings changed there too. This could take awhile.

Only these healers have "takes healer slot" in notes. Only these stealers have "takes stealer slot" in notes. Only these freezers have "takes freezer slot" in notes. This might not matter, since the weapon list seems accurate, but site search isn't. Examples of items missing from their respective searches: In addition, searches for "spot" in place of "slot" turn up different items.

I will try and sit down when I have some time to kill and go through the lodge's weapon list and my gallery and armory and see if I see anything that is wrong... I am only missing 49 weapons on the site so I should be able to help out with most of them..:)

I believe is opb instead of semi-breakable, lemme test this a few more times but I don't recall it ever not being opb

Ahh...well, I'll look through the weapons guide thread here and note what needs to be tested, and I can let you know when I've made changes to my sections. ^^

Yeah, the amount of weapons and the different types of weapons are such a bitch. Especially the scaling ones. WHY JASON WHY

Appreciate that y'all ❤

I've done a note search for all freezer, stealer and healer "spot" and changed them for uniformity to Takes XXXXXX slot of Does not take XXXXX slot, thanks for pointing those out.

Going over "spot" and "slot" notes reminded me just how many silly little things that no one would ever use are actually classified as freezers like the Pumpkin Vine Whip. Who in their right mind would put that in as a freezer!? Or a batwing blade as your healer!?

I also saw several godlies I had put "Does not take Healer slot" in notes for because they heal. Not like they had healer in their name, or were full blockers or anything like that .. just because they had % healing.

headdesk Im gonna take that useless tidbit of text out of notes as soon as I regain consciousness.

I also remember why I hate HTML so much

Anyone know if testing's been done on the Extendable Elemental Trident?

I don't think removing "does not take the healer slot" is necessary because there are % healers that do, like ice king clawed gloves or whatever they're named.

[edit] I think I misunderstood kbbob, sorry. The clawed gloves do take the healing slot but aren't noted as such on SL site search.

Yeah that's what I am saying, there are %healers that do take the healer slot so adding that information in for weapons that don't adds clarity.

Oh was that not mentioned on lodge? Thanks for checking that :)

Edit: ah gotcha :p