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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
Kevin
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Wuf

Some good testing going on.

I know skull staff was set up like that but had no base case to give it those awful stats, thought this one might have those base cases and I was right xD

Looks like what, each stat above 2k and 3k?

Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Havoc

jfc this weapon.

So...is Str tied to fire, Def to wind, and Spe to ice?

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Wuf

Str is tied to atk, def is tied to def, and spd is tied to healing. I think. I think that's what Andrew said anyway, lemme double check

Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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I had to break it down into sections, our testing still isn't complete but this might help some

This weapon is uniquely scaled. Strength stats estabilsh attack icons, defense stats establish blocked icons and speed stats establish healing:

That happened <2000 Strength, Defense, Speed: Attack: 1 Fire Defense: 1 Ice Other: Heals 1%

Baseline 2000-2999 Strength, Defense, Speed: Attack: 30-34 Fire Defense: 15 Ice Other: Heals 6%

Max 3000+ Strength, Defense and Speed: Attack: 12-14 Ice, 12-14 Fire 12-14 Wind (36-42 icons) Defense: 9-12 Ice, 9-12 Fire, 9-12 Wind (27-36 icons) Other: Heals 9% (caps at 888HP) .... Individually, they break down like this:

Strength That happened <2000 Strength: Attack: 1 Fire

Baseline 2000-2999 Strength: Attack: 30-34 Fire

Max 3000+ Strength: Attack: 25-30 Fire, 5 Wind, 5 Ice (35-40 icons) .... Defense That happened <2000 Defense: Defense: 1 Ice

Baseline 2000-2999 Defense: Defense: 15 Ice

Max 3000+ Defense: Defense: 18 Ice, 7 wind (25 icons) .... Speed That happened <2000 Speed: Other: Heals 1%

Baseline 2000-2999 Speed: Other: Heals 6%

Max 3000+ Speed: Other: Heals 7% No one who's tested it has over 3k speed without also having over 3k strength and defense ....

Singles and Doubles

Single 2000+ 2000-2999 Strength (<2000 Defense and Speed): Attack: 30-34 Fire Defense: 1 Ice Other: Heals 1%

Single 3000+ 3000 Strength (2000-2999 Defense and Speed): Attack: 25-30 Fire, 5 Wind, 5 Ice (35-40 icons) Defense: 15 Ice Other: Heals 6%

Single 3000+ 3000 Speed (2000-2999 Strength and Defense): Attack: 30-34 Fire Defense: 15 Ice Other: Heals 7%

Double 3000+ 3000+ Strength and Defense (2000-2999 Speed): Attack: 25-30 Fire, 5 Wind, 5 Ice (35-40 icons) Defense: 18 Ice, 7 Wind (25 icons) Other: Heals 6%


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Wuf

we may need to ask a ba about the third part of healing, finding a speed dominant pet will be a challenge.

Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Lady Aflame

I can't think of anyone who would have more Speed then Str/Def - I thought about trying to get Spirit there but eeeeeeeee.. boosting 340 speed just doesn't sound like a good time if ya ask me.

We've put a lot into figuring out the triple effect, I hope Jason will take it from here and tell us the missing piece.

- I cant pin down the missing Speed/Heal being over 3k while Str and Def are under 3k percentage and I really need to know if 2999 or 3000 is the max end of the scale

Mind helping us out here?

It's 7%, right? I couldnt take the suspense any longer and boosted until I was able to test for myself xD


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Aros

Gonna wait to see if Jason shed some light. Else, I can leech Benz of some stats if needed xD


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Sep 6, 2015 10 years ago
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You're a better man then I, Riptide, if I were a man that is. Just the thought of leeching stats makes me want to run out of the house screaming like a schoolgirl. Im thinking I should boost Spirit's strength to the 2999 mark and see what happens. Or defense. Either one would show us what a single max stat does with one of them. I could boost speed but ew. Not a fan of that idea at all.

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I couldnt take it any more y'all, I had to know.. so I boosted Spirits strength to 2999 which made no difference then to 3000.

Spirit: Strength: 3000 Defense: 2660 Speed: 2648

Attack: 25-30 Fire, 5 Wind, 5 Ice (35-40 icons) Defense: 15 Ice Other: Heals 6%

Our theory is solid so far, may as well finish the job. After all how long can it take to rack up another 400k exp? xD A LONG ASS TIME, that's how long! Hours of battling and trading down tokens but I got her speed to 3000

Then I actually used a leech. Which will never happen again!

Spirit: Strength: 2998 Defense: 2661 Speed: 3000

Single 3000+ 3000 Speed (2000-2999 Strength and Defense): Attack: 30-34 Fire Defense: 15 Ice Other: Heals 7%

Thanks for the help y'all, figuring this one out was fun! Or I'm delirious, one of the two XD


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Sep 6, 2015 10 years ago
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Holy moly, you are incredibly insane and badass. I don't know if fun is the word I'd use, but hell, this breakdown is crazy.

you monster. xD

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Sep 6, 2015 10 years ago
Riptide
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Who's the better person now?! You're awesome. Yay for confirmation xD


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Sep 6, 2015 10 years ago
L0stS0ul
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That's definately the most confusing weapon I ever tested O.o


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Sep 7, 2015 10 years ago
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Pachirisu

has a low chance to freeze. I tested it against mechalag for 3 battles, and the first time it happened once in 20 turns, the second time it was 1 in 29 turns, and the 3rd time it was 3 in 24 turns.

have broken icons in their blessings (heal icon I think), and and don't have the full attack stats.

Sep 8, 2015 10 years ago
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Lady Aflame

The heal icon has been broken from the beginning lol I'll fix the rest of those right away and thank you


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Sep 13, 2015 10 years ago
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has stealing chance. i don't track down the percentage but it is quite good chance.

but i never get the 30hp effect that listed in the effect column. only the normal 40hp healing.

Sep 14, 2015 10 years ago
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Havoc

Mirroring Shield of Brilliance and Chancellors War Shield have incorrect blocking stats. They should be full-blockers still. Unless Jason changed it.

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List of full blockers that shall remain full blockers:</p>
<ul>
<li>Rainbow Vortex</li>
<li>Chancellors War Shield</li>
<li>Mirroring Shield of Brilliance</li>
<li>Shinwas Temple Shard</li>
<li>Amulet of Neutrality</li>
<li>Cherry Blossom Scythe</li>
<li>Negating Pylonic

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Sep 15, 2015 10 years ago
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Thanks for that y'all =) I'll get them adjusted right away.

Gholgolaz is there any blessing/curse with the Wand? And would you classify the stealing as a medium chance or high chance? I've listed it as medium for now, please let me know what you think.

Metroid I've got those, I'll test 'em out quick, I don't know why I didn't notice that.


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Sep 15, 2015 10 years ago
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I happened to be checking them out today in the database, cause I couldn't recall if they were CS weapons. They've been retired for so long. (btw you can call me Fenix; it's two letters shorter then xD)

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Sep 15, 2015 10 years ago
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Lady Aflame

I'll never remember but ok Fenix x)

You're right, both are full blockers at top tier:

Chancellors War Shield

all Phy all Dark

50 Heal

Mirroring Shield of Brilliance

all Phy all Lightning

50 Heal


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Sep 15, 2015 10 years ago
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haven't experience any blessing/curse with the reborn wand. as for stealing chance, i think low is more accurate. the day i tested is probably my lucky day. i stole all but one weapon against Canaak, while other opponents i stole 1 to 3 weapon that day. haven't got that lucky the day after. the chance to steal probably similar to the chance to freeze of the freezewand.

Sep 15, 2015 10 years ago
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Lady Aflame

got it listed correctly, thanks for your help =)


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