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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Just an observation, Boggs and Spirit both have eventually trained attack and defense. Whereas Holt isn't equally trained.


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Is there anything special I'm looking out for, eg. blessings? Or I'm only looking at the attack/def/heal?

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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- what if it has nothing to do with speed? What if its str based?

Spirit and Boggs are "getting better at manipulating ice", Holt has "harnessed the element of ice" and our top pets have "mastered all three of the trident's elements"

No blessings or curses, just straight attack, defense and heal doll, nothing fancy with this one.

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Masters:

Wuf: Level: 2,111 Strength: 5,173 Defense: 5,181 Speed: 3,234 Health: 6,553 Intelligence: 2,550

Benz: Level: 2,402 Strength: 3,021 Defense: 3,034 Speed: 3,032 Health: 3,214 Intelligence: 2,160

Aros: Level: 5,184 Strength: 8,000 Defense: 6,000 Speed: 8,500 Health: 12,500 Intelligence: 7,000

Roark Level: 5,200 Strength: 13,000 Defense: 7,500 Speed: 3,500 Health: 11,000 Intelligence: 6,000

Lady Aflame Level: 2,433 Strength: 6,041 Defense: 5,573 Speed: 5,422 Health: 7,469 Intelligence: 2,732

Vallenorix (Val) Level: 2,910 Strength: 7,247 Defense: 7,254 Speed: 7,294 Health: 9,579 Intelligence: 3,468

Harnessed ice

Holt Level: 41 Strength: 3013 Defense: 3035 Speed: 2986 Health: 3003 Intelligence: 776

Getting better

Tempestuous Spirit: Level: 1064 Strength: 2660 Defense: 2660 Speed: 2646 Health: 2818 Intelligence: 1328

Boggs: Level: 833 Strength: 2065 Defense: 2065 Speed: 2067 Health: 2507

... Looking at strictly HP won't work, Benz mastered it and has 3214HP. Intel plays no part in it. I would go with str but Benz is at 3k and so is Holt who's not in the Master catagory while Benz is.


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Level: 2337 Health: 6506 / 6506 Strength: 8147 Defense: 5200 Speed: 2540 Intelligence: 2209

Extendable Elemental Trident (unmodded) vs Flamagia (I did more than 3 tuns obv, but was lazy to screencap them all)

Overall: ATT: 25-30 Fire , 5 Wind, 5 Ice DEF: 18 Ice, 7 Wind 6 H

let me know if I should be seeing anything else? Or I'll get a ribboned box back at ya :)

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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When you use the trident, does it say you've "harnessed the element of ice" Sah? It should.


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Blue flames, ice crystals, and a strong breeze emanate from the three prongs of your trident.

You have harnessed the element of ice!

Yup!

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Hmm.. I think I see the trend. Tell me what y'all think.

Mastered - Str, Def, Speed above 3k.

Harnesses - Str and Def above 3k, Speed below.

Getting better - Str, Def, Speed below 3k

Test Results Masters:

Wuf: Level: 2,111 Strength: 5,173 Defense: 5,181 Speed: 3,234 Health: 6,553 Intelligence: 2,550

Benz: Level: 2,402 Strength: 3,021 Defense: 3,034 Speed: 3,032 Health: 3,214 Intelligence: 2,160

Aros: Level: 5,184 Strength: 8,000 Defense: 6,000 Speed: 8,500 Health: 12,500 Intelligence: 7,000

Roark Level: 5,200 Strength: 13,000 Defense: 7,500 Speed: 3,500 Health: 11,000 Intelligence: 6,000

Lady Aflame Level: 2,433 Strength: 6,041 Defense: 5,573 Speed: 5,422 Health: 7,469 Intelligence: 2,732

Involution Level: 1571 Strength: 4531 Defense: 3926 Speed: 3912 Health: 7662 Intelligence: 1762

Vallenorix (Val) Level: 2,910 Strength: 7,247 Defense: 7,254 Speed: 7,294 Health: 9,579 Intelligence: 3,468

Harnessed ice

Holt Level: 41 Strength: 3013 Defense: 3035 Speed: 2986 Health: 3003 Intelligence: 776

rawrsaur (rawr) Level: 2337 Strength: 8147 Defense: 5200 Speed: 2540 Health: 6506 Intelligence: 2209

Getting better

Tempestuous Spirit: Level: 1064 Strength: 2660 Defense: 2660 Speed: 2646 Health: 2818 Intelligence: 1328

Boggs: Level: 833 Strength: 2065 Defense: 2065 Speed: 2067 Health: 2507

Hey you're better at this than I am! What do you see? cara do you have any pets that could test my theory?


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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It could be possible it's just

Mastered - all three stats above 3k Harness - 1-2 stats above 3k Getting better - all three stats below 3k?

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Thats what I see, I cant think of any T11 pet who's below 2k stats on all three, 1 or 2 maybe but not all 3. Maybe but.. no one I can think of.


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Looks like that may be the case.

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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My speed is 1700, but if you need T11 I am not there yet.

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Its a T11 weapon, bro but I think we've figured it out. Need a few more tests to double/triple check if possible but yeah, I think we cracked this nut

Extendable Elemental Trident


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Ok, in another week I could help :-P But right now I am still 140 something away, sorry.

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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I am guessing that to harness a specific element depends on which stat is below 3K. I would be interested in people testing out one with only one stat above 3K.

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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I would love to see that too. I thought about boosting speed over 3k but I'm 340 away in all 3 stats. In all honesty can't think of anyone who would have speed/def over 3k and str under or speed over and str/def under. [preview=Extendable Elemental Trident] The wearable is a triple header so a triple stat scale is completely feasible if ya ask me, lol!


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Shadealuda: Level: 1852 Health: 7508 / 7508 Strength: 5028 Defense: 4017 Speed: 3288 Intelligence: 1638

I'm getting the following stats for the trident: Attack: 12-14 ice, 12-14 wind, 12-14 fire Defense: 9-12 ice, 9-12 wind, 9-12 fire 9% heal No freezes, blessings or curses.

It said I'd mastered it, but I'm getting very different results than

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The wearable is a triple header so a triple stat scale is completely feasible if ya ask me, lol!

Yes, since the weapon represents three elements, I think it might be possible that each gives different stats: When your health is highest, it heals more (for me it heals 9% while for it's 6%. Higher strength gives more attack icons (for me 10-12 of each, for it's much more fire. Probably a pet having defense as highest stat will have a different icon distribution as well. And you probably need to be past some sort of threshold to become a master in any of the three parts that make up the stats. That treshold might be 3k?


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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@ laurie

I have missed a bunch of the convo so sorry if im repeating.

But the

Elemtnal Trident @ 0 spd, 2.3k STR, 0.9k DEF

30-33 fire 1 ice block 1% heal

"You are getting better at manipulating fire"

99% sure this is the weakest it can go unless someone has even lower STR at t11 to test it out.

EDIT:

i take it back. THIS is the lowest. idk how it can go any lower.

such useful. much stats.

NO text at all about "getting better" etc etc.

pet stats, 1.9k STR, 1.9k DEF, 1.7k SPD, 2.4k HP

basically it checks str for attack, def for defence, speed for heal. anything <2k gives it the lowest stats.

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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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Sweet! Thank you! was right then, each stat has an "assignment". That's why Riptide and I had the same heal, both of us had under 3k speed. I had no idea how to find someone with a T11 pet that could test those parameters, thanks for that!

You "mastered" str, def and speed. Sah "harnessed" str and def (over 3k), speed was under 3k so you would have higher results. I'm positive the top is 3k. And with what Andrew's figured out, I see now how it falls into place.

Now how to write it up in weapon notes =/

edits remember when I said Im sure the trident's like the skull staff and wouldn't have 1 attack, 1 def, 1 heal like it's hover shows? points up at Andrews post ^ I was wrong.


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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What I don't understand is: How can a pet with 2.3k strength have the 30-22 icon fire attack unlocked, and my pet with 5k strength not. I think there's some other scaling besides this 3k treshold that makes you master stuff.


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Sep 5, 2015 10 years ago
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I don't think there is. I think the three stats are assigned to specific icons like Andrews results show.

As for the attack icons 30-34 fire is the "base line" (unless you manage to be under 2k which still has me thinking "That happened").

The maximum icons are set for all three stats being over 3k. You'll get 12-14 fire, ice and wind, no matter how much higher your strength is as long as your speed and defense are also above the 3k threshold.

The total attack is 36-42 for max, spread across 3 icons instead of 30-34 fire. You'll have a much higher defense and heal also.


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