Not sure if late response or not but here's the stat for the ice flail based on results I saw:

Sierrac Basal Ice Flail

Default: 18-25 ice, 7 wind Blocks 6-7 ice, 6-7 wind heal 75

2000+ speed 28-35 ice, 8 wind blocks 20 ice, 20 wind heal 150

3000+ speed 28-36 ice, 6 wind blocks 25 ice, 25 wind heal 285

4000+ speed 28-37 ice, 4 wind blocks 30 ice, 30 wind heal 6%

5000+ speed 28-38 ice, 2 wind blocks 35 ice, 35 wind heal 7%

max heal 600

Give me a holler if you guys need help testing anything. =)

Thats awesome, thank you so much! I appreciate it! Y'all don't have any info on the Extendable Elemental Trident by any chance? I dont know if theres stats on it or not.

*psst , you've got someone else willing to help test weapons once yall get things organized ^^

Yeah, thats why I took it out, some of the healers have such a minumal amount of heal (as in 5hp) and take the healer slot, its crazy. I took it off things like the OStaff, MStaff, things that if you've got one, you know it's not a healer.

y'all were a step ahead of me with the gloves lol!

I'm working backwards, got the scaling weapons and then tier 12, 11, 10, 9 and I was just about to start on 8 before I give it up for the night.

kbbob, how's this for starting out?

Scaling Weapons

"Tier is a required word to list this as a scalable weapon" xD haha.

blessed trident has a blessing that is missing, don't know exactly what it is off the top of my head, Merana's Mantle maybe? similar to the normal trident blessing, idk if it has steal/freeze protection or what the heal is, and I think it's like 275 of those icon block or something random that isn't all. minor detail though.

That looks very very good, and I like it. very well organized and looks good.

edit: it also has a curse right? something maelstrom maybe? I forget, haven't used my trident in awhile

Wait wait wait.. @ riptide @ kbbob is that Ice Flail a speed based healer with a cap!? Seriously!?

kbbob - I couldnt figure out why I couldnt get them added to the scale search until I asked and the code requires the word Tier. I fought with that section for hours trying to figure it out on my own. Man I hate typing HTML.

Looks like I didn't double check my notes on the trident, thanks for letting me know ^^

One last ping for tonight, I promise - do you know if that's a 1 round blessing? Seems like it should be and pretty rare too with that kind of defense.

most attacking weapons have a healing cap, it's usually 9999*%heal though.

I get that, I found that funny though. I kinda like html, though I have a cs degree so... I better like it.

No problem, sorry I don't know the exact stats of those off the top of my head.

you're doing a good job so far though :)

uhhh iirc the blessed trident blessing is 3 rounds? maybe two. it's definitely not one... I am thinking 3. it comes in handy against imp forj and I know it lasted longer than one.

[edit] Meranas Mantle (Blessing) defense: 175 earth/magma/water 10 heal

Total Damage: 0

Total Healing: 10

lasted three turns.

edit2: Maelstrom of the Deep Sea (Curse)

8 dark

8 water

also 3 turns I believe.

ps: I don't mind being pinged so ping away.

Ive got them recorded, I know I entered the curse - blessing at the bottom of the weapon notes but I must not have c/p the entire code.

I cant stand html, in the notes box it's a wall of text, cs seems so much cleaner from what I've read. But I'm self taught and type everything out by hand

Wait, are you guys talking about the same trident? Because I know for sure that Meranas Mantle blessing and the curse that lasts one round are on the Blessed Trident on the Banished One. Does the Extendable Elemental Trident also have them? If it does, I should take it out of my wardrobe O.o

Oh wait, you were not talking about the extendable trident, right? Ok, phew.

well html provides structure, you can only do so much with it. it really is meant to work along side css especially with the advancement in css. you aren't even supposed to use

For the Extendable Trident, the posts in the BC for it's stats are starting around ">here Not a lot of testing was done I think. I found the following:

Wow, its been ages since I've pulled off a double post!

Sierrac Basal Ice Flail

Not bad for a Tier 8 but a 600 point cap on healing? Im not sure I like that idea.

This is a section of the weapon notes box, if I have time I'll go tier by tier but in a rush I jam it all into a paragraph Tier 1 <u>(Default)</u><br />Attack: 1-2 Physical, 1-2 Dark, 2 Earth, 2 Light (6-8 icons)<br />Defense: 2 Earth<br />Other: Heals 4-6hp<br /><br />Tier 2<br />Attack: 2 Physical, 2 Dark, 2-3 Earth, 2-3 Light (8-10 icons)<br />Defense: 3 Earth<br />Other: Heals 7-11 hp<br /><br />Tier 3<br />Attack: 3 Physical, 3 Dark, 3 Earth, 3 Light

Im not fast at it but I usually get it right in the end, lol

Thanks for showing us that doll, if Val mastered all three elements then it's another tier/stat based weapon. Im burnt out on coding for the night but I think I'll have to dig that one out and see what my trio can do with it.

Thanks for all the help today y'all, I really appreciate it! I'll be dragging ya back here tomorrow!

you need 8571 hp to get 600 heal with the t8 weapon, it's no big deal really (assuming you have that much speed, it probably has the same heal cap on every tier of the scaling except for the fixed heals)

the html doesn't look so bad, just a few bold tags and underline tags, the rest is just tedious stats :P

Usually it's a walk in the park but the line breaks were making me crazy for awhile there LOL!

I hadnt thought of it that way, a tier 8 with that kind of HP would be a little nutz.

weapons with 10% heals cap at 999 so it's not a big difference really. Skull staff also caps at that, I wish they would change it so the 12% heal capped at 1199 because at 9998 hp you heal more than you do at 10k hp exactly.

: That's because 's freaking awesome...

I agree!

Hey'all, hope you don't mind the ping.

Anyone got a tier 8 or above pet with some time on your hands? The flail needs more testing, the base ice attack for 2000+ speed and above is 28 but it varies from there, and so does wind. These are the total attack icons according to Riptides tests:

<1500 speed: 18-25 ice, 7 wind (25-32) default 2000+ speed: 28-35 ice, 8 wind (34-43) 3000+ speed: 28-36 ice, 6 wind (36-42) 4000+ speed: 28-37 ice, 4 wind (32-41) 5000+ speed: 28-38 ice, 2 wind (30-40)

The defense is solid but the attacks either have more variables or the attack icon total drops as the heal increases.

Spirit, Involution and the Lady will be joining in the test as soon as I make sure the other scale weapons notes are consistent (I left out the total icons on a few of them last night)

I don't have that kind of speed, but on the subject of testing, do the things on this list actually need testing?

just a quick fix of what you have:

<1999 speed: 18-25 ice, 7 wind (25-32) default 2000+ speed: 28-35 ice, 8 wind (36-43) 3000+ speed: 28-36 ice, 6 wind (34-42) 4000+ speed: 28-37 ice, 4 wind (32-41) 5000+ speed: 28-38 ice, 2 wind (30-40)

:P

My tier 9 pet with 1385 speed is getting: 18-25 ice damage 7 wind damage 6-7 ice defense 6-7 water defense 75 healing

It froze twice in I dunno how many turns, 15 or so?

My tier 12 with 3284 speed is getting: 28-36 ice damage 6 wind damage 25 ice defense 25 water defense 285 heals Froze once in the turns it took to take mechalag down twice using only this weapon. I'm definitely getting 36 ice damage, got it three times now.

I have a pet which is almost tier 8, and I could probably push it to tier 8 using exp. Do you need me to do that? They're being trained equally, so it would be a tier 8 pet with speed in the <1500 bracket.

Indeed it's kind of weird that the total icons are going down O.o

Gah! Thanks , I mixed up the c/p - it's right now. I havent had a chance to play with it yet, but Im betting its a 1 icon drop as the heal increases

@ Sorcerer The dreaded not tested because they're weapons but anyone who would risk that kind of sP on something that could be single use category. I put "Not Tested" in the item notes so anyone looking at them weapon wise knows we don't know for sure if they're infinite or if they'll vanish which has happened several times.

The only thing I can think of is more healing = less damage. I've never seen a weapon drop in icons as the scale increased.

Great to know its got a low chance to freeze, thats spectacular! Any idea how many rounds it took for your T12?

I don't want anyone to boost for testing, boosting is expensive but if you want to hit tier 8, please do! The more results the better.

edits if you're in the mood to test, finding a bit more about the freeze ratio for default stats would be great but only if yall have the time