Okay I was just checking to make sure :)

You can't put them in your armory, and if you can it is a glitch. They are one use items so they can't be modded. Equipping them moves them into the potions spot of your battle page thing.

if you'd like me to test the extendable trident and post the stats, lemme know.

Testing the trident would be awesome!

Speed: 3234

12-14 ice/wind/fire offense 9-12 ice/wind/fire defense 9% heal

Done and done (pretty much, lol!)

LOL!! I think that's what comes up in battle, not positive - it's been a long time since I've tested any of those. I know something about it cracked me up at the time xD

Freezewand of Doom - I'll have to find one to test, for now I've removed any curse/blessing.

Hmm.. Luminaire Blade has no base stats, this is one for a BA. () Also Probed Moonrock still shows it's a tier 1 and it's no longer a weapon - just an FYI.

Another question - Mysterious Pie sells at the Weapons Warehouse? Perhaps I have the restock location wrong? Magical Bone restocks at Defend and Conquer and also isn't a weapon, does that matter?

The rest of the list have been updated or removed from the weapon list, Sorcerer thank you SO MUCH for all the time you're putting into helping me get things right.

Thanks for that, I'll try a bit with speed 2645 and speed 5421, see what happens tomorrow. Maybe we can pin down the scale.

I am thinking there's maybe just two tiers, one below (3k maybe?) and one above. but yeah more testing is needed with different speeds, the 2.6k pet should help.

Mysterious Pie Rarity: Super Rare (98) Description: Great for throwing. Official Price: 456 Price Today: 349,873 Overall Price: 354,894 Tier: 0

says tier 0, so it may really restock at the weapons warehouse.

I think the trident may have 3 scaling tiers - hopefully we'll get a few more opinions.

fire 30-34 def 15 ice heal 6% ... The Lady: 5421 - You have mastered all three of the trident's elements! - (results same as 3234 and 3912 speed)

12-14 ice, fire and wind (36-42 icons) Def: 9-12 ice, fire and wind 9% heal ... Cara's results: (I did not see any 8's blocked, only 9-12)

I remember way back they were cleaning out the massive amount of tiny icon weapons, maybe the pie and magical bone are left overs, like the iron boot ect - they were weapons once, just not now xD

yeah that would make sense, unless the lowest tier is the stats that it shows, 1 fire attack, 1 ice defense, 1% heal. that would be unfortunate. hm it is probably one of the weapons that they deweaponized. like those underpants I cannot remember the name of, but they reweaponized those.

The effects concerns blessings and curses, right? The Possessed Bow lists a 100 dark defense effect for 1 turn. I think it's 100 dark attack. It always goes together with the freeze.

Played with Extendable Elemental Trident too. Aros, Roark and Benz got same stats as Wuf and The Lady (above 3k speed). Heal caps at 888.

Holt (2986 speed) 25-30 fire, 5 wind, 5 ice defend 18 ice, 7 wind heal 6

If I could just get two more wins against the damn three-headed dragon, I'd be able to test out the trident and report my results too. xD

Hmm. Looks like by not designating the effects as "Blessing" or "Curse", blessing is chosen by default. I never would have spotted that, thanks! I wasn't sure how to word it when I put the paring between it's curse and freeze in weapon notes. How's this look? P-Bow

Yeah it would LOL! I'm sure it wont be tho, the Tainted Keeper Skull Staff hover shows 1phy attack - could be it's how they set up scaled weapons now or something ?

Now about those stats. kbbob, L0stS0ul can you test the trident too? - when it comes to scaling speed I think it's safe to assume the trident would follow suit making the top tier 3k and above seeing several of us got the same results:

3000+ Speed Attack: 12-14 Ice, 12-14 Fire 12-14 Wind (36-42 icons) Defense: 9-12 Ice, 9-12 Fire, 9-12 Wind Other: Heals 9% (caps at 888HP)

I'm going to test it more in case thats suppose to be 8-12, I've never known Cara to be wrong with stats but they may have bumped it up to 9 after she was done checking it out. From there "Houston we have a problem." We've got a difference forming already which can only be one of three things.

There's no way they would break it down into the 100s for scaling so either something changed between Holt's testing and Spirits or I didn't put it thru enough paces or the trident's not based on speed.

Mid-range You are getting better at manipulating ice!

Spirit: (2645 Speed) Attack: 30-34 fire Defense: 15 ice Other: heal 6%

Holt (2986 speed) Attack: 25-30 fire, 5 wind, 5 ice (35-40 icons) Defense: 18 ice, 7 wind Other: heal 6

Yeaaaah.. we've got the same heal % and that's it. I'm going to test it some more, Riptide would yall mind kicking a few more tests around with Holt? Sah if you're able to, would you mind doing a few tests with the Extendable Elemental Trident for us? Your battler is in the 2500+ range, we need ya!

I don't suppose Bad Ass is T11? I dont know the exact stat count for tiers.

Adam have yall hit T11? I know you're close - whats your speed? (and will Lia let ya test a trident for awhile or is she being a busy little toddler today)

Can anyone seeing this think of anyone else who's got a T11 and above pet who's speed stats are lower then 2k? (Other then Andrew, I already pinged him about it xD) .. You can do it!! I - we need more testers so the results make sense!

Perfect!

I have to leave soon, having a dinner for my mums birthday. I'll test the trident when I get back. Poke me if I forget. I only got one pet capable of using it though, so I can't really give you a lot of data :/

Bad Ass made it to T12 but I have a little baby T11 I can run some tests with Boggs T11 Level: 833 Health: 2507 / 2507 Strength: 2065 Defense: 2065 Speed: 2067

Used unmoded during BQ's Attack: 30-34 fire Defense: 15 ice Other: heal 6%

The more the better doll! I'm only focusing on testing with Spirit after another 20 rounds or so with the Lady. Looking at the difference between Riptide's results and mine has me convinced I didnt test it enough.

Excellent! Right on the 2k mark!

Nope still t10

Damn. I thought if anyone would have their speed between 1k and 2k it would be you.

Hey laurs, I don't have one of those thingers, and I've never 'tested' an item before, so I'm not too sure what I should be doing?

I don't really want to give wrong info if I'm doing something wrong!

Thank you~ I think the problem is El's speed and defense stats being too low compared to the other two. Once I bump those up higher, it might help make a difference in getting to 5 wins for now.

Tested a few more times, nothing has changed. I'm getting:

Attack: 25-30 fire, 5 wind, 5 ice (35-40 icons) Defense: 18 ice, 7 wind Other: heal 6

Holt's stats Level: 41 Health: 3003 / 3003 Strength: 3013 Defense: 3035 Speed: 2986 Intelligence: 776

So I guess there is more to it than just speed.

- Y'all are welcome to borrow mine Sah ❤ All you need to do is pick an opponent and write down your attack def and heal like this:

Attack: 33 31 34 30 32 Defense: 15 ice Other: heal 6%

No need to make note of how many times yall get 30, 31, 32, whatever - and after several battles/rounds let us know what you came up with. The only other thing is no mods xD

I was afraid of that. I just battled meatslab the resting 70 rounds or more using only the trident and mana surge if I was in trouble and got the same results every round.

Attack: 30-34 fire Defense: 15 ice Other: heal 6%

Tempestuous Spirit:

Level: 1064 Health: 2818 / 2818 Strength: 2660 Defense: 2660 Speed: 2646 Intelligence: 1328 ...