I just did another Mechalag battle, it lasted 19 turns and the weapon froze on the last turn. The other two fights were probably a bit shorter because of the increasing stats after each win. But to me it seemed like my tier 9 was more successful in freezing than my tier 12. Let's assume I had at least 15 turns in each fight for my tier 12, that is 2 freezes in 45 turns. My tier 9 definitely had 3 freezes in 20 turns. Maybe I'm just unlucky wth my tier 12 or something.

Freeze test the flail? I'd do it if someone lent me one.

What about cheap "not tested" items like Graveyard Shortsword? That doesn't seem likely to disappear… I could go through the cheaper not tested items just to shorten the list if things like that do need to be double checked.

I'll happily lend yall mine, just gotta dig it out, wont take but a minute! As for cheap weapons on that list, I'll gladly get them for ya if you want to test them after checking out the Flail!

I dunno , it could just be a low chance for all scales. Our T12 pets tend to walk over opponents a lot quicker so the battle might not have lasted as long.

I can test the flail on Armond with his 1700 speed if you still need the low en tested.

You know it, Adam, the more tests, the more accurate the results

Alright, if you have one I can use to test I will be glad to.

I have a 0 spd t11 pet lol. so i can usually test the bottom line if a weapon is scaled by speed.

Riptide's default stats is what i saw. Did not notice freeze (~50 turns), more than likely speed dependent as well.

0 Speed? Awesome! Surprising but thats excellent for speed related scale weapons.

I bet its stat based too, at lease in part. I'll make note of that and put it under "Other" in weapon notes. Thanks!

massive list of freeze results

58 freezes in 1000 hits

4 by 100

1 at 1 2 at 13 3 at 49 4 at 50 5 at 72 6 at 73 7 at 75

1 at 57 2 at 64 3 at 68 4 at 89 5 at 91

1 at 8 2 at 9 3 at 35 4 at 42 5 at 84

1 at 4 2 at 30 3 at 32 4 at 48 5 at 52 6 at 53 7 at 55 8 at 57 9 at 61 10 at 70 11 at 73 12 at 91

1 at 15 2 at 32 3 at 71 4 at 81 5 at 93 6 at 100

1 at 28 2 at 47 3 at 49 4 at 88 5 at 90

1 at 3 2 at 11 3 at 18 4 at 37 5 at 79

1 at 6 2 at 30 3 at 33 4 at 64

1 at 47 2 at 59 3 at 63 4 at 68 5 at 70

Wow, thats a LOT of battles, thank you for that!

I've listed it as very low freeze rate, keeping in mind thats with <1500 Speed. I'll give it a go tonight if I have time, see if it's that low with the Lady who's 5k+ to see if it's low all the way around or speed based too.

thanks for that! I'll get those done first thing tomorrow. Im not sure why those are listing the wrong stats but I'll see if manually plugging them in fixes things.

: I'm guessing that a lot of info for weapon combos is wrong or missing. SubetaLodge doesn't have the combo attacks of any of the Azathoth set, and it lists the Tentacle as OPB (it's infinite) and doesn't mention the negative heal. I think even the Weapon Guide and Echo_818's old Tier guides aren't quite right—both list the Gauntlets as 30 icons, but IIRC I've seen them vary. I can't test them right now, but ping me to remind me and I'll have a look later this week.

EDIT: BTW, the official price of the Gate Keeper Collar of Slavery is listed as 185,184 Hard Tokens. I know that's ripped from the site—I assume it's from wherever it stocked before it was retired—but it is 60.

Explaning combos is going to be the tough part. I finished scale weapons, several tiers and after testing it added the sentinel combo info to the fused legendaries - next up are the other combos. The Red Rreign set confused me so much last time I tried testing it I gave up - this time I'm determined to get things right and will take all the help I can get!

Alright, I believe you told me everything about the Slaglord Gauntlets' stats, but alas, I cannot find nor remember what the ranges were for the damage, block and curses/blessing activation. Shed some light on the whole custom code behind it?

So the Sierrac's weapon stats were changed? Cause I swore it used to do 5% heal when equipped to Elfric, who has 3k in speed. xD

And kind of for anyone out there reading this, anybody know if the Martenez Briefcase weapon has any mod slots?

freeze rates for daemons poisonous quills, frostbite amulet and rapier of error would be very much appreciated, and freeze rates for various freeze scrolls...

is the chance to freeze affected by stats at all?

Involution is T12 with Speed: 3912 - I'll give it a shot.

Using only the Sierrac Basal Ice Flail: Heals: 285 every time

I havent seen around for awhile but I know she won a briefcase, I'll send her a comment asking if she still has it and about the mods.

Thanks Jason, appreciate that! So far the only one Ive run into is the freeze rate with the Flail. I thought might be based on scale also but after a few tests with the Lady Im beginning to think its low for everyone. Could you let me know about that when y'all have time?

Thanks~ x3