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December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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You really can't remove the "lashes" on the feli. All felis have that. : That's like taking off its horns or wings.

Can I just say: Dragon revamp

If it can happen there, there is no reason the eyebrows can't be changed or removed here.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

If a person recognizes a classic "sexy pose," this does not make them a pervert/mean they need to get their head out of the gutter. It also does not mean that they are turned on by this drawing.
Cats do lie like that, but they don't tuck the one foot so snugly behind the ankle. I think that's what makes the pose look more human... that, and the fact that the feli seems to be resting on its elbow, when it should be putting more weight on the whole chest area, like a real cat would do.
The feli is obviously a cat. The name alone is a dead giveaway. Besides, I don't care whether a subetapet is based on a real-life species or completely made up -- the anatomy should look like it works, and the pose shouldn't be awkward (unless there's a really good reason for it, like if the pet is mutated or something).

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I personally think the eye lashes? shadows? should be kept as is. =/ Like what Luxe said, the Feli doesn't look like a Feli without them.

Also, I may be repeating myself a little, but... I'm not too fond of the err... chest area of this current revamp. I think if it had a similar chest puff, like the Dark Matter version has, I think it would look perfect.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

You really can't remove the "lashes" on the feli. All felis have that. : That's like taking off its horns or wings.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

For the pose thing, cats lay like that ALL the time, so it is not sexual at all. But the thing that bugs me is the head. It seems a bit....lopsided in proportion to the body to me....or maybe it's just the alignment of the facial features....it all seems a bit too far to the left. But leave it to someone who can't draw quads worth crap to judge in that aspect In all reality I liked the last proposed revamp better, but I am the one who prefers the cartoony look of it to anything, hence the thinker lines and such. But hmmm, as if my opinion matters anyways. It is lovely artwork, don't get me wrong there.....just not the type of style that appeals to me as much as it does other people :

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I reject it with all the shiny power that is within me!!! (Sadly, I'm always in the minority...)

Agreed: Fur-boobs. Sorry, can't live with that. >.<

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's way better then the current Feli, but this version still leaves a bit to be desired. Digi's edit of it I really like; it's interesting how a few little changes can change something from "good" to "great."

If this revamp goes through as-is I'll still be very happy about it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's a bit disturbing I wasn't the only one who noticed the pose...hm... :/ Anyway, it's really cute! So innocent and content looking. Finally, that wait is over!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

At least our poor Felis don't have to starve anymore due to tiny stomachs. That's a good thing.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Kinda seductive o_o;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

She looks a bit sultry.

All you need to do is thicken the tail and shorten the boob ruff hehe

I'd rather the cute face was kept similar to the old one, I'll miss Gratify if she changes

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like digi's edits. I had to animate the two pictures together to really see the changes, and it makes it look a lot better.

Digi's changes and Jag's art

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It strikes me as VERY feminine... to the point where I worry about potential male feli. XD Also, the fluffy part on the chest reminds me of the potential aerie revamp AND the recent Lain, and thus is a little too generic for my liking.
Besides that, it's a wonderful revamp. B)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Let me first say that I think the new revamp is great and that I favor it over the other revamp and original. The shading is very nice, I love the front legs (not so much the shoulders), and the front paws are adorable. The use of the orange and purple together is well done and the cream on the chest and paws compliments both. I can see where the feminine comments come from, but I really don't see it as being sexual. Essentially, it's a cat and cats are just like that. I'm sure my complaints have been already stated, but I figured I'd give my two cents.

BUT, I really don't like the neck. Cats have thick necks that are about the width of their faces and for all we can see, the Feli might, but it doesn't look this way. I know that the Feli is not a cat, but for the size of it's head, it would need bigger shoulders and a thicker neck. With the addition of this bulk, the Feli would look less "feminine" and more neutral.

My other "big" complaint is with the back legs. Unlike the Glacier Tigrean, who's legs are less forward, the Feli almost looks as if it's trying to make it's "knees" touch, which is unnatural for a cat and makes me think it may need a potty break.

Finally, my little complaints are with the tail and eyes. Cats may have large eyes, but these look rather exaggerated and the eyebrows are a little much. Coupled with the white in the eye (which is not present in most animals), the eyebrows make the Feli look very human and I personally am not really fond of it (if I want a cat-like pet, let it just be a cat-like pet). Lastly, the tail looks too smooth and shiny, which gives me the impression that it's hairless or at least different from the rest of the body.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Hand up Also like digi version of feli

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'll admit that when I first saw the pose, it struck me as a BIT seductive, but this is probably because I've never owned a cat. I'm also not getting how the expression is giving off the 'sexy time' vibe. I'm just seeing a smiling kitty. :/

Anyway, huge thumbs up to Jag, I think this is a stunning revamp. I always hated the feli (no offence to old fans) but as many have said before, the bizarre twisty pose, rather outdated line art and 5 year old factor always threw me off. But if this revamp is a go, I just may have to get one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the revamp is super cute, and I have no problem with the Feli lying down like this, but I see a few things that kinda bug me. ^^'

The Upper body of the feli don't really agree with the lower body of the feli, as in... the front part with the two arms faces to our right, and I see that the bottom part is too, but the [our] left shoulder seems a bit too far front for the feli to be lying down like that. X3'
The head seems to be a bit too far front as well, and the wings look like they're at impossible places.

That aside, I'm a little confused about the chest fluff, cause it looks like the rest of the felis have a different kind of fluff, but I know these are revamps and maybe its being changed. ^^

I really like the way the artist shaded everything though, and the revamp definitely looks pretty good. ^^ My personal favorite part is the paws <33 And I really do like the arms too, but they just a little bit mis-posed. <3 <3

Oh, and I could be wrong too, don't forget that. X3 So This is just how I see it in my p.o.v. Great job to the artist! ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love it! And I really like how Digi changed the tail and the eyes, and added the fur on its head. I think those are small but extremely helpful changes that improve the overall look. It does look a little plain without the line defining the fur on the chest on Digi's version, though =/ I like the chest fur and the pose of the artist's version. But wow, the fur on the top of the head, really helps, and I wish that maybe the fur had a little bit more definition along the hind legs. Not much, for we don't want it to look scruffy of course, but just maybe a little bit?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It seems ok... Although now I can see, why it looks to many people like "sexy furry athro".
The hips are a little to curvy, especially in that pose - the left leg line shoud be a little bit flatten - look at the photos of the cats below - the back line is slowly declined, without curves.
The second problem is with ligh/shadow on this unfortunate left leg - it looks like regular knee, almost humanlike, smooth, without a sign of fur and the line connected with the belly seems to be a little to strong and too long.
Despite above the revamp is very nice

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the new revamp and I would be happy if it went through, but I really ike the small changes that Digi made... if those could be incorporated, I would love it even more!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I vote for Digi's revamp. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Just throwing my opinion into the pot here... I agree with several suggestions people have made. The tail could be moved so as not to touch the head. The back half of the body is too smooth in comparison to the front, some fur accents should be added. The left wing...not sure if we should see that... something about that left shoulder angle doesn't seem right. And not sure if it's been mentioned but could the left ear face front more to match the right? Also one little thing keeps catching my eye... the line that separates it's right front leg from it's chest. It's hard to put into words, maybe make it a bit shorter? Or make it more of a light shadow and not such a defined line? Maybe it's the way it tapers in that bugs me, I dunno. I'm curious if anyone else sees what I mean there. One thing I know for sure is I'm so glad I'm not the artist for this pet, there's so many conflicting opinions. Not an easy revamp, that's certain.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I seriously looked at this and thought it was a strange woman. o-o;

Pretty, but umm, a bit sexy? o-o;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Your edit looks amazing, Digi! I would vote for it. :]

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like Digi's suggestions as well and I doubt all the colors will be revamped. I Like my galactic Feli...but I dream of Nightmare...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i love it, but I love DIgi's edit even better. Take those suggestions, maybe? Either way, its nice. ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh the new Feli is wonderful :3 A little to feminime though, I like Digi's new revamp.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh, wow, it's perfect.

The way Digi re-did it makes it look boy-ish..maybe you could use both, one for male one for female?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow, Exhibitted, this is really great! I did like your old revamp, but you've pretty much outdone yourself! claps As for the issue of it being too sexy; I know this topic has been hit by almost every post here, so I'll keep this short. I think it could use a bit of touching up, and Digi has some fantastic ideas for that- that still capture the lovely, pwnsome Feli look while not offending the easily offended (sorry if I offended anybody with that). :3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's about time. I don't know why people are whining about such insignificant details. IMO, it's great. But then, everything looks great compared to the current Feli. cough

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Okay, first off I want to say that I do indeed love this revamp. I think it is extremely well drawn and an improvement not only over the original but of the first revamp as well.

However, looking over a lot of comments I'm seeing a lot of the same complaints. I can see where some of you are coming from, others not s much.

Either way, I decided to do my own little edit anyway based on a lot of the complaints (too sexual, too feminine, the body looks disconnected, the tail is too close to the head, etc).

It's far from perfect and hardly of the same quality as the original art, but I did try. :3

I removed the eyelashes from the original because I think that was a huge part of what was making it look so feminine. While that was a feature on the original, I think their presence takes away any masculine possibilities the pet could have.

I tried to round out the belly a little more to not seem so...I dunno, sunken in? And I removed the lineart in the center of the chest to reduce the effect that possibly made it look like it had breasts. I also added the tuft at the top of the head to make it look less smooth and more furry.

I moved the tail a little bit to the right because people were simply complaining an awful lot about that. I also changed the eyebrows a little to neutralize the expression (make it look less sexy?).

If the image doesn't work, here is the URL:
http://i26.tinypic.com/14j2nit.png

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

sorry if my comment mass produced my comp is slow you see

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

everyone keeps saying its sexy.... who would find a feli sexy?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

everyone keeps saying its sexy.... who would find a feli sexy?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

o_o Moggy_mog, you are kidding, right? The Feli is a CAT absolutely, though not ness a domestic cat. Even the species name stems from the Genus Felis, and the family Felidae, referring to CATS. Of course what KIND of cat is up to artist interpretation, a virtual imaginary type, is completely understandable, but the Feli is most Certainly a Feline. Like the Celinox is. Even references to both of those being referred to them as a cat is in several item descriptions.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think that the head is a little off... Its placement could be a bit better and I think it's a little too round...? The neck is also not quite right... The pose gves it personality, but I don't think it's quite the personality of the Feli. The Feli is more mischievous, but a cute mischievous, and happy, but this pose makes it seem more evil-ishly mischievous, but I guess it's just how you look at it and what kind of personality you think the Feli should have '

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh some of you are so picky. It's NOT...I repeat...NOT a cat. It's a Feli. A make belief Subeta Pet. It may have slight reference to a feline, but thats about it. Sheesh...you guys are so picky about some simple aspects. If it has to pointy of and ear, or a longer hip...so what. It's a FELI...NOT a cat. Pfftt. It's wonderfully drawn artists! Well done. I love it, a lot more than the original. (And the old revamp as well.)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Thank you Luxe. I hated the first revamp for that same reason, but people thought we were crazy when we said that the pose looked like that. x_x Plus the shading in the first revamp dulled the Feli's pelt. This one is way better, at least the colors seem brighter, and though it does have a bit of anthro to it now that i understand why i think that, it IS a much better revamp than the first.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The pose change is too dramatic for my taste. I like revamps that retain as much of the original as possible... including the pose.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Really when you look at the first feli revamp, the lineart is really heavy and I vastly prefer the overall quality of this new revamp image. This old one looks dated already and it's only a year old! But the real reason it isn't being used is because of the placement of the hind legs. It was a lateral move from the current feli, and the art department at the time decided that they weren't 100% happy with it.

If you want to tie Subeta's pets to real world creatures, the first feli revamp is how pets sit when they have worms or their ass itches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv7tw4zPPng

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">You say that now because the feli is so easily tied to a "real" pet. How would you pose this same argument for a Sheeta, Escalade, Donadak, Kerubi, Dillema? Shall I continue? Just because it can be tied to a real world creature doesn't mean it always should.

I am not speaking about other pets, though

I think it should be tied to a real pet because that is what the Feli has always been like, and I feel it should keep its personality, like explained previously.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ahh, I like this one too. I think this one has a better pose than the last one actually. I never actually noticed the pose of the old feli. I really like the newer one better. And I don't necessarily think that the anatomy should be of a real cat. Actually, I think I have seen some cats lie down like this, so I do not see any problem on the pose. (if we are relating the feli to a cat still)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

There was news about a revamp for the Feli some time ago. In my opinion,it was actually cuter than this one. >.>

I don't know,this one looks like it's posing for...something. It just loses it's "innocence".

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The outline seems too light. Or is it my computer..? Could be, cause this Feli is awesome. 8Y Man.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Hate to comment yet again on this, but Luxe is entirely right. Just because a subeta pet is based off of a real animal doesn't mean it has to be perfect in terms of anatomy, pose, etc. It's a made up creature--a picture--and unless someone gives me video footage of a cat with purple markings, horns, and wings, I'll stand by this argument.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">While I agree with you that those are not real pets, I think it should still stay a bit related to the original pet.

You say that now because the feli is so easily tied to a "real" pet. How would you pose this same argument for a Sheeta, Escalade, Donadak, Kerubi, Dillema? Shall I continue? Just because it can be tied to a real world creature doesn't mean it always should.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

"Oh, the drama.
Hehe, I bet the furry fans out there just LOVE this revamp. You know who you are."

Aha. xD -guilty-

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the old one better . I don't know, this one looks like it's trying to seduce me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i don't like it, looks too human/anthro or whatever. plus it looks too female, i think all species should look like they could be male or female. and the pose is un-natural, not very pet-like

there was nothing wrong with the old version

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

satanael, your cat is cute. xD

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