Subeta - New Shops - Gold Account Testing

New Shops - Gold Account Testing

April 7, 2016 4:55 pm

Attention, Gold Account users! We have a new feature for you to test--revamped Shops and Galleries!

The user shops and galleries have been rewritten because they currently put a huge stress on our database, and it's affecting the ability of the site to function.

For the new shops and galleries, we’ve set limits for how many items you can have in each, which means we’ll be retiring the Super Shop! and Hoarder! achievements. Currently the limits are as follows: you can have 250 unique items in a shop, and 500 in a gallery. This limit doubles to 500 in a shop, 1000 in a gallery if you have a Gold Account. These limits are only for unique items, you'll be able to have as many duplicates as you'd like.

Your items won't disappear if your Gold Account expires while over the limit, you just won't be able to add any more until you have either sold/removed enough items or have an active Gold Account again. You can have up to 3 shops/galleries, or up to 6 with a Gold Account. We anticipate being able to raise these limits significantly, but we wanted to start off small and increase rather than starting off big and having to reduce it.

Gold Account testing for will be active until 11:59pm on April 16th. The new user shops/galleries will be released to everyone on the 17th. Once the new shops are live, you will not be able to add anything new to your old shops!

On April 24th, all old shops will be disabled. You’ll still be able to remove items from them, you just won’t be able to reprice items or have other users purchase from it.

The Super Shop! and Hoarder! achievements will be retired on the 17th once the shops/galleries go live for everyone.

Information and a link to the new shops can be found here if you're a Gold Account member. will start pushing changes/fixing bugs on the 13th, so keep that in mind as you submit feedback. We will continue to make any necessary changes once shops/galleries are live for everyone to make sure they’re working to their full potential!

We know this will be a big change for a lot of people, but it's a crucial step for the continued improvement and success of the site, and for your overall user experience.

April 8, 2016, 5:44 pm by

"here's a 250 item shop" is like handing someone a dollar when they ask for money to see a movie

April 8, 2016, 5:44 pm by

Now I've read the FAOC I'll think about to participate the beta testing for the shops. Just still thinking about.

April 8, 2016, 5:41 pm by

The newest news post hasn't alleviated any of my concerns. It didn't even respond to the Shop Til and Billionaire achievements.

I guess what concerns me most is the reduction of organization in this. I can't have different galleries to keep items apart (gourmet items to feed to pets, pet treasures, holiday collectibles etc). I have a big concern everything is going to end up in my vault and I'll waste a ton of time trying to figure out if Food X is something to keep, something to sell, or something to feed to Pet X. The same with other items. I mean, we can't even search by rarity or select multiple items at once.

Plus this is going to affect the autopricer, how many items are available to questers, and how many items people can restock. None of those were addressed in the FAQ either.

April 8, 2016, 5:22 pm by

My opinion is that I think regular items you want to sell in shops should be meant for selling but however, People love to collect items like plushies,etc...why cant we have another collection like clothing,wearables like plushies, beanbags? if the database can handle plushie,beanbag collection, why cant we have a wearable collection or maybe where we can name that collection whatever we want like wishlists..

everyone here has a goal and love to collect/hoard items like plushies,etc...I dont care if my shop can hold a certain amount as in time, hopefully that will increase but what i do care about is hoarding items i Love in a collection/gallery. It just seems like better options can be possible but you are stuck to one idea,one concept without really taking advice from YOUR USER BASE! You ask for polls for new pet designs sometimes, why cant there be a poll of some kind on what should take place instead of dismissing our valid points.

April 8, 2016, 5:16 pm by

Perhaps should have it set up as a LOYALTY thing, the longer you've been on this site the higher limits you can have etc.

Why do people even search galleries? Just take that option out and leave the galleries alone. I get I should be patient and see how things play out, but like I said in previous post is I play on this site to collect all the items. Not to hoard things. My vault is for items that are ready to use for recycling beasts, quests, gifting etc.

I love to collect things. I like to categorize things. This keeps my OCD/hoarding to a minimum in real life.

Subeta needs to find better ways to encourage people to buy GA. Not take away everything that we've worked so hard on the last 9 years.

April 8, 2016, 5:09 pm by

As someone who just came back to the site, it is a little disheartening to see a post like this. Limits on a gallery make collecting things feel like a pointless endeavor.

Some users collect things like minions or clothing. Both of categories have a large number of items to go with them. Some users, have either finished collections or nearly finished collections. With a limit to galleries, it makes collecting these items seem pointless because once you hit the max in one gallery, you are forced to make a new gallery.

It is simply too much work for someone who just wants to display 1 gallery of a single collection. Not 5 galleries of a single collection.

April 8, 2016, 4:56 pm by

Oh no I totally get that, I dont want junk in my vault either. I go through and remove things monthly so it stays down to important stuff. It just looked like a lot of people in this pile of arguments dont want to even put the gallery things in there for safe keeping until we get larger shops. Which is silly to me, as vaults are meant for that. Id rather a vault be used to store things than possibly have my items deleted because I left them in a shop that may or may not be removed when the new ones are implemented.

Ive seen people complain about even having vaults in the past as well. Idk why many are so against them. At least unlike shops, you can remove many items at a time. I have no patience to move thousands of things one click each xD

April 8, 2016, 4:39 pm by

I'm not going to rage quit, but I am going to be rage-naked, to protest the new thing...because protesting is cool, and being naked is portentous, and full of some kind of significance that will come across to target persons as meaningful in some way that seems appropriate. (does that sound rage-full enough? I hope it does because there are some of my friends who just think I make up excuses to go nekkid...)

April 8, 2016, 4:31 pm by

You have a total of 27065 items in your shop

I've been working so hard on the Super Shop achievements over the last few months and quietly amassing lots of items that would be sorted into collections in galleries. I'm devastated that I'll not be able to achieve the SS achievement, nor the Shop Till ones if new shops are needed.

Collecting is my main focus on Subeta - alongside achievements - so I'm not sure I'll have much cause to hang about which makes me sad and frustrated.

April 8, 2016, 4:23 pm by

So, this is annoying (sorry), but I forgot that my point in all of that was that I want my vault filled with only things that I want and not all the junk I can't put in my shop. Don't ask me why I couldn't have just said it so succinctly the first time. :)

April 8, 2016, 4:19 pm by

rip the people who own the massive shops with thousands of items and make most of their money off of it

April 8, 2016, 4:14 pm by

- I can't speak for everyone else, but personally, I just emptied 9 years worth of items from my vault into my shop because I realized I could no longer easily find the things that I genuinely liked and wanted to keep. I had every last item categorized, but there was so much in there that it was still difficult to navigate and it got really tiresome having to move everything into the category it fit in every single time I put anything in it. So, I said to myself, "Why on earth are you hoarding all this stuff? You can't find what you like, it's a hassle to maintain, and even Keith himself has said it hurts the site to hoard your items. So, sell it and make mad bank!!" And, I did. Only now I'm being told.. hahah, no, you know those items we don't want you hoarding? Well, now you're not going to have any choice about hoarding them because there's no place to put them except your tiny shops or your vault. Which for me personally is annoying because it was only a month or so ago that I literally spent two weeks removing all that stuff (that I spent weeks and weeks categorizing) only to be told I now have to move it all back or let it sit in a dead shop. shrug

April 8, 2016, 4:02 pm by

Ive already said that Im not excited for the limits, but had to comment on vaults. I use mine a ton, I have it sorted perfectly, I love it. Idk why so many are worried about using them a bit. Sure if its to put galleries in I see the annoyance, as galleries are meant to be seen. But in general I like my vault and hope to butts this doesnt make them unusable. I rely on it a ton.

Dont hate on da vaults bro. They are just there to quietly help ya <3

April 8, 2016, 3:35 pm by

Looks around at all the upset Subeta folks. This doesn't really affect me so much as I have much less in galleries and shop but it is disturbing to see all this anger. Dear Subeta People In Charge PLEASE fix this mess. I love it here. Subeta and friends here have seen me through rocky times and I love playing here SO FOR FOR CRYING OUT LOUD PLEASE DON'T LET IT ALL CRASH AND BURN. Thank you. Passing out cookies to the crowd. Eat them quick, there will be no place to put them...

April 8, 2016, 3:28 pm by

, Really don't like this type of ambush announcement. I have several questions and reservations about this "change". In regards to the # of shops and galleries we can each have, re "You can have up to 3 shops/galleries, or up to 6 with a Gold Account.". Does that mean we can only have 3 or 6 shop/galleries TOTAL or 3 or 6 shops AND 3 or 6 galleries TOTAL ? And IS there a way to do a mass MOVE from a Current Shop to a New Shop or is this going to be a tedious mess of single removals and quick stockings to accomplish it ? And, finally, WHY is the max items so terribly limited to 250 and 500 or 500 and 1000 respectively ? I understand that this is to be an implicit incentive to maintain Gold Accounts but it's coming across as a bit overhanded ! For the most part, this is a lovely site but I really think that you should have solicited some input from we Users about this.

April 8, 2016, 3:25 pm by

I also have a huge minion gallery. I have ben working on it for 9.5 years, since I signed up for Subeta. I have no idea what to do with them all now. I also do not want to lose them all just because I have nowhere to put them. Some are worth a lot and I spent a lot of time and SP finding and buying them all. 9.5 years worth.

April 8, 2016, 3:07 pm by

Uhm, I'm only here to hoard items so I guess this is goodbye. Those 18 500 unique items I have hoarded was a complete waste of time then :/

April 8, 2016, 3:06 pm by

I'm not even a hoarder, but because I stock my shop instead of just sharding everything this is going to have a terrible impact on me. I mean really, what is my choice with a 250 max items per shop? Just shard and stop bothering with a shop?

April 8, 2016, 2:58 pm by

I also have a minion gallery being threatened by this. I have stayed on the site, as well, really just searching and collecting minions (and other random stuff) because it was so much fun to add to the collection. This update is just a shit show and a bit insulting to the users who dedicate so much time (AND MONEY) to this site. I am considering quitting, too.

April 8, 2016, 2:56 pm by

subeta if u want to just shut the site down just announce it dont run ppl off with this stupidity

April 8, 2016, 2:56 pm by

I'm both amused and frustrated. My very humble gallery exceeds the new limit by 77 items. lol Honestly I didn't want to be someone to come off as rude and perhaps gain trouble for it, but seeing as everyone else is letting you guys HAVE IT? lol I'll just say, who's fault is this? I've been here longer than this account, 2007 maybe? And theres been a head-spinningly large amount of items for as long as I can remember, an excess of unusable items is almost this sites theme, you've set up a game the ENCOURAGES us to collect and hoard! Like? Thats literally a huge element of gameplay here. And who's fault is that? You guys could have /s l o w e d t h e h e c k d o w n/ with adding masses of pointless items a long time ago! Why else make items that have /literally no use/ other than for us to collect them? But now we're being punished for it? Now that you realized perhaps thats not very sustainable, what, 10 years down the line?? Come on guys.

April 8, 2016, 2:49 pm by

One more reason not to do achievements. I can live with the shops and galleries, though I feel horrible for those who use them frequently. I toss everything I don't need immediately, but still want, in the vault and everything else I shove in the shop (which only has around 600 items thankfully!) I don't update prices anymore since my GA went out so I guess just deletion of items in the future? I just hope the wardrobe never gets limited. My subeta life pretty much revolves around HAs. I've recently started getting more dedicated to my pets. Glad I wasn't anywhere near the hoarder or even trying for it. To those with massive shops and galleries I am so sorry.Everyone Has so many valid points and personally I think the errors are better than making those with such huge hoards move the items.

April 8, 2016, 2:33 pm by

I'm not even a hoarder and my shop always has more than 500 items. Having to make multiple shops to accommodate all of my items is going to be extremely annoying, and make autopricing very difficult.

I'm not totally against this change, because site efficiency is key, but I think those limits need to be raised.

April 8, 2016, 2:26 pm by

As someone with no galleries and 1 shop... I'm still against this update after a night of sleep.

My shop is currently under the limit for the sole reasons of I haven't been questing. Instead I've been fragging and working for recycle points. I don't like to hoard beyond TC and wardrobe items I like/use. I'm cleaning out my vault between typing this for the sheer reason of disliking hoarding. This update does not seem to be the way to discourage people from hoarding, or to encourage them to sell/fragg their items based on the comments here alone. So, it's a bandaid in regards to hoarding at best since the overload of items (that we have had many incentives to keep up until this point) will remain.

The tech is beyond me, but if the root of the issue is still there by the very nature of the site... do you think this will really help change all that in 10 days?

April 8, 2016, 2:20 pm by

Everyone has said and elaborated on the reasons this is not a good idea. I want to state my disappointment in the loss of my Gallery. I enjoy looking at my collection and adding to it. I have been here 9+ years, I have accepted all the other changes without a word. This one affects all of us, whether it is questing, restocking, collecting, vending, virtually every area except forums. I gave up on achievements a while ago as every time I got close it was retired. I USED to enjoy it. I know with the limit on how many items I can sell I sure will not use those precious spaces to stock low priced items which are used for quests, recycle beast etc. I would be delighted to get rid of many items that are virtually useless to me. Perhaps an achievement for deleting items? Heck, even the donation center will be affected, who wants more stuff to just stick in a vault?

AND THE TIME LIMIT BEFORE IMPLEMENTATION IS UNREASONABLE!

April 8, 2016, 2:19 pm by

My new shop will not autoprice and my new gallery still has not shown up either

April 8, 2016, 1:49 pm by

Where is my new gallery? I just made it is not showing up anywhere, it has all my booster that I wish to use at the end of the year.

April 8, 2016, 1:45 pm by

Are you fucking kidding me? NOT. HAPPY.!! I don't give a crap about the hoarder achievement, but Where the hell am I going to display my minion hoard now? Not in the ridiculous "minion zoo", that's for sure. Guess I can kiss away 8 years of collecting, and over 2.6k minions. What's the point of holding onto them now? Actually. That was my whole motivation on Subeta, so you can probably kiss me goodbye, as well, if this is implemented. Even my smaller gallery for specific items in memory of my daughter has more than 1k items. I'd have to set up 2-3 galleries just to accommodate her things? Fuck that.

April 8, 2016, 1:41 pm by

It's a bit inconvenient, sure. But the Subeta gods have always been good to us; they will work on solutions to our problems. Thanks for taking the panic in such a classy way, staffy staff peoples!

Maybe we'll get to buy extra galleries in the millionaire center or something like that. I've got a lot of seasonal items that only exist to look pretty for me. I think starting small is smart, but it's created a tiny bit of mass hysteria.

April 8, 2016, 1:40 pm by

Since most of my comments about this are still unprintable and I feel none of the excellent points we're making here is gonna change this ugly decision to make site pointless, just one thing: can we please get the blue notify box about new shops and new search removable? As in "I saw it, I acknowledged it, you can [censored] it, I'm not gonna use it until I'm actually forced to, thank you very much"?

April 8, 2016, 1:32 pm by

Just a hoard For now 146,479 (32,903)

Dear Subbie, This site for me is about sitting back, relaxing, reading to my pets, talking to friends and hoarding. I enjoy hoarding. I haven't yet hit the top tier, but I always planned to get there eventually. Now, not only is that -not- going to happen, you're going about it in a short time frame with barely any warning AND with minuscule limits to launch. I'm with other people, you can kiss my cold hard cash goodbye and when you really muck it up, the way you seem to be about to, you can kiss me goodbye too. I've been here 7, nearly 8 years, through all your crap, but you nuke my hoarding? Bah. I'll sit and wait and see, but I don't expect anything amazing from you anymore.

April 8, 2016, 1:27 pm by

I'm actually for this change braces for rotten tomatoes I think the hoarding achievements have been a little inaccessible to most users (I say as I'm only a couple days away from Super Shop), and I think smaller shop inventories will make it easier to keep prices on things current. Without a GA, it's pretty painful to hand-price more than one page at a time. When I don't have a GA, prices on things in my shop can stagnate at high, outdated prices for literal months because I'm just busy putting a price on all my new stuff. Outdated prices aren't doing me or shoppers any good.

The news post says that these are current limits, not final set ones. I'm sure they'll be able to make these shops a bit bigger when it's actually set in motion. It is a current issue that these shops are the size of one day's vending limit, and I'm sure the staff has that in mind and will accommodate for that when the testing stage is over.

April 8, 2016, 1:26 pm by

after sleeping on this i'm mainly concerned about the abysmal inflation of CSC wrt to gold accts and now it's gonna get worse

April 8, 2016, 1:26 pm by

, Most of the time I'm a person who could say something like this:

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everyone needs to take a deep breath and think about the proposed changes over here. let&;s come up with alternative solutions, or constructive critism and not just leave an insult or a threat to leave the site so soon into this process. subeta is a place where I can do my own thing away from the everyday hassles of life, so this affects us all in some type of way. This news is not final, they realize the concerns and are going to increase the limit. The code definitely needs updating so maybe this isn&;t the best way, ..hopefully other options are presented.

I'm sure this is not the best way. It's huge mistake. I'm also not fond on ragging or so, but in this case I have got my understandings for the persons who are ragging. That is a lot to say for someone which normally only see disadvantages in.

I think other options will be the only realistic solution to improve the site. This non-solution makes me so sad, and I even don't run a gallery by myself and I'm content with just one shop. But this has also an negative affect on me, because some of my friends has got a gallery and if I send them a gift they couldn't use it anymore. :( This mistake will not only result in unnecessary full vault's and a lot of other inconveniences with the items, but it has also an effect on the social way. Gifts would be also pointless. That's truly sad.

I'm also for better alternatives, but at this moment I'm too sad to think clear enough for creative solutions and good alternatives about this point. Tough they are absolutely needed. I hope other members could give better ideas than this measure from the staff.

April 8, 2016, 1:25 pm by

3 shops of 250 items each :/

Some of the big vending/quest people are going to drown in items. Half the game is just going to be desperately trying to sell/frag your stuff before your vault reaches criticality and collapses in on itself like a black hole.

April 8, 2016, 1:03 pm by

Also, I'm not sure if the team has discussed this yet, but if we have 5 shops to accommodate our items can we only autoprice once? If so, that makes the autopricer kind of pointless.

April 8, 2016, 12:59 pm by

Are the treasure chests still unlimited? I do collect a lot of items for certain themes but they are all in my treasure chests as opposed to galleries, I am hoping this won't be affected? I do see why many people are upset, for those who hoard/collect, and I hope the minimum amount of items allowed in each shop/gallery is increased for their sake. Instead of complaining I will try and offer a solution for subeta players- For those who quest like I do, we accumulate a LOT of items. I would suggest using the fragmentizer for now to reduce the amount of items you have. You can get some nice things in the crystal shop which are worth a lot of money if you don't actually want to keep them. My only suggestion for subeta staff is maybe holding off creating so many new items for now, at least until the shops situation is sorted out and we have an official final number of the items allowed in shops and galleries. I do appreciate Subeta always having new items to collect, but if we are going to be limited on how much we can collect I don't think it's fair to tease us with more items. It's because the site makes so many great items that we want to collect them- I don't think we should be 'penalized' for it.

April 8, 2016, 12:48 pm by

If the amount is raised people still have to dismantle their galleries and sell less for who knows how long. Just seems like there should be a better way to go about things. During that time here will be oh it worked!! Then it will all start back up again. Always does sigh

April 8, 2016, 12:44 pm by

I do like all the people who keep bringing up the fact that Subeta SHOULD (please note that anticipate does not mean it WILL happen) be able to raise the limits and dismissing the numerous valid points made by what looks to be 99% of the people who have commented. Please let me know when something this big of Subeta's has ever gone to plan and not caused mass chaos. The issue remains that the number is far too low and there is no easy way to remove everything from a shop or gallery and redistribute it. The concerns are perfectly valid. Since announcing the news yesterday the site has begun to move even slower as people do begin to try to move their items around. It's all going swimmingly, really.

And again, to just say it, vaults are an eyesore that most people do not wish to use, but they appear to just be ignored during this whole upheaval.

April 8, 2016, 12:43 pm by

So when this does not work what else will be taken away???? All the previous band aids (fixes) were supposed to solve things and yet here we are again with something else being taken away because of the problem (s) persisting.

People are saying well why be upset it will help. It's because the truth of the matter this will not solve anything just like every other fixes in the past. That is the problem lol The 2 main things economy and site loading/lag/errors and still its all crap despite all the previous site fixes.

I used to spend loads of time on here and now I'm lucky to stay on for just 5 mins a week. Yes, the site does nice things etc but the very core of what many feel in love with is being taken away more and more.

April 8, 2016, 12:28 pm by

Oh come on this is the only thing I play now. But if I am not going to have the freedom to sell and collect there is no point playing. This is BS

April 8, 2016, 12:27 pm by

Before we all have a complete psychotic break, reread with me: We anticipate being able to raise these limits significantly. Significantly. This is a trial run to see how the system performs, and how large shops really need to be. As well, you are not going to be forced to dismantle your 12k item gallery only to rebuild it over and over as the limit is increased: you can leave everything there to rot until the new galleries are big enough to hold a more acceptable portion of your draconic hoard.

This is not an emergency. This is not going to kill anyone. You can make your opinions heard without flipping every table on the continent.

April 8, 2016, 12:15 pm by

will our vaults still be unlimited? Should we start moving every thing to it? Will pet treasures also be affected by this change?I have over 1000 items in one of my pets treasures.(Goes off in panic attack with paper bag to breath in)

April 8, 2016, 12:10 pm by

So are we to transfer our old shops to new shops? Can there be a button for that at least to keep lag down while transferring?

p.s. items storage is still item storage it's still going to bog the site is it not.

Can you not get a second server for galleries and one for shops and program to work together?

Well time to auto price my main shop to make things easier I guess. I was reserving it for luminair for easier shopping for folks

April 8, 2016, 12:08 pm by

One night of sleep later... and this seems like an even worse idea now, if anything.

On top of everything I'd noted before, isn't this going to severely mess up the economy? Unless the prices from the old, not yet emptied shops remain visible, every single item on the site will start off with no market price once the new shops go live. And what happens when there's no existing market price? People massively, massively overprice things. There'll be massive inflation, and for rare/limited items, it's going to take a long time to stabilize again.

Even if old prices remain visible, having stock limits that low will inevitably lead to a lot of users selling only the most profitable items. That's going to lead to inflated prices and low availability for commons, which is bound to reduce user interest in questing (due to inflated prices), restocking (for anything but rare items), vending (due to leading to getting too many junk items not worth stocking) and likely events that give out a lot of items like Morostide and Fireside (again, due to getting too many junk items). That's four areas a lot of people frequently engage with right there. While it might lessen the strain on the servers due to less user activity, this is going to hurt the user base a lot.

That aside, as a few people already noted, it's very likely that a lot of users (if they're willing to sacrifice the necessary amount of time for it) will just move their shop/gallery stock to the vault. While that may avoid the shop search-related server strain, won't server strain from too many items still prove to be a problem, especially since there'll be more of an incentive to go through the vault more often (to check if any items in there could be worth adding to the limited shop stock)? For the shop search, since the change will likely lead to users making multiple shops to stock more items, won't that still prove to be a strain on the server (since there'll be more shops to check, even if each individual shop has a smaller stock)?

What about items in old shops that belong to inactive users who may not hear about the change in system? Since users won't be able to buy from old shops, that's going to lead to some old items with limited availability (due to being retired, rewards for old events, etc) becoming even less available, causing them to either inflate further or become entirely unbuyable.

The more I think about it, the worse this change seems, and I doubt it'll be possible to find ways to alleviate all of the problems it causes during the (awfully short and short-notice) testing period. This will hurt Subeta overall, and will cause a lot of users to leave if the comments on this post are any indication - and considering that Subeta already has difficulty attracting new blood, I'm not sure if that's something this site can afford.

April 8, 2016, 12:04 pm by

This site continues to amaze with it's stupidities. Over the years (and the site has been on the web for a good number of years now) there have been massive problems and loads of excuses for them. This new nonsense is just plain stupid. Maybe you guys are trying to see how many users you can get to leave the site - if so, this new crappy idea could be just the thing to accomplish that. And lets not use the excuse that the site can't handle this or that - other similar sites on the web have thousands more users and guess what? They don't have all these so-called problems.

April 8, 2016, 11:57 am by

Now where am I supposed to put all of my burned pies and cakes?!!

April 8, 2016, 11:28 am by

this is BS i dont like this at all i have over 1k items in a bunch of my gallerys cause of the theme i collect. There is to many items on the site and new ones everyday how can i have the freedom to collect and like the items on this site if your going to do this. Im really really upset over this.

April 8, 2016, 11:27 am by

All I do on Subeta is quest, sell those items and hoard money. And it all stands and falls with my shop. With my shop not properly functioning there is no reason for me to play anymore.

The only thing this is good for is my wallet. I won't be buying a gold account anymore because what's the point of doing quests when you don't have space to sell the items? What's the point of a gold account because that amount of items is easily manually priced? With this system I won't be spending much time here anymore, and thus won't buy those 4 last pet slots with $, because why spend $ on a website that has no use to me any more.

There are simply no words to express how angry I am.

April 8, 2016, 11:20 am by

I see nothing in this limitation to the shops what seems it could be an improvement for the site at all. This seems more to a kind of site-suicide to lost a lot of members.

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