But she is well-proportioned and that makes all the difference. And if Shinwa was originally designed to be slender, how does adding weight to her somehow make her "more realistic"?

She wasn't designed to be slender, she was drawn in very dated anime style, which by default tends to lean on the tiny, ruler straight torso and very large bust. Now she actually looks like a person, with all the 'abnormal' shapes people carry.

sighs One more time. Go look at pictures of the average teen/young adult female. And that's it. I'm tired of going in circles with you. Shinwa is out of proportion and that is that.

I'll pass on the passive aggressive, patronizing sighs crap thank you very much.

If you want to pretend there aren't actual people that actually look like that, then fine. But don't say she needs a 'major overhaul' just because you disagree with one small detail of her design. You don't like it? Fine. That doesn't mean it needs 'fixing'

Her hair still bothers me. One pigtail seems to be much farther forward on her head than the other one, and the top of her head is weirdly flat:

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Agreeing with . I'm 115 pounds, and I have arms like the revamped Shinwa.

You cannot say that every single thin person has thin arms. Because I am thin in my waist, yet apparently my arms are "fat" according to you. Thank you so much for basically saying I'm not proportional.

If you hate the revamp so much, figure out some custom CSS and put the old image back. ;) Because the revamp isn't going to change, sorry.

Petite with hella arms ? UNHEARD OF. Oh, oops. Kinda need to rethink that.

While I'm here, let's not forget one thing: Goddesses Have Bodies

Peace.

Each religion/belief has its down idea of what a goddess should look like. Please don't generalize all goddesses to just Greek and Roman goddesses.

With this said, there shouldn't really be a way for them to look. I get it people want the goddesses to stand out, look super human in some way, but at this point, it is just left up to the artist's interpretation. Shinwa now looks like a fairly common person. The updates to the revamp I do believe helped a bit, more could maybe be done but at this point I honestly doubt any other changes will be made, and I'm fine with this.

[edit] At the time those paintings and statues were made, though, that was the most attractive body type. Gods and goddesses have often been portrayed as idea figures, which really depends on the culture and by the times that they lived in.

Do you think I haven't been trying? I actually don't want the old anime style. I want Deyra's version, which with a few minor changes totally revamped the revamp. I just haven't been able to get code for CSS yet.

/* Replace Shinwa with whatever you want. Maybe a puppy or something. IDK. / img[src="http://img.subeta.net/npc_shinwa.png"]{ display: block; -moz-box-sizing: border-box; box-sizing: border-box; background: url(YOUR IMAGE HERE) no-repeat; width: 300px; / Width of new image / height: 300px; / Height of new image / padding-left: 300px; / Equal to width of new image */ }

Borrowed from css-tricks.com

Oh, thank you! And naw, no puppies though I do love them. If you want to see the version I'm going to use, go look at the Shinwa news thread.

Thank you! :D A puppy seems like a great idea but I'm also going with Deyra's version from the news thread :)

In other news - You don't know what she's hiding under her robes. Maybe a corset to get her waist tiny, maybe some good ol' fashioned spanx.

I hope future revamps just get FATTER and FATTER so I can watch everyone in this thread just seethe. Jesus.

omfg jenn

I hope the next NPC who gets it is like... Esmeralda from Subeautique. Then due to the (pun intended) massive change in her life she releases a line of "Plus Size Designer clothes" but has a mental breakdown, shows them and announces them but then hoards them all in her room along with empty Fried fester buckets.

and then releases a line of couture (literal) garbage

in collaboration with the recycle beast, of course. For a more eco friendly subeta.

Ah yes the one with the completely redone facial features. So technically this isn't a matter of "disproportions", it's a matter of standard beauty.

That's one fucking strong corset. Holla