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Legacy Shops Retirement Plan!


Hello, everyone! It's time for a much-needed update on legacy shops. Our current shop system was introduced in 2016. Now that it's 2020 (new decade!), we are going to begin officially retiring legacy shops. This announcement will clarify our plan moving forward.

EDIT: For those who don't know what a legacy shop is, legacy shops are older shops created before the updates we made in 2016. If you have a legacy shop, it will show up with an exclamation mark symbol next to it in your shops list to make it clear. If you joined the site more recently, you should have nothing to worry about. :)

Removing Items from Legacy Shops

We understand that removing items from legacy shops can be a laggy, frustrating affair - and that's the fault of crumbly legacy code, not you! To solve this, we've created a new tool to streamline the process of transferring items out of your legacy shops.

Found here, the new "Move Items to Vault" tool will transfer items into your vault - into any vault category of your choice. Simply click a button to start the transfer; it will happily chug along behind-the-scenes, and you'll receive a sidebar notification when it is done. Once the items are in your vault, they'll be easier to access and deal with, and you can take your time sorting them from there :)

Without further ado, here's a mini-FAQ on how this works and what you might like to know:

How long will the transfer take to finish? This is hard to say, and depends on several factors such as the size of your shop and how many other shops are being processed at the same time. The item transfer itself is very fast; In testing, a legacy shop with over 22,200 unique items finished transferring in about 30 minutes.

Once I click "Move Items", how can I tell that the transfer is working? You will be able to see the items appearing into your vault.

What happens when the transfer is done?

  • Any profits in your legacy shop till will be added to your on-hand amount.
  • The now-empty legacy shop will be deleted.
  • You will receive a sidebar notification informing you that the transfer is done!

Won't these big item transfers cause the website to lag? Transferring everything at once would definitely break the site, so your items will be put in a queue and processed at a controlled rate (every few milliseconds). This happens behind-the-scenes, and the rate is controlled so that it cannot put too much strain on the website.

You should not experience increased lag while this happens, since it will not be happening on the webpages you visit. You may experience increased lag when accessing your vault while the transfer is in progress, because of items getting continuously added into it.

Is there a risk that I will lose items if something goes wrong? We've put several failure checks in the code to anticipate and prevent this from happening. For example, if an item fails to get placed in your vault, it does not get deleted from your legacy shop; the transfer attempt is cancelled and the code tries again a few milliseconds later.

With all that said, click here to check it out! A link to this will also be added soon to the usual Legacy Shops page and/or the navigation bar for easier access.

Official Retirement Schedule

Legacy shops will be officially retired in April, 2020. We will announce a more specific date as soon as we have it. On that date, the Legacy Shops page will be taken down. The Move to Vault tool will remain up until further notice, as a way to remove items from your legacy shop.

At some point AFTER that date, we may schedule downtime to migrate remaining items out of legacy shops. We will make sure to give ample notice if that happens.

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
LunarEchoes
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Kradyn

Sounds good thanks for letting us know

Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Pollinator

Dumb question--how do I know if I have a legacy shop?

Also, how will this effect old galleries?

Edit: Just checked the transfer page--I guess I don't have any legacy shops/galleries, so that's one thing I don't have to worry about! lol

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Vin Venture

Lol I don't know what is a legacy shop.

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Feanor

I know this is a dumb question, but what is a legacy shop? I’m assuming it’s different from a regular user shop.

Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
MarchOnOff
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Princess Gri

All good and dandy, thank you much, but what happens if after said transfer is done or in the middle of it, we get an error (502, or what not) or an application error, as we get now?

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Mavirin

I'm in the same boat as you all. What in the world is a legacy shop? And why don't I know what they are? XD

Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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RingWraith

Oh holy wow - you should have done this a year ago! This is going to make things SO much simpler. I just added a new category and dumped everything in that for sorting later. Thank you so much.

Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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I joined the site less than two weeks ago. Is my shop a legacy shop?

Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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How do we know if we have a legacy shop and how do we get to it if we do have one?

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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RingWraith

- It's the old shops, that they did away with when we were all hoarding stuff. lol You can tell it's legacy if you look at your shop list - there is an exclamation mark next to any that are legacy.

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For those asking what a legacy shop is: In 2016 (three years ago!) we made some major updates to our user shops system. Legacy shops are all the shops that were created before that update and still running on the old system.

If you joined Subeta after those changes, you should have nothing to worry about :)

If you still have any legacy shops, you'll know because they will show up with a "caution" symbol in your shops list, the page for them looks totally different and you can't change the items prices, only remove items.

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Crotchety

Well this is nice and lovely but I already have trouble getting into my vault on a regular basis with the current crop of items in there. Adding thousands more is not going to help.

I've been trying to transfer stuff into my minion zoo - but that's even messier than my vault or legacy shops. And working with the zoo is utter crap.

I've been fragging like crazy to get rid of stuff, and that's a mess too.

Even on good days and with tricks and work arounds I still have a great deal of trouble getting into my non-legacy shops and galleries to move stuff around.

look at the top menu, Commerce->Your shops->list of shops. In the list of shops any with a triangle with an exclamation point and no (qs) are legacy shops/galleries.

Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Can we transfer more then one shop at once? Also can we go anywhere on the site, do quests, w/e, while the transfer is going?

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Jasper

Very exciting! I don't have any legacy shops (I changed mine over as soon as new shops were made) but I really appreciate the time and coding you put into this!

Hopefully when this is all over it will help the site - I know there must still be massive galleries of items being hoarded on some long-inactive/frozen accounts that haven't been touched in years.

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These FAQ sections should answer your question :)

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Won&;t these big item transfers cause the website to lag?
Transferring everything at once would definitely break the site, so your items will be put in a queue and processed at a controlled rate (every few milliseconds). This happens behind-the-scenes, and the rate is controlled so that it cannot put too much strain on the website.</p>
<p>You should not experience increased lag while this happens, since it will not be happening on the webpages you visit. You may experience increased lag when accessing your vault while the transfer is in progress, because of items getting continuously added into it.</p>
<p>Is there a risk that I will lose items if something goes wrong?
We&;ve put several failure checks in the code to anticipate and prevent this from happening. For example, if an item fails to get placed in your vault, it does not get deleted from your legacy shop; the transfer attempt is cancelled and the code tries again a few milliseconds later.

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Quote by MarchOnOff
Can we transfer more then one shop at once? Also can we go anywhere on the site, do quests, w/e, while the transfer is going?

Yes, and yes :) The transfer happens in the background, so you can keep playing the site as usual while you wait for it to finish.

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Thank you! I guess I don't have any lol

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Kadomar

Only the first page of my legacy shop is showing up ...does this indicate a problem? I kind of what to know how much I have in there before I start moving ^^ The first page only showing numerical and to "An" ...so obv lots more. It only shows one page at the top left :o

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Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Dreamfyre

I hope this helps the site lagging!

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