Subeta -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i love it.but it does kinda look a bit overweight but it is very very nice and it really caught my eye

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

O~O I'm not sure, I like them both. However, I do like that the original had a slanted eye instead of the whole round one this has. Maybe it's just a different perspective? Whatever the case, it seems the whole look I associate the mortiking with was a sort of, shy, misunderstood monster...XD Very cliche, but that's what i saw in the old look. This look is a little mean, though I love the mouth....XD

Also, about the eyes, the other colored mortikings (like the glacier) have slanted eyes that are quite narrow and long.O.o I do love both... I voted for the original just because I like the stance and eyes... But well done on this one!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The new one, to be honest... I don't like it. It looks as if it's about to topple over because it appears overweight, not muscled or toned. It doesn't seem as fierce as the other one, despite the exposed teeth. I can rather imagine it growling at someone to get away from its cheeseburger instead of to appear ferocious.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The rendering and everything is very beautiful, but if we could just combine the attitude of the old one with the artistic abilities of the new one...that would be the perfect mortiking!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

-snarl-

I think the pet would look a tad bit nicer if we could see the end of his/her tail.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It looks like Principal Greedyguts from Jacob Two-Two crossed with an unhappy Sumo wrestler who hasn't slept in weeks, if you ask me.
Since the Mortiking appears to be a meat-eating subetapet- with teeth like that, it looks like it would both be too fat to catch food and it wouldn't have enough power in it's jaws, judging by the lack of a lower jaw. And also, it looks... odd, with it's legs splayed out like that, as if it where about to lay a clutch of eggs.. The far arm, too, looks quite warped, as if it had been broken in the past. And the marking under the eye just looks like... dark circles from a lack of sleep and not like the old marking.
I think with a longer neck, a more defined jaw, less fat, more lower jaw, and perhaps a touch-up to the marking beneath the eye, this could look good.
Though, for now, I still have to stick with the old Mortiking. This one just doesn't cut it for me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Coli: I agree actually. Once you notice the spines going both directions you can't help but notice it looks like the spine curves down his side and not up the back. can't shake it Everything else is still really great, though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't think I like this revamp much at all. :/ Of course, kudos to Deo on the work, you did a fabulous job with shading and stuff as you always do, but I've still got my little... complaints? about it.

It looks chubby - as if it's on steroids. I don't really feel threatend by something that doesn't even look like it can catch me. :/ I liked the sleek shape of the older one, it looked much more like a predator.

While the old one's face says "Gtfo of my territory", I feel like the new one couldn't be bothered to say much at all. :/ Just glare tiredly at you.

Sure the art is more snazzy and detailed, but why should new always = better? I feel it's lacking the life that the old one had.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I voted for the old one. >> This one is fine but the face just bothers me too much.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow, I am surprised at how close the poll is, given I have absolutely no problem with this new mortiking. It looks really great. I especially love the detail on the tail and the chest.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The only thing I find wrong with the new version is that the spines switch direction from bending down to bending upwards. This makes it appear as if the frill bends away from us, so doesn't line up with it's backbone and ends on it's left ear. Andi if I'm talking complete dutch to you let me know. Once you notice it you can't NOT notice it.

In comparison the glacier mortiking's looks straight because all the spines bend the same way

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The anatomy and all looks really good, but something looks a bit off to me, with the face. Mostly the mouth. I mean, I know he's supposed to look menacing and all, but it just looks a bit.. deformed, to me. :/ Otherwise, I think it's well done. Great job to the artist.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The lineart is too thin. He looks bored, I'd rather see him without the snarl. He looks a little fat rather than super muscular. His claws are dull! Why are his claws dull?

I like his neck and his tail, but what is really killing this for me is the lack of personality behind the snarl and the lineart is WAY too thin.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Its giving me night mares 0__0

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I personally like how the older mortiking looked for a few reasons. while it isn't nearly as detailed as far as colouring goes, it seemed, by the pose, that it's head was tremendously heavy- the way he was crouched downward, and his heavy body and tail sort of counterbalanced it out so he wouldnt topple over.
I just think that this version looks like he has a really tiny head staped onto this huge fat body, and considering all of the bulk is in the hindquarters, he'd most likely always have trouble keeping balance. Good thing he can lean on his own tail for support.
Now, i'm not talking slim it down like a velosotor or anything, but if you slimmed the stomach and chest just slightly, and perhaps lengthened the neck or enlarged the head, it might give it a more natural and practical look. I also agree on the mouth issue. It's a really nice picture, it just seems so impractical to em, and makes the mortiking look a bit lazy instead of ferocious.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i was wondering if the same artist was resposible for all of those different colours...thanks luxe...

i don't have a problem with the chub factor here...in fact to me it looks more beefy than chubby and i don't think that's a bad thing...it's nice to have a pet that differs from others in physical build...i was however wondering about its left hand (the one on the right as we look at it)...maybe that could be a little larger...even taking perspective into account it seems a trifle small...and as for the elvis snarl (which i adore btw), perhaps the mouth itself needs to be bigger (see the bloodred Mortiking for reference)...the snarl seems to be placed a little too far forward and could possibly look better if placed a little further back on the face...having said that, i think this one is a big improvement on the last one and would like to thank DNA for all her wonderful work...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm real pleased with this one. It matches some of the more - dynamic colors of it's species. I so voted for the new one... BUT I think it's mouth is too small and it's claws should look a bit more.. sharp. But I really like this one. ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

...It's kinda strange. Maybe because i'm so used to seeing it cartoony?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It needs some face stubble.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Skin, muscles, anatomy and fins are great. They show a serious upgrade in the ability of the artists now updating and drawing pets for Subeta. And I would kill to be able to draw a dragon tail that connects that well to a body and has the muscling correct enough to look like it can be carried away from the body like that.

On the down side the face seems a bit off. I think the length of the head is too short. If you are going to attach to such a massive neck a longer and/or wider head might make it look more balanced. Also change it so the eye color and the sign on the stomach match. Having them different colors messes up the overall color scheme. It pulls the eye back and forth between the two standout colors and doesn't let you focus on the overall picture.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

That is bloody glorious. No constructive criticism, not the tiniest little nitpick. I think that's utterly perfect.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

First off, that is some insane, insane shading. Literally.

But even so, I find myself missing the slightly hunched pose the original had. I know this has to match some of the revamps, but I'll be sad to see the pose go.

Its face looks a bit.. lethargic to me. The black marking under its eye makes it look tired, and the snarl isn't pronounced enough, in my opinion. I also think the jaw is a bit too round - it makes its face look fat.

But that shading is just... wow.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yeah, the other ones look perfectly fine. I just think this one's face needs fixing up. It needs to look more...handsome, I suppose.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

While I voted for the new because it matches the more recent mortiking art styles and has much better detail and art, one thing that would make it look a bit better would be if we could see the end of the tail. At first glance it looked kind of like a stump to me. Also, the tail has a few details on it in the original which are now hidden. The spines directly behind the neck are missing. Another few things that seem off to me are: the eyes look a little more round and smaller than the galactic/glacier/bloodred versions (maybe cause of perspective? I don't know), and his mouth seems a little smaller than its supposed to be. But overall this is a great improvement - much more personality. Looks like a bully!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

His claws look thick and blunt, not sharp at all. And his eyes are too tiny and tired-looking. Other than that, it's wonderful, especially the tail. Looks like he could crush a car with it ^^ If it means that the awful Bank/Vault Mortiking will be revamped, then I'm all for it!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I've been waiting for this one, but the coloring makes him look so.. lumpy. I guess it's the combo of the scales and muscles, but to me it looks like he's got a bad case of cellulite.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Bloodred.
Graveyard.
Galactic.

It would perhaps help people out to compare it to existing redraws on the site as well as against the current basic moritkings.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

If this goes through, someone so has to get one and call it Bruce Willis.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I voted for this one I like the detail it could do with the muscles defining more though and the mouth should be bigger and more sharp teeth should show. Also I think more of the tail should be seen, there than that it's looking quite good, it's much more realistic looking than the old one. Nice work!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

...Thank you for this Deo. Really, thank you so much. The mortiking has always been one of my favorites, and this revamp is just too awesome. Subeta NEEDS scary pets. They shouldn't all be adorable and loving. Know what that would make us? Neopets, where even the T-rex's are adorable. While I somewhat agree that the revamp could possibly be slimmed down a bit, I think it's perfectly fine. Kudos, Deo.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I luff the chibiness n.n

Love all these revamps, you guys gotta do the Hikei and Harvester next 8DD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

You guys seriously don't know how much I wanted to make the mortiking look more like a real dinosaur. What I did was try to fix up the old version's anatomy a bit--which is a serious wreck. Making it stand like a proper carnivorous dinosaur would've turned it into a brand new pet, and that wasn't the route I wanted to take. So comparing the new version with real dinosaurs probably isn't the best way to look at it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Along with the mouth and pose comments, I really don't like the fact that he looks so chubby. It looks like at any minute his arteries are gonna pop right off, yanno? If that was supposed to be muscle, it needs to be redone. His overall shape is way too thick. He looks almost as big as the Dillema.

Also, his tail bugs me. The tip SHOULD be visible somewhere. His tail isn't a tiny little stub. And his clawwws. What kind of dinosaur has tiny, dull claws? If he IS going to be that big, you need to make sure every part of his is proportional, including his head. ._.; His head looks WAY too small.

I do like the quality of the art, though. c: He just doesn't have the same appeal as before.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love his snarl.

Also, I like his "chubbiness"/intense new muscular look. It makes him seem all the more huggable. Which... Perhaps that wasn't the point on the Mortiking.

...In any case, good job DNA!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ugh...I really don't like this revamp. The face looks wrong, the mouth and horns are too small, and to top it off, the new Mortiking looks likes it's obese and its neck is practically nonexistent. Nice job with the muscle tones, though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I LOVE how chubby he is! The old one was chubby too, guys, come on now.
The snarl will have to grow on me, I think, but the new art is great!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

the artwork itself is pretty, but something about the expresseion bugs me and like some people said before I think it looks chubby^^ (rather like rawr give me back my food than rawr I'll eat YOU) but still: pose and artwork look way better than before

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the detail, but it's just a bit...off. I still voted for the new one, but I was hoping the eyes would stay the same. They looked so...demented and awesome. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Just because you feel something is off on this version doesn't mean it can't be tweaked or that the original is better and deserves your vote. Don't be afraid to articulate what you feel looks off so we can try to improve this one!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I know it's safe but it's bothers me when I keep getting different links through both sites.

I'm not sure which one I like better.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't mind the chubbiness, and think it gives it more personality, but the face irks me...I think it's the mouth; it doesn't look like it stretches far back enough and looks kinda...I dunno, but it makes it look kinda dorky in the face.

also, the mark under the eye...originally it has more of a triangular appearance, but rounding it off like in this version makes him look tired more than menacing.

but I have hopes for this revamp, and otherwise the art is really good

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

He just look too mean, mean is ok sometimes, but I would not want a mean pet all the time. Granted he should not be cutesy, but maybe a little less like he wants to eat me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

DNA<script type="text/javascript">toolTip('userinfo_DNA_1', '

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December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm voting for the origional. something seems off for me on this one... :c

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

the skin is incredible looking, but i'm not too sure about this revamp

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm torn between the two versions...I love the shading of the new and the snarl it has where you see the teeth but the old one's eyes are more appealing to me for some reason. Maybe they seem more menacing or something. I kind of like the hunched pose of the old better as well. It just seems more ready to run after you or something. They're both nice though...Kudos to the artist!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i must admit i had to dig up a pic of the old one so that i could compare the two and i have to say that i like the direction the artist has taken the Mortiking in...now it's basic pose and build matches the present bloodred, galactic and glacier Mortikings...excellent work...

was wondering about the poll linking to .net too, me being on .ws and all that...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

We own both subeta.ws and subeta.net. The poll is safe.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'll agree with the comments about the new Mortiking being too chubby.

Normally I'd complain when people would call a revamp 'fat', but this Mortiking does look like it needs to shed a few.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Actually, I think its face needs to look like the Glacier Mortiking's face. Who drew this, by the way?

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