Subeta -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Keith what a lovely idea! I wish I were not on my blackberry or I would join in on the fun!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Starshadow: if it wasn't for the codes in shops it would increase the risk of hackers......capotcha code is needed these days on websites.... Its something to get used to as it won't be going away any time soon.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Nice idea but if we have to put codes in for this also I think I'll pass, it's enough nuisance in the regular shops so much that I don't RS hardly at all any more. The codes are too hard to read, maybe I'll try it again in a few days. Good luck to the rest though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Darkmatter: thats nice of you

Everyone just be patient with the free shop, give it time and it shall hopefully have been fixed.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Okay. I just got a "Brown Thank You Bear" and the process worked fine. I put in the code and it didn't ask for Sp, and I got the item.

I clicked "Back to shop", chose another item, and it started asking for Sp again...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yea, you're right. I mean, earlier on in the giveway, there were some actual "Free" items, and even now, there are some Users doing a small giveaway of their own in the DC. Heck, after I finish vending, I'm gonna dig some items outta my vault and shops that aren't selling and 'em as well to the DC.

Maybe that'll help out with what's going on for now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't get it either. If it's a free shop, stop asking for my sP.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

@ MVP = Perhaps Restockers aren't the only people with a ton of sP, but having solely Quested for nearly two years, I can safely say that Questing alone doesn't do it. Plus normally the Forum posts about making millions -are- from know Restockers.

Also while you may not have gotten everything you want, there are many who haven't been able to get anything at all.

I have to agree with MyLilLisa - "it's nice that's it's free but it's like playing a game and losing over and over again. Not fun."

So with that, I am out to partake in RL and enjoy myself.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It is a great idea...but as its in testing mode its understandable there are glitches.lets just let them patch the shop up a bit before ripping into them more over the same thing. I am sure it will be fixed soon when they are aware of the fault.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

shoot, if its already hosing up-- I am off for some tv.. It was fun being part of the testing however.. and I still scored that shirt! so Big Thanks!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sari - There is a fault with it. Its not free. You click the item, and you still have to pay for it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Seems like now, instead of just putting in the code, you now have to haggle sP for the item... and then get transferred to one of the main shops INSTEAD of back to the Free Shop! >_<

...This said even though the price of the items in the shop said "Free"... So, what's going on now, guys?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Give them something amazing and they find fault with it. :p

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Now, that I have hung out in the shop.. I do like the DC area better, its faster thats for sure.. even with the lag, you go there and items are appearing so much faster, and easier to grab. Just my two cents. I hate putting in codes too.. I always type the wrong thing or worse cant read what the heck it says..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

If this is a giveaway why does it still come up with a price? thats where I am confused.......

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

: I just wanted to point out that the RSers aren't the only ones with a huge sP amount. You said:

I do agree with the majority that this will only enable the rich to get richer. (AKA Restockers) - And I only wanted to say that the sP don't come from only sitting in front of the computer. ;D

And no - I'm not getting everything I want. I can't say how many Items I missed in the Free Shop because of invalid codes or only because it was sold out within 1 second. So...it's not only RSing skills.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

there, I've actually gotten something from donation and nothing from the free. I think it's time to work on my web page and not worry about this for now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't think anyone is expecting entitlement to free, rare items - only an equal chance at them. =/ And generally I am seeing more hostility coming from people complaining about complainers.

@ MVP - Where did I say that Restockers -didn't- work hard? o_0 Clearly there are many people that do not have the time to devote to it, nor the fast connection with which to compete. Which also explains why there is such a huge discrepancy between the average players amount of sP and the richest user.

Without the five minute wait, and with the addition of the codes, it seems that some are getting everything and many getting nothing, which is not conducive to an equal chance for all, as much as the old system was. Frankly the only issue I saw within the old system was regarding time zones...one would think that could be easily remedied, but then again I know diddly about coding. cough

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think I like the donation thing better too. I've actually gotten things from there. I've yet to get anything from this one at all. So, though it's free, I'm getting more frustration than anything.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I have to say... I don't like this method. I'm a fairly decent RSer, with a pretty good connection speed, but I still can't get anything. I've arrived right at restock, jumped on something with seven or ten in stock... and by the time I'm at the haggle page, it's gone. I used to just get some cheap plushies or beanbags at the DC, but I can't get anything out of this 'free shop'. Maybe if giveaways were switched back to the DC and sent out in batches of 3-4 thousand, instead of 20 thousand, over a day or two, that would allow people in different time zones or who are on at different times a chance to get the 'really good' stuff, while still giving us who have slower computers or reflexes a chance to get anything.

Good luck to the staff trying to make this work.

Gives up on the Free Shop and heads to the games room

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

They aren't free anymore, guys... I was going for the White Inflateable Pool just a moment ago, and it brought it up where you had to make an offer of points along with the code... Even though it said "Free" on the first page.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Maybe I'm missing something, but the Free shop deleted about 4k from my funds when I tried to get something. I have to agree with the others, I'm a much bigger fan of the donation center.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

actually, I think it's great to have this. I'm more annoyed at my connection than the site things. The house I live in has a very thick wall between my computer and the internet thing so that makes mine slow. but oh well. THey're only pixels. THough I woulsn't mind being able to get maybe one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

dear keith. you let me get the best things in the world. I love you. I love you. I LOVE the world! -screams and dashes around room- -jiggy dance-

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Windsong, the thing is that very few people are actually offering constructive criticism because that typically involves some sort of suggestion on how it can be improved. All I've heard people say is that it's unfair and such and that is not going to help Keith fix anything. I really am curious what people expect him to do though. It was in the DC already and people found problems with that, now he tried shops and people are complaining about this too. =/ He's human, unfortunately, he cant make it perfect for everyone.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love this new system. Maybe because I love to restock. It's too bad no matter what you do people are going to whine because they just want free rare stuff. Thanks, this is a really innovative idea I love it

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I am one of those who do not like the new system. I know of people getting things each rs..while I have got nothing. To level the playing field..a cool down period should apply.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

This is an awesome idea, and I have no problems with it, considering that I do like free stuff. But I do feel that the old system was better; first, you had to wait for a while before getting a new item, which prevented everything from disappearing within seconds. Secondly, you only saw 12 items at a time, which made it more even as you couldn't see all the good items at once.

I do not mean to be disrespectful in any way or to whine, but I feel that the old way was better. In any case, I'd like to thank the staff for the giveaway~

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really like the new giveaway system. More than anything I'm just happy to see that there is a new giveaway since I wasn't expecting one until at least Christmas after what happened last time. Thanks!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I wouldn't mind not getting them so much much if it didn't take half a minute just to find I didin't get it. ;P

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Agreed, MVP =)

Perhaps they system will be tweaked to increase the number of items per restock, so more people can at least get one item?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

: RSers are doing HARD work for their sP. o-O I have to earn my sP with RSing...and I RS for some hours per day. And I can say that it's not only sitting there, clicking a few times and then you have 6mil sP profit. So...the RSers aren't always the richest.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

it's nice that's it's free but it's like playing a game and losing over and over again. Not fun.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I wouldn't complain... it's fun to look for goodies... you need to look at getting things from the Free Shop as a game, not as a some sort of entitlement

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

grr. I can't even get anything because of my connection. everything just gets sold out no matter how many they are. not so fun to me at all.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It seems that some have difficulty with assuming that constructive criticism is automatically complaining. If the Staff do not know what the majority feels on any given change, then how are they ever to improve Subeta and thus acquire more members?

Now, I have a fast connection, and can even manage the odd Subeautique restock when I have the time. I clicked on 6 different items in the Giveaway and every one was sold out, so I do agree with the majority that this will only enable the rich to get richer. (AKA Restockers)

However I do appreciate Keith trying to cater all time zones and the attempt to create balance...perhaps if the codes were removed this would happen full circle for all Users equally.

Thank you to those sending items to the Donation Center, that was awesome of you and I was able to snag a Spectrum Potion, which likely wouldn't have happened in the real giveaway.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

im confused because somtimes you click on an item and it says that you need to pay for the item but I thought it was free?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

weird.... I had clicked on an item and it asked me to haggle... is this supposed to happen? I left it blank, entered the code and the shop keeper said I didn't offer enough

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I doubt the problem is ABer's actually. In my experience it took between 9 and 20 seconds for me to reload the shop. Assuming that since my connection is good its the site thats lagging, that means that when I refresh and see Restocked: Now! it could have been anytime in the past minute. Including the second where I actually clicked to refresh. Anyone that clicked before me will get the refresh before me and therefor has at least the 20 secs it took me to refresh ahead of me to shop.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Looking at how the Giveaways are done to be fair to everyone is a good idea 'but' I'm not liking this idea of giveaways either. This is just a 'testing' stage so lets hope all of our feedback will be looked into and maybe even the giveaway idea can be improved some more.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm not keen on this idea at all... = Not complaining, just saying.

I have decent internet. I can restock. But I just don't like it at all, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Best of luck to people who try to get stuff, but I'm just going to wait futilely until giveaways make their way back to the Donation Corner again.

Thanks for trying to appease everyone's wants though, Keith. Most people would have given up a long time ago.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

But I would think donation center would be a little easier on the servers, it's taking me too long to catch anything. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

my loading connection sucks butt, however i can type really fast when i need to!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

cool. I almost got something

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Thank you kind DC'ers I actually got something I wanted! Yay!

If nothing else, this shop idea spurred a lil cross-user kindness. Now for me to repay the favor and toss a few items out that way

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

They can't make a program to grab the items. You have to type in that same security code as you do for the other shops.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

ChillyKitten: The use of the word "filthy Restockers" is way harsh. No one becomes good at restocking by sitting around moaning and groaning. It takes time and patience. My advice to you: GO PRACTICE.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Moguri: I suspect people are using ABers, too... 3 secs to selling out everything? Even if there are 500 people online, not all of them are in this shop, I'd guess only 100 of them. Or Keith stocks more stuff, or hunt those who are using ABers.There's a way to detect fast from slow connections, and buying times.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Whoot.. Got the I Hate You shirt! Thats the only thing I wanted! Yeahness.. oh and I didnt see any comments or 'complaints' when I made my last post, I was just talking about the complaints last time there was a DC giveaway, and it was shut down.. I wasnt directing my comment to any posters this go around.( Just started reading the comments made here, about internet connections, )

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Whew. I think my strategy is, as soon as I've realized it restocks, just scroll down and click on something without looking at it. 'cause if I stop to go "hmm, what do I want?" I certainly won't get it. (Not to say that I'm getting it now, but at least I didn't waste any more time )

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