- I've got non-24 syndrome soit's nice that my guys are night owls. I'm frequently up all night and love to have the company. :) How is your d-9i-l doing? MY oldest was born on July 15 so I understand how she's feeling. From June 15 until the day he was born I had braxton-Hicks contractions. My water didn't break on its own, either. The doc had to break it. It's interesting how so many women are uneducated about a prime function of our bodies. I feel sorry for her that her hubby is so far away during an important phase of her pregnancy. I hope he's able to get home if/when things start to move and she finally is in labor. I bet you're rather excited, too. :D

What is non-24 syndrome?

And - Oh I am. I just wish I could go and see the baby after its born, but since they'll be moving here within a few months of that, I'll live. But with the due date July 14 and my work starting back up on July 24, if doesn't give me much time for a visit especially if the baby is late. And her mom has planned a visit for late July anyway, I don't want to overwhelm them with people. Some want visitors, some don't and you don't always know what you want until it happens....

My water broke for all 3 of mine. Before I ever felt any strong contractions. Like I would feel twinges or tightness but nothing major so I didn't think anything of it, for all 3 lol. For Shane, I remember Ryan was on the phone with his boss, I was already 9 days past the due date, and his boss was telling him "tell your wife don't go into labor now, I need you for this job this week" and I stood up to go pee and my water broke LOL So he had to tell his boss we were going to the hospital (my water broke Sunday evening, Shane was born on Monday just before noon) Katie I remember feeling antsy, but nothing like I was in labor, and then my water broke (again, when I got up to do something, probably go to bed as she was born the next day around noon). So we called his mom to come sit with Shane while we went to the hospital. She was 13 days before her due date. She was born on a Friday :) (edit haha got her mixed up with me, I was born on Sunday not her) and Nathan, was due to be induced and we had an alarm set at 530 am to go to the hospital and I got up to pee at 430 and my water broke! LOL Nathan was born on Thursday. My mom was already here to watch the kids/take them to school and she had to go pick them up and so missed his birth as he didn't get born til 407pm. I think was weird because I was "in labor" for like 12-14 hrs for each of them that I was aware of, from the point of my water breaking to them being born. And its a bit weird to have the same time frame for each kid LOL However with the younger two, I literally told the doctor the baby was coming and I had to push. For Shane, it was my first, I had no clue what was going on, and they had given me so much pain medication that I didn't even really feel the contractions let alone the urge to push. I remember clearly saying "push? Why? How? I don't know how to push" and they said "like you do to go to the bathroom" "I don't have to go to the bathroom!" LOL And then he ended up stuck and they used a vacuum extractor type of forceps thing, as well as a nurse pushing from the top of my belly, and one pushing at the base of my belly trying to get him out. He finally came out :P I know I sure didn't help as I wasn't pushing much!! I had no idea how to and like I said, didn't feel the urge. But the other two!! OH my yes. This baby is COMING AND I NEED TO PUSH!! "No don't push, wait for the doctor!!" NOPE!! I'm TRYING but the baby is COMING! :P For Katie, the midwife walked into the room right as she was about to crown and it didn't take like one more push for her to be born, and for Nathan I remember the doctor going between my room and one next door, at first he used the hallway, and then I remember him running into the room from the storage area between the rooms to literally catch Nathan and hand him to the nurse and darting back through the storage to go catch the other baby!! LOL Poor doctor.

- Wow, you had a n easy time of it, if you ask me. All of mine were c-sections. All were a hot mess, too. I wish mine had been as straight-forward as yours were. :)

Non 24 syndrome is when your body doesn't pay attention to a normal day/night rhythm. If you're up all night and sleep all day, you've got non--24 syndrome. Doc tried to give medicine to fix it and I asked him why? I already take enough medicine, do I really need one to force my body to conform tto the predominant day/night rhthm. He relented and doesn't say anything when I tell him I've been up all night for the past few weeks. (Myy body doesn't follow the natural rhythhm of being up duriing the day and sleeping at night because I can't see the changing of the time, the passage of time, ie Day turning into night. Apparently seeing the change from day to night is what triggers most people to go to bed.) :D

Ahh I see that makes sense. And yes, why take medication for it if you are ok like that?! Many people are night owls, let them be. I'd be perfectly fine for Nathan to work night shift if he wanted. He can sleep all day and I can sleep at night lol

The doctor told me after Shane was born that if they knew he was that big they'd have made me do a C-section. Thinking back I wonder wth? Because I clearly recall them saying he was around 8lbs at my ultrasound at least a week, maybe two weeks before he was due ... So umm yes you DID know he was going to be big since he was 9 days past due. Whatever. Shane, btw was 10lb 4oz at birth. Straight into 3m clothing!!

Yeah, espeically when there is no real way for me to see the transition of the sun, so I would have been on the medicine forever, not just to clear up a simple problem of not being able to sleep for a few days. XD Sometimes I think the doctors get kickbacks for however much medicine they prescribe.

My biggest was my oldest at 8lb 7oz and my smallest was my youngest at 6lb10oz For me, size didn't matter when it came to the c-sections. They found out when my first one was on the way down the birth canal that he wouldn't fit because my pelvic suture wasn't opening like it was suppposed to to let the baby out. Apparently, the stupid thing is fused in me. So, c-sections all the way. I don't think the doctors know much. Sure they have their body of knowledge but so much that the body does is unknown and I think they guess when they come up against that unknown factor. ;)

Shane was biggest 10 4 Katie was my smallest. 6 14 Nathan was 7 10. When we found out Nathan was a boy I insisted on him being induced by his due date if he didnt come on his own by then. I think his due date was like Aug 7 or something. Dr decided to induce on Aug 3 because my Dr was going on vacation the next week. Then his water broke anyway so he was gonna be born Aug 3 regardless lol I was freaked because in all my experience (family kids, friends kids) each successive child got bigger especially if they were the same gender....the last thing I wanted was Nathan to be bigger than Shane at birth!!! I swear every apt I was telling the Dr, we are inducing before his due date, right? We are NOT going past due with this baby!!! Lol

I'm glad they have their knowledge but yeah, they dont know everything!!

The funniest thing I remember about my oldest is that MAS*H was playing on the tv when he was born. I'll never forget that little bit. For my daughter, Rachel, she didn't want to come out but didn't have a choice. When I was coming out from the anesthesia I could hear a baby screaming at the top of her lungs. My ex laughed and said yes, that is our daughter you're hearing. She hasn't stopped screaming at me yet. (No, we barely get along and don't talk to esach other for long periods of time. It's a complete clash of personalities.) My youngest was born 2 months early because I went into congestive heart failure during my 6th mo of pregnancy so they took him early. I was lucky he was 6lb+ because it helped him survive. He was in the NICU for a while. It was a complete dumpster fire but he's 20 nnow and healthy as an ox. :D

Edit!! I forgot to ping you back at this comment. My bad. Several below here now too lol End edit

Haha it was rodeos for my first two. I remember Ryan watching rodeos on the TV during my labor for them Nathan I don't remember if he watched TV. I'm sure he did.

Oh goodness 2 months early and still a big boy!! I'm glad both you and he were ok in the end! I get you on the personality clash with your daughter. Some people just don't mesh...even with their own family. I'm more of a non confrontational type of person, but I want to yell at my oldest for being an idiot all the time ... Mostly I just leave him to be an idiot as it only hurts himself. Now I have concerns as he is the one having the baby and now his stupidity can affect his wife and child....

I think the funniest birth story is when a friend stopped by to get the house key(to take care of our dog) and I remember Ryan telling them how big Shane was....and I blurted out, still half drugged up, "it was the brownies" I had eaten a whole pan of brownies by myself the week before lol so yeah. It was the brownies that made the baby weigh so much rofl!!!

I owe you guys birthday gifts! Sorry I'm late, it's just reallllly been a crazy week around here. I'll get them!

SPEAKING of crazy week.. monday after VBS I took Lily for a job interview, Wednesday she got the job, today she had her first shift! So that's exciting!

VBS went really well, possibly the smoothest in the last 4 years actually.

And babies.. oof. I'll have to tell you my stories tomorrow :P You're all going ot hate me, probably.

- no worries on gifts!! :) Congrats to Lily on getting a job. Now if only Nathan would... :P Yay for VBS going smooth! I've missed being involved with kids - so I enjoyed my day as a sub. I get to do it again Monday! :D

Oh and ummm I may have done something stupid but exciting at the same time? So Anna was complaining about being lonely and alone and I just was like I'm sorry, if it wasn't so hard for you to do, I'd say just pack up and come out here instead of staying there but you can't really do that by yourself and you probably shouldn't with only 4 weeks left to go... anyway I think she decided she would rather do that than stay in Texas alone! :o So unless she changes her mind, she is planning to drive here Thursday, she has a dr apt wednesday. Umm yea. I didn't think she WOULD do that, but I guess she is that lonely and feels that much more comfortable with me? I mean, her step-mom & step-sister are only an hour away, but believe me, I know that an hour is a forever sometimes (and I have no idea how close they are but I guess they don't visit often, so not too close). So - I am seriously debating flying out there and helping her drive back as I'm a little leery of her driving 14hrs by herself!!! WITH a puppy!! I dunno. I don't even know how we'll rent a car for her? As they don't have any money so I said I would pay for it for now if that was what she REALLY wanted to do, was come out here right now instead of waiting til later. I am also debating if I fly out to her, should we just rent a Uhaul (smaller one) and bring all the small stuff we can pack instead of renting a car. That would leave only the big appliances and the bed - and honestly they're from rent-a-center - let them take it back is my thought :P Get new later. (don't need washer/dryer, fridge/couches at my house!!) Because no one will be there if she leaves, Shane won't be done with orientation for another two weeks as of right now....and if we leave the stuff, could it be considered abandoned? I worry about that because if she leaves, no one is "living" there - and they're already facing a possible eviction for lack of payment (yes because both idiots quit their jobs at the end of May remember?) And have evidently had issues with the lot rent since the beginning....ARGH. Got to love this crap. NOT!

OH! And I forgot all about to tell you the scare I got from the insurance company. So they called yesterday and asked me if I had cancelled my policy (Home owners) - NO??? Oh um well its been cancelled, let me look and see - so then the other person called me, explained a bit more about what was going on, let HER look into it (she's like the main person, the guy who called me first is who I talked to the day I went in to see if I could remove Ryan and get a cheaper quote for just me). ANYWAY they FINALLY called back hours later and said it was just somehow an error done by the underwriting or something, it was fixed, the policy is reinstated. And oh btw, can I get Ryan to sign the paper I signed that allows them to remove him from the policy? So he is coming over this morning to sign that paper sigh :P

620 DANGIT Forgot the bathhouse yesterday. Back to day one. (I was in the 40s)

edit 2pm SOMEONE KILL ME NOW PLEASE what a freaking headache. I think its settled now. I'll skip all the chaos details and just say I sent Anna money and she is renting a vehicle and driving herself out here after her dr apt on Wednesday. Whatever she wants to pack and bring for herself, the dog and the baby to come. She'll stay here til the baby is born and then they're gonna figure out from there how to get the rest of their crap out here. So I am excited and annoyed by today all at the same time LOL THREE WEEKS til DUE DATE!!

[Edit] Monday 450pm Whew. Worked today. So day 2 down. May work tomorrow, waiting to hear if the one lady has to go to jury duty tomorrow or not (she left early today to go in for reporting in) IF I'm not being lied to I'm supposed to earn $22 an hour!! Awesome!! I get paid 7.5-8.5 hrs a day depending on if I stay the whole time (til 415) or leave after cleaning up as I'm a sub. We don't get paid for lunch as it's duty free, away from the kids, so that's why it's 8.5 instead of 9 hrs for work. 715-415. Minus 30min and then minus whatever time I leave early. I've noticed the kids are usually gone by 300-310, and cleaning the room takes maybe 15min. So if I didn't stay except to clean I can be done 315-330. They lady I work with at my school who is doing the job the whole summer says they changed up what they told her in the beginning so she isn't happy and isn't even sure how much she's getting paid now. Argh. So that is why I said if I am not being lied to. We will see what comes on my paycheck!! Any extra make me happy tho!!

- Wow! That's a lot going on! Yes, we got very lucky with him being a premie and 2 months early. He's a strapping big guy now. Almost 6 ft and solid. Plus he's never been sick a day. He's got the immune system of an ox, bull, or both togeteher. 😂

omg, the iinsurance scare. I really hope it was just a mix up or something and they're not being asses and cancelling it anyways. I swear Insurance is out to get us. They have rules that no one ever tells you about then yells at you for breaking them.

I hope the sub job works out. Every little bit helps, ya know?

Are you sure she should be doing all that in her condition? I remember when I was 8 mo with al of mine and I couldn't do it. Just saying, is he pushing herseelf to get into a better living arrangement then she already has? And, if she's coming out to you is she still going to the doc where she lives? That doc won't be delivering her baby so why go? That's money out the window if you ask me. Better she set up an appt with a doc near you if she's coming your way. Is the eviction happening early? That may be why she wants out now.

Nothing new going on here. Your life is much more interesting then mine. I like that. :P :D

No I am sure the insurance is all fixed up now, they did say it was and I trust them. I've never had anything like that happen before and we've had them as our insurance company for years (probably for MOST of the time we've owned this house, which is 14 yrs now)

Honestly, I don't think the eviction is happening early, I think she is nervous about it, but they said they've talked to the landlord and he understood they've been out of work and Shane just started a new job and gets paid soon, and they will start making payments and will catch up. But I don't know if the landlord knows they planned to move here in a few months anyway.

I do know she wanted to come here before the birth because she is freaked out about being home alone and having the baby by herself. She said this Wed was supposed to be her last appointment before the baby is born anyway. Since that was the case, she decided to do the appointment THEN come out this way. We will just go to the emergency room here when its time to deliver I guess, and they'll put us up to the maternity area I guess after we get checked in. (I went in thru the emergency room with Nathan, but we were told to, since we were going in so early to be induced and then went in an hour earlier since my water broke LOL) I have NO IDEA if she's been paying money, or even seeing the same doctor each time, if she's seeing an ob/gyn or a family practitioner or an urgent care walk-in clinic doctor to be honest. I don't know if they're on Medicaid or anything, but I know they don't have insurance since they haven't had jobs in a month now. No idea if she had insurance thru fedex before that or not.

And no I'm not sure she should be driving out here this late in the pregnancy but she says she is confident about doing it and she's an adult who makes her own decisions so - yeah. Hopefully nothing happens during the trip. I am really hoping for on time baby, NOT early!! And not too late either :P Oh and she is planning on stopping in Alabama where Shane is (I think thats out of the way some but whatever) to break the trip up and that makes me feel a little better but also like, argh too because breaking it up is good but I don't think she's supposed to go to where he is for orientation and I hope that doesn't cost him the job :/ But she is only packing things that are NEEDED for the birth/baby, and stuff for her/Shane that is needed for right now, and doggy stuff, and bringing that. Then they'll get the rest of the stuff later, after he's worked and made enough $ to rent a Uhaul I guess. And I am hoping that in the meantime whatever he pays to the landlord keeps the house so that they'll HAVE that time to get the rest of their stuff :/ Her leaving it there is kind of freaking me out but if they don't tell the landlord she left, he shouldn't know and if Shane makes payments (starting Friday) they should be ok? I dunno....

No work tomorrow, but got booked for half days for the last two days of the program in July - she tried to book me for three days and I had to remind her, TWICE (during the phone call!!!) that I was ALREADY booked for the 8th. So she finally got it, and booked me for 1/2 days on the 9th and 10th - said I could go home after they got the kids down for nap because at that point its nap, snack and go home...and they're expecting to have less kids anyway - fine by me! 1/2 days are better than no days!! As you said, every little bit helps! I'd be happy if I was getting my normal $15ish per hour, so if I get $22 per hour thats great! :P I also informed her I was VERY interested in working full time next summer! :P So maybe she'll remember hahah!

Sometimes I think my life is TOO interesting hahaha I feel like a drama or a soap opera at times. I also sometimes feel I overshare, but I don't have a lot of people to share WITH - so ya'll are it!! The ladies at work get it too sometimes, and now my neighbor, but here on this board with my CCA friends has been my go-to venting/sharing spot for quite a while now :D

edit 835pm Why thank you Major Drills [item2=Snorkeling Bloodhungry Plushie] and a 800k minion ;D

- Yes, she is an adult and can make her own choices. That's not the issue. I've stared ddown the barrel of an eviction and, while it was not in texas, it was still bad. We barely got out with all our stuff and that was with the landlord being understajnding, etc. It's a messy story(aren't they all xd ) I don't want her to have trouble with the baby or with getting the rest of their stuff back. While it is "just stuff" it can hold memories and be precious to them. Hopefully, she'll pack that stuff and take it with her.

I didn't go through the ER for any of my kids. No, wait, that's not completely true. I was admitted to the ICU via the ER when I was 6 mo preg with my youngest. Thenm, after a week in the ICU, they did the c-section. So, I guess that counts? XD It was still a scary experience for me and I forget that there are those that just pop them out and go on with their day. I'm a bit jealous of those women. Honestly, I hope it all goes very smoothly for her, what ever she decides to do.

You do share more than I'm used to hearing on these forums but it's refreshing. You don't do the usual round of the weather, pet antics, and just random complaing. You present adult situations that require adult answers and opinions and I respect that. Don't stop. I'm sick of talking about the weather.

We never really went thru an eviction process. We did lose (return?) our trailer (mobile home) when we went thru bankruptcy, but found this house to rent and had enough time to move And when this house went under foreclosure, while we were renting, we were also given plenty of time to find a new place. So I've never had a risk of losing my stuff... And I don't KNOW that they are at risk of that, but just leaving it all there with no one living in the place and an eviction possible, freaks me out for them And yes it's just stuff and most can be replaced....hopefully like you said, she will bring any smaller sentimental things that matter (not sure how much they have of that as of yet) as well as things that are needed asap. But I have no real idea what she's packing up and bringing other than needed items.

Well I am glad you find me refreshing. There is only so much I can say about the weather lol!!! But I am sure I will soon have pet antics to share as my pets get used to the puppy....

I don't think I ever told you this but I have a younger sister that is just your age. I didn't grow up with her but she has now asserted her right to be in my life. Mostly via facebook. She's like the complete opposite of me so we don't always get along. Just thought you should know. lol 😂

You are refreshing. Seriously. My life is boring now as my medical issues don't allow for much drama. My kids and hubby treat me like I'm wrapped in bubble wrap and put up on a shelf, only to be brought out on special occassions and holidays. XD I enjoy hearing about you and mieke's adventures. And I'm tired of the weather. One thing I was wondering, where do you draw the lines? Do you only talk about personal experiences or do you talk about the news and world events too? I don't want to step on any toes. And, since I'm asking questions, what does CCA stand for? (Just curious. xd )

I know in Louisiana and Minnesota if they evict you and there stuff left in the house, they sell it to defray ccosts to the landlord. Like I said, I don't know about Texas. I've never ever set foot in the state. I'm sure she'll bring everything she can't do without with her. Plus, you're experienced with babies so you'll know how to help her once she gets there. I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed that she arrives at you home in one piece just tired from the drive. :D

Oh gosh Kat, quite a lot has happened in your life since I last hopped in! It's probably good she's coming to you now, but also, how scary in general! Also I had go to go weekly in the last two months of my pregnancies, so it;'s crazy to me that this was her last appointment. AND that she's just.. going to go to the ER and won't have insurance for SURE in the new state!

CCA stands for chit chat anonymous :P And we can talk about news and world events too, though sometimes we're all on different sides of things and it's hardish to move past that.. occasionally. :P

i think you have mentioned the sister a time or two and have mentioned you aren't close as you didnt grow up together.

We can talk about anything honestly, but I dont watch TV or keep up with the news so I'm not going to have much to say!! Lol And like Mieke said, sometimes some of us are on different sides of things so it can be difficult depending on the subject

I remember going in weekly too for the last month at least but eh. As I said, no idea even how often she's been to the doctor as no idea if they've had $ or insurance for it And I'm just assuming that we'll go to the ER because like, where else would you go to check in when in labor when you don't have a prior arrangement or doctor???!! As for me having knowledge about babies...for sure!! I think that is one reason she wants to be here, she knows I'll help. I will do my best to only help as much as she wants. I miss having babies and will want to do all I can do but SHE will be mom and I have to let HER take the lead (which I sometimes wonder if I'll be able to do that with them living in my house loI will want to step up/step in and help!! But I will do my best not to!!)

And yes , chit chat anonymous lol when we started the cca there was like I guess like 10 of us who chatted regularly...most now don't come to chat anymore and some read and rarely comment.... But we know there are lurkers !!!! Waves to the lurkers we love you guys lol 😂

Oh yeah, I do remember hearing about the sister once or twice too!

I think it'll definitely be hard for you to not just.. do things, and let them do them. Kind of like when the kids are toddlers, and you know the easiest and best way, but you have to sit and wait 45 minutes for them to do it :P

Yes exactly Mieke!! Thats my thought. I will want to step up and help/do things as I know how to do but they have to have the chance to learn how to do/deal with it!! I'm more than willing to help should she ask but it will be hard for me to not just step in sometimes!!

Ok, I wasn't sure if I had mentioned her before. :)

Oh, there's no way I could keep from butting in if/when she needed help. I know that she needs to learn but I just wouldn't be able to let the poor little thing suffer while they figured out what to do. Is she the type to ask for help or just let the little one cry until you ask her if she needs help? I hope she's the type that knows when to ask for help if needed.

Thanks for letting me know what CCA stands for. Itt was driving me crazy. I promise, I will try not to step on any toes with the subjects I bring up. :D

And like mieke, I had doc appts every week untilI had my kids.So, it's worrying to me that she's just willing to pick up stakes and move at the last minute to a state where she doesn't have a doc familiar with her medical history or insurance. Yeah, you can just go to the ER but how much is it going to cost her? If she gets medicaid after the fact will it cover the birth? :D