I think some of the item prices are a bit ridiculous and need to be re-evaluated, namely some of them not-godly weapons. Like who's going to pay 750m for a when they could buy a few different godlies for that (including a MW which does more of the thing than the CTC does)? Not to mention it was in the cruise shop for waaaay less than that.

Same for the or ... those prices are absurd for what those weapons do. The item art is fantastic (I was really hoping to be able to afford the Siren Dagger to go with my Harp for a TC) but not for that price, ever.

However most of the prices are okay. The one's that were cheaper in the shop search were due to being hustled, which no one seems to be mentioning just that it was cheaper before-- why is a huge factor in that, otherwise NONE of these items would be around in user shops what so ever. I do feel like staff should have gone through and price-checked items though, and if nothing else bought up everything that was cheaper so this wouldn't be held as a torch or anything.

Also, for the record, this HAS already effected the price of csc. yesterday I sold 500 for 24m, and earlier today it was at 21m. Yeah, it is climbing up again but there's a lot more under/around 25m right now than has been in shops for 29m+ in weeks. If the prices of the antique shop were lowerish (most things 75m and under) I do imagine it'd have made a bigger impact as there's be more things people were willing to sell csc to buy.

I hope going forward the amount of things selling from this round and prices are tweaked to work as a solid sP sink because the more of that that's removed from the game the more it's going to be worth and the more csc prices are going to come down finally.

At least that Rogue...character thing is no longer alive to steal our stuff. Ohman, imagine if that actually DID still exist. :D

In any case, I apologize for my unwarranted behavior.

(and other staff)

Why not offer a compromise? Most of the users are unable to buy the items and won´t be able to do so in the future. Why not offer a special quest to gain them? Invent another game, endeavor or story to attain them. Perhaps a long and tiresome trasure hunt? Or a mean battle quest with lots of frightening opponents?
Would be more fun and less depressive (:

Siren Dagger

562,500,000 sP

Don't get me wrong I like the idea of the Antique Shop and I'm happy to know that one day I'll get my Brarko but some prices are just ridiculous.

User's don't need to obtain things easily, or be given everything on a silver platter.

This isn't Pre-K, if someone wants something they can work for it. If I REALLY wanted that Dagger, I'd work for it, however it's a weapon. And as a weapon, it's price should be about 100m on the high end-- for that, I'd probably sell the csc to buy it. Most items have a value based on what they are/how desirable they are-- if there was a 500m wearable, people wouldn't buy it either (how many non-battlers do you see wearing hook swords or natashas?).

The price tag of a collectible item (book, plushie, beanbag, sticker) is whatever staff want it to be because people aim to finish these things and really the only prices that are mind boggling are the weapons (outside of the gods, those are fine where they are).

If it doesn't change, that's fine. No one needs to own everything ever and Leviathan can survive with just his harp. I am glad there's a few things that I can finally get my hands on, though, ;u;!

Question - Are the prices actually based on point amount? I could have -sworn- I traded a bombastic captain hat for a sunset island ponytail because they were the same point price, I was a pirate, and had a big thing for wigs at the time.

Yups, they're based on point amounts. Bombastic Captain Hat was 1000 points and Sunset Island was...much cheaper. It was more expensive because we had more pirates, so islander points were worth more, but not that much more.

We had an alternate way to gain them that was not easy. The original islander/pirate war was not something you could get thousands of points easily, and you could only buy from one shop, not both. I had 11 111 points on the pirate side and I could buy all I wanted from that side, but on the islander side, I had 0 points. Took me years to find a coconut slush seller.

I'm not okay with these items being just handed out and devalued by quests. The reason why the items are THIS expensive is because staff don't want hundreds to get out at once.

They were based off of points. And the was definitely a lot more points than the . That ponytail was almost worthless at the time because so many people could afford it and bought it. The hat always retained a fairly high value.

The problem is that now you have to work way harder than during the plot. I did the math. It would take me 3 whole years to get one of the godly weapons. That is if I do all of the quests, sell every item, get the salary of my pets (and don´t miss a single day) and don´t buy anything else. For 3 years. And we are talking about ONE item. Just ONE.

What you had to do cannot in the slightest compare to this. Sorry, you won´t make me believe that. Spending more time than 200days/24hours on Subeta for one single item is way too much effort. And I´m one of the users that make sp really fast without selling csc.

I'm not okay with these items being just handed out and devalued by quests.

That was just an example. I´m not okay with the items being handed out too easily either. But there should be a way for users to attain them that don´t want to miss working, eating and sleeping for many years. Why not a new plot? A new battle? Or something else. Be creative about it.

Work harder than during the plot?

I'm going to be honest. During the plot, you wouldn't have been able to win a god weapon. You really wouldn't have.

You don't have the pet to go and farm Kahazawhatever was his name, or Captain Jacques on Steroids. Multiple times. In a short time.

Having to spend 3 years saving up for one is better than never getting one.

So yes. The plot was harder than saving 3 billion. I stand by this point.

That one item is also a godly weapon and almost no one got them back when you seem to think it would have been easy. It's also hugely more expensive in the shop than the next step down. That same amount of three years worth of earning would buy you most of the rest of the shop so it's really not a good comparison.

I'm going to be honest. During the plot, you wouldn't have been able to win a god weapon. You really wouldn't have.

That´s your opinion. We won´t ever find out, will we?

And I´m repeating myself: That´s just ONE item. It does not have to be the godly weapon. Please, do the math. The plushies alone cost more than a years worth of saving. More than a billion. Someone who wants to complete the collection (like me) is forced to not buy anything else and is forced to spent more than 5-6 hours on Subeta every fucking day to have a chance! And noone has such a lot of time. It´s just not possible. Therefore you have to work even longer than one year to gain the plushies, even longer than three years for a godly weapon. Please be realistic.

No, that option is not better than having no chance at all. It is exactly like this: https://www.colourbox.de/preview/4179498-pig-on-a-donkey.jpg

I don't know how many Wraths went into the system, but I don't think there were more than 5-6 users who could get the sword, the top scorer had enough points to buy 2.

But yeah, you're 100% correct.

Using the direct to collection option, you cut the prices by half for the plushies. I think all of them are like...200M when using direct to collection? Probably way less?

Besides

You're not at the point where you need to get the retired plushies to increase your collection. Don't focus on them unless you HAVE to. And yes, it's going to be in a couple months/years from now anyway. Because you're far from the point where you NEED them from your collection.

You will EVENTUALLY need them, it's true. But right now, there are 2000 plushies you need more.

ou will EVENTUALLY need them, it's true. But right now, there are 2000 plushies you need more.

Sorry, that is not an argument. Me needing other plushies as well does not negate the fact, that the amount of time you have to spend on Subeta every day is an irresponsible effort and extremely over the top.

Please, please, please. Don´t let greed blind you to that fact.

And it's not greedy to ask for items that were released in a certain way, items that demanded a fair bit of effort to be won, to just be given via quests.

Not everything is going to be easy, and you'll find out that there are plushies that are way more annoying to get than these ones, who are now in unlimited supply, at a stable price. (HI REFERRAL SHOP)

Pretty much, if it's too hard, or too challenging for you right now, you were not the audience staff had in mind for that shop. Staff did not make that shop for everyone, it was not meant to be Subeautique-except-with-plushies.

It was meant to get a handful of extinct items back in the system.

No, it´s not greedy to ask for a realistic chance to the get the items. Im not asking to get them for free or even for a realistic price. I´m asking for an alternative (games, quests, plot... whatever) and this alternative should be as hard as the pirate/islander plot. As I already told you about the quests: just an example. And quests don´t have to be shopping for an NPC and getting an item in return. Quests could be whole endeavors. I see those items as a chance to work on new ideas, expand the site (if possible)

You are interpreting my words completely wrong. There aren´t only two extremes (extremely expensive or extremely cheap). There could be a middle ground.

Pretty much, if it's too hard, or too challenging for you right now, you were not the audience staff had in mind for that shop.

That begs the question: WHO is the audience for the items? A mysterious elite consisting of maybe 4-6 users that have the sp? As we have seen they won´t buy the items. If those users are the audience you speak of then the shop backfired spectacularly.

It was meant to get a handful of extinct items back in the system.

Why bring them back when noone wants to have them anymore?

It is really not that hard to make sp on subeta. Aside from quests, you forgot vending but also restocking which can be done and with a few buys you get a buff to save you even more. You also have a few games. Plus purchasing a ga will not only pay for itself but also give you profit as autopricer is an awesome tool. Plus with a ga you can vend some more. Just purchase some cheap wizard tokens, vend and sell.

But this is the alternative that is as hard as the pirate/islander plot!

Because the islander/pirate plot was HARD to get points in. You said an elite of 4-6 people, well this is pretty much how many people got either GOD WEAPON. There were less than 10, altogether, on the market.

I´m already doing all this. As I told : Earning the sp is not the problem but the time effort. You have to spend an irresponsible amount of time on Subeta every day for many years. Spending more than 5-6 hours earning sp every day is not healthy.

>But this is the alternative that is as hard as the pirate/islander plot!

And I tell you again: It´s not. It´s much harder, much more effort and quiet unhealthy. And the chances to succeed are much smaller because most of the users have enough sense not to attempt it.