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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Bella

It is unfair though. If there are 10 total winners, winners 7-10 should be the ones who ranked 7-10 total votes, regardless of what kind of item it is.

I don't see why face items should hold priority over any other item that got more votes than them.

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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Piety

Because people wanted them, and you're just assuming that those 7-10 are not the same as those 4 facial features o.O But from the sounds of it most people voted for at least a few facial features each. So I'm willing to bet that if the selection had been weened down a bit more, there would've been a few in the top 6 to begin with and they're likely very close if not exactly 7-10 so again it doesn't really matter. Now if you think your item might've been rest assured, you weren't going to win anyhow because only 6 winners were chosen to begin with :).

Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Bella

I don't think my item was going to be anything, because I submitted a junk entry just to get the participation prize. And yes I am assuming, and I've already told you why I assume what I assume. Like I said, if staff can confirm that these face item winners were indeed the next in line to win, I will shut up. Congrats to staff and the winners. And as for "because people wanted them", I'll say it again: boo hoo. I want a lot of things.

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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Piety

and wanting to know what item got voted -10 is one of those things you want so "boo hoo"?

I'ma bow out now though, that's a bit ridiculous.

Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Bella

Exactly. Because I want to see if this contest was actually fair or not.

We'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose. 😔

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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Piety

I don't see how the 6 most voted for wearables overall, and the next 4 top facial features, winning, can be perceived as anything but fair. It matters not if they were 7-10 or 11-15. Staff SPECIFICALLY said they weren't sure how many winners there was going to be. Users said, 6, we want more, we want facial features for (insert tons of reasons, including there was a ton of very good ones), staff said okay okay you get what you want you, vocal protesters, you! Seems pretty fair...

Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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One other possible factor in picking only facial features is that several of the non-face items that didn't win are now being released as CWs. If any of those items were numbers 7 – 10, it could make things a bit complicated (especially if they've already been submitted to the CW queue or approved).

Anyway, I'm glad there are more winners, regardless of the item type. None of the eyes or mouths I voted for made it, but these are great, too (that bunny is perfect for one of my pet's TCs).

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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Bella

The contest was assumed to be about overall votes and ranking to determine winners. If the post introducing the next new winners had just said "you guys wanted more winners so here's the rest!" and they all happened to be face items, I wouldn't have said anything or given it another thought.

But the fact that it was said categories are going to be for next contest, not this one, and then all of a sudden "here's the winners of the face category!" I'm just like "what? what face category? you didn't say anything about categories in this contest." That's why I'm suspicious that there could have been different overall winners than the face ones.

Fine then. I'll go with it, there's the winners of the new face category that didn't exist until now. But where the rest of the background winners, wig winners, etc?...

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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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Precious Angel

Sorry for the ping hon, but would you be willing to inform us as to whether or not the winning CWs are in the shops to stay permanently, or are they there just until the end of the Pandemic this year, please? :)

Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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I'm really really glad to see we got the 4 more items in the end, and I hope going forward the number of votes we get is going to be-- if nothing else-- the MINIMUM amount of winners we'll have? Like if there's 10 votes and man items and lost by just a few votes then yay even more winners, but there should be at least 10.

Especially since the amount of items to vote on was a lot higher than the first time (understandable), and I imagine next time there will be even more.

I'm probably biased on the facial items, because I did in fact vote for 3 out of the 4-- and I am curious as to what the other 4 top items had been if not the facial items, but facial items or not I'm really just glad the number of items we got matched the number of votes.

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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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I will just have to echo what people have been saying here and on the news post. Most of these complaints could have been avoided if only we were allowed to submit the non-winning entries (facials and otherwise) as CWs. You know, especially since staff already spent paid time reviewing all the art -- doesn't make so much sense to have to discard/shelve them when they could be generating revenue and preventing complaints.

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Feb 24, 2015 11 years ago
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I agree about being allowed to submit them as regular CWs afterwards.

As for the uneven shop distribution, I don't really see how that's unfair if the spooky/zombie type items did in fact receive more votes than the pretty/valentine's type items. Isn't that the whole point of having everyone vote?

Although I guess maybe they could have split the categories and given everyone 5 votes for each category? Something like that.

Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago
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Precious Angel

That's exactly what I said in the news post comment here:

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To clarify my comment: it&;s an 8-2 ratio for the Zombie Den. It just doesn&;t feel right. 10 items in total chosen. Should&;ve had 5 in each shop. It&;s not fair to the L&;Amour Parlour artists that submitted designs for there. For sake of argument: 33.3% of the population love all Louis items. 33.3% of the population love all Skitters items. Then there&;s 33.3% of the population that love both (I fall under there).</p>
<p>Can&;t change things now, but if this happens again next year for both Louis L&;Amour&;s and Skitters&; shops, I think it&;d be only fair that there would be two separate voting areas. One completely dedicated to the L&;Amour Parlour and one to the Zombie Den, each with their own respectable finalist items to choose from and vote on. That way there&;d be an even amount of items for each shop instead of there being a majority going to one over the other.</p>
<p>There were so many fabulous items for both shops that it really should&;ve happened this way this year (each shop having their own voting area), but que sera sera.

It would've been way more fair.

- Agreed. I think it's high time that eyes, mouths, noses and other facial features were allowed as CWs anyway. I don't know why items for AROUND the eyes are allowed but not the eyes themselves. Isn't the positioning just as important? I don't understand it.

Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago
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Quote by Wolf_Spirit
For sake of argument: 33.3% of the population love all Louis items. 33.3% of the population love all Skitters items. Then there&;s 33.3% of the population that love both (I fall under there).

Except that you're making those number up, and the Skitters items won because they received more votes. That means more people liked the Skitters items, so it's totally fair that more of those won.


Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago
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Live and learn and I suppose hindsight is always best. I do appreciate that when users complained there were too few winners -- esp. face items, staff responded with more winners/face items. I also think staff deserve credit for such a quick response. So…. THANK YOU!

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Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago Official
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Taco

They are staying around :)

Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago
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Precious Angel

Thank you so much! <3 :)

Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago
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It would be nice to see the number of votes for each one. I was hoping more of the softer items would win that are used throughout the year and backgrounds, too. I did not vote for any of the winners listed nor did my daughter. The ones we voted for were really nice, imho.

Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago
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Quote by Wolf_Spirit
It&;s not fair to the L&;Amour Parlour artists that submitted designs for there.

So you think it would be fair to give items that didn't get the most votes a win just because the it the L'Amour Parlour theme?

If the contest had specified in the beginning separate pools (Here are the Skitters entries - vote for 10/ Here is L'Amour - vote for 10) then that would be fair, but to penalize both the users who drew the spooky items and the users who voted for them doesn't make sense

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Feb 25, 2015 11 years ago
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I'm really pleased that we got some awesome facial features but I'll add to the calls for allowing facial features as CWs

Seriously I've seen some amazing cw eyes. Although I like the eyes the official subeta artists put out, I'd really love to have more eyes to work with that are slightly different but within acceptable style limits.

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