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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Genevra
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I enjoy this site. I do. But when I'm doing the quests and either get or have to buy things like Chunky Diarrhea Dog or Runny Nose Pizza or other horrific, disgusting, and in my opinion inappropriate things, it is really, really off-putting. I do not find fecal material, pus, mucus, fingernails and other bodily waste or parts to be an enjoyable part of the game. It also is really at odds with the rest of the game, except for the zombies. Not a fan of those either, but everyone loves zombies these days. Nothing like a rotting corpse, I guess. And presumably some people enjoy those "food" items or they would not exist. But would there ever be some way to opt out of ever seeing these abominations? For those of us with weak stomachs, strong imaginations, or just a lack of interest in consuming fecal material, consider some way to block these things? I'd really like not having to dread doing quests in case those items pop up.

Please note: reading the thread is recommended, as the person below me pointed out that a filter is an awful idea. I readily conceded that it was and it evolved from there. Then it devolved rapidly. Enjoy....

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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Speiro
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I'm not a huge fan of most of those items either, but I don't think this is feasible. Would blocking these items mean that quest givers don't ask for them or give them out as rewards, and that you can't see them restocking in shops? Because that kind of thing would alter the game in a way that could probably be abused. An online game like Subeta can't really work if players are able to choose custom item pools to play with like that.

You could always block the images with an adblocker extension for your browser. That's entirely on your end, and is something you can actually control. The items will still show up as you play the game, but you won't see their images. The names and descriptions can't be blocked though, as far as I know. It's not ideal, but if it's that much of a problem for you it's definitely an option.


Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Terra
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I agree with you about these items. I don't find them cute or funny and I wish I didn't have to look at them. I can ignore them sometimes, but every once in a while I'll see them pop up during a quest and cringe a little. That being said, I don't think a filter is a feasible option for the reasons that stated.

I think it would be nice if the random gross out food that stocked in the regular food stores moved over to the zombie shops. Like, why does Poopy Peanut Butter stock in the Food Market? Wouldn't the Mouthy Muffin be better suited to Half Baked? I feel that items like these are out of place compared to the rest of the stock from their respective stores.

Also, I don't know if it's really possible, but it would be nice if the current quest givers stopped asking for and giving out these items. (Except Pete?) Perhaps instead, there could be a quest giver in the Underground that asked for zombie specific items. (Things from Half Baked, The Lost Skeleton, The Philosopher's Store, Underground fish, maybe some of the cheaper stuff from the Zombie Den.) This way the items are still in circulation but are easier to avoid since they're localized to a certain spot.

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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Ciannwn
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Quote by Terra
I think it would be nice if the random gross out food that stocked in the regular food stores moved over to the zombie shops. Like, why does Poopy Peanut Butter stock in the Food Market? Wouldn&;t the Mouthy Muffin be better suited to Half Baked? I feel that items like these are out of place compared to the rest of the stock from their respective stores.

I agree and support this idea. The items don't bother me (just as well because my pets love gross food) but I can understand how off putting they are to a lot of people.

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Also, I don&;t know if it&;s really possible, but it would be nice if the current quest givers stopped asking for and giving out these items. (Except Pete?) Perhaps instead, there could be a quest giver in the Underground that asked for zombie specific items.

I support this idea as well. Pete isn't a zombie so there's no reason why he would want to eat zombie food, especially as some of it seems to be made from bits of humans. The Underground quest giver should be open to all, though, even if the quester isn't wearing a zombie skin. New players won't have a zombie skin until the next Survival.

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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Terra
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Haha, yeah, I'd say most of that stuff is made from human or human... by-products. There's no reason for any non-zombie humans to eat it. Cannibalism is taboo in most places for a reason. People are generally put off by excrement for a reason. So many diseases! Eating food from the Underground would make living humans sick or dead. :P

But game mechanics-wise, Pete is all about food and dropping two whole shops from his repertoire seemed a bit drastic...

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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But game mechanics-wise, Pete is all about food and dropping two whole shops from his repertoire seemed a bit drastic...

If we had Pete and an Underground quest asking for zombie food items it's likely that they'd end up very inflated. Pete's page could just have the wording changed a bit so he says - "I adore it so much, in fact, that I want all of the human food in Subeta."

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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Skolletta
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I think you (general you!) should try ad-blocking item images you personally don't like (I do for some of the blinky ones like keiths bottled angst - they do my head in) as that's easy to do by yourself and is very customisable depending on your personal tastes.

I do support moving the poopy foods across to the zombie shops as having those in the main shops is gross and weird.

I don't like the idea of removing zombie foods from general circulation though. When you can adblock the images, what's the harm in keeping them around? They're part of the site whether you like it or not and making a whole new quest giver just for them will take time and resources from other areas.

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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Genevra
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, you're right about the "custom pool" thing. I hadn't thought about that. I sadly have to agree with you on it. However, , your idea is an excellent one. Keeping zombie food with the zombies means that zombie enthusiasts can enjoy it, but makes the world safe for people who don't enjoy those things. Though, I am with on leaving Pete out of the zombie food. I know, he'd lose two shops. But that stuff isn't really food. Don't think of it as losing shops, but as adding years of well-being to his life! And how hard do you cringe when you had him a Chunky Diarrhea Dog and he says he can't wait to sink his teeth into it...omg sorry. I hope no one reading this has just eaten. The problem isn't just the image. The images aren't that horrible. It's the names/descriptions.

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Terra
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I hadn't thought about how it might cause inflation... :|a In fact, the theoretical Underground quest giver may need to diversify. Anything related to zombies, darkness, and the dead? Oh! Quentin's prizes might be good fodder as well!

I don't feel like this is removing them from general circulation. They're still available for purchase in zombie shops and there would still be a quest giver dealing with them. From what I've heard, quests are always being monitored and prizes adjusted when the staff feel the need. For example. I think the amount of items given out was reduced in the past few months. I don't think a new quest giver and a reallocation of certain items given/received would be so much of a time and resource drain that it shouldn't ever even be considered...

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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I don't like this Suggestion. Quests are not a requirement. Don't like what one asks for? Skip it. There are folks who skip quests for financial reasons but I never do, and you would be skipping them for aesthetic ones.

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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Quests are not a requirement. Don&;t like what one asks for? Skip it.<br />

People who have problems with these items would still see them when quests ask for them. The idea behind this topic is restricting them to Underground. This would mean that nobody is required to restock from the zombie shops or do a zombie quest - anyone who feels ill at the sight of these items can happily forget they exist.

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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Skolletta
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You can't access the descriptions without the images unless you look them up elsewhere or if you deliberately click on them in your inventory.

This whole topic is about removing a subset of items from certain people's view entirely. In my view, that's removing them from circulation, if only quest circulation, as that's where restockable items are used the most bar collections or TCs.

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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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This whole topic is about removing a subset of items from certain people&;s view entirely. In my view, that&;s removing them from circulation, if only quest circulation, as that&;s where restockable items are used the most bar collections or TCs.

A specialised quest for zombie foods in the Underground wouldn't be removing them from circulation because anyone on the site could restock at the zombie shops and do the quests. All it would do is give people who hate the sight of these items the opportunity to avoid them.

It's not like we're suggesting that the zombie food shops go the way of the Graveyard shop so we only get zombie food items from the Underground quest giver.

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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Junior Archaeologist
Bison
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This really isn't feasible in any way for staff to take care of.

If you can't stand the item images, Adblock them. If the names bother you, find one of those browser add-ons that changes words. I don't know the names of any off the top of my head but there's at least a few. You'd probably run into issues questing if you did both of these things together, though its up to you to decide how much you personally need blocked. Maybe some issues questing would be worth the tradeoff to you.

(You is general, of course)

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Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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said it better than I could.

It'd say it's a little more than aesthetic reasons. Haha.

Also, each of the quest givers has an area of interest. Cinthia likes toys, Maleria likes weapons and spell ingredients. There's a bit of consistency in what they ask for. It doesn't make sense for most of them to ask for zombie food when that kind of thing would make a living human sick. The ones that might be exceptions (Maleria? ...Quentin?) don't ask for that kind of stuff anyway. Subeta has always had a strong story aspect. (Writers on staff, plots that affect the world, all the lore in the Subetapedia.) You could say it's just fantasy, but even fantasy needs some internal logic to keep things grounded and relatable.

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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I dislike those items (and zombies too) I try just to not look at them and think about it. But if I do I kinda want to hurl. I am not sure what a good solution would be but I would love if you good block them or something. But I guess I could install ad block.

Kudos to the artists though that they can come up with stuff that we dislike so much though!



Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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Quote by ShortAxel
If the names bother you, find one of those browser add-ons that changes words.

This would be my suggestion, too. Generally, they only let you change single words, rather than whole phrases, but it's better than nothing. If does mean that you'd have to go through and find the items and words that bother you the most, which is probably more interaction than you'd want, but it'll be worth it in the long term.



Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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I have a friend in real life that's scared of zombies. She refuses to watch The Walking Dead because of that fear, but that's the thing, she blocked it herself. She just won't watch or read anything related to zombies.

I think this is something that should be done personally, via an ad-blocking software on the user's end and not be the responsibility of the site personally.

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
Genevra
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So by that logic, I should not be on this website, then, because eating feces is cool with most people. Ok.

Dec 13, 2016 9 years ago
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Bison
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If it bothers you to that degree... then yes. Its up to you to decide what kinds of things you do or don't want to see and then respond accordingly.

Its no secret that Subeta has plenty of gross items of all types. Food, minions, pets, wearables, even avatar skins. There are so many different categories that could be upsetting or gross to people. Plus there are even more seemingly harmless thing (like dog-related items and pets) that can cause issues for people.

It is not Subeta's job to keep track of what bothers people and make a literally countless number of filters to accommodate thousands of people. That would take so much time and money to do for no reason. Users can already control these sorts of things with commonly used third party things like Adblock. It may not be your ideal solution but its a fairly easy way to deal with these issues if you're visiting Subeta on a computer. All it takes is your time to block the items you don't want to see, the same thing you're asking of staff.

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