I think once you get into a viewpoint of, I don't like this so let's filter it then it sets a very dangerous precedent, because almost anything could offend someone or be disliked by someone on site.
My view on this is pretty much what ShortAxel pointed out, in that if something is filtered from view completely because someone dislikes it or finds it offensive then, what's not to say that something else on site won't offend someone else and then they petition to get it filtered.
I don't consider it Subeta's job to specifically go out of their way to keep track of everything that bothers users on site and then filter it because of that dislike. So, yes I do consider it the responsibility of the user. A user can still choose to not view those items via ad-blocking software.
Regarding the matter, while I agree it isn't the most classy thing ever it's not something dangerous either (not talking about trigger here). If Subeta started to ban items portraying bugs, spiders, vomit, pus, mucus, blood, flashing colours, holes in the very gross type, poop and basically everything that may trigger someone ... there would be a lot of stuff taken away. I like zombies, I don't mind a lil gore and a lot of people collect these items. I don't say you don't belong here but Subeta is a free game for a big userbase. It's nearly impossible to please everyone. It has been suggested already but Adblock is your friend. Of course it blocks only the item and if you still want to fullfill some quests ... it's probably the best way.
I agree with previous comments, here.
I don't eat meat, so all the pictures of meat and the names and descriptions of foods containing meat on the site are really disgusting. Meat isn't food IMO and it's super inappropriate considering what these items stand for. I think we should be able to opt out of seeing these items/have some way to block them.
Do you see how that could spiral out of control really quickly? Anybody could have a problem with any type of item. It's just extremely impractical. I think the browser add-on suggestions are your best bet. You only have to see the item for 2 seconds while you shop search anyway, it's not like a toenail hot dog is coming into your bedroom at night.
Oh well, I liked the idea of an Underground quest but it would be a lot of extra work for staff. I still think the poop items in the main food shops should go Underground, though. Might be a bit of a problem with the Poop Taffy because The Lost Skeleton and Half Baked don't stock candy.
...I never said that it "triggered" me. I never said it should be banned. I did, however, say that that stuff exists for a reason because some people are just into that, along with zombies and whatever else. Fine for them. I just think that foods with blood, puss, mucus, fingernails, human flesh, and excrement are gross and that it would be nice if I didn't have to look at them. I foolishly assumed that enough people would share that viewpoint that it might be worth mentioning. After it being pointed out that a filter is a bad idea, I readily conceded that I'd been wrong about that idea. Some others chimed in with alternatives to that, which could be quite viable. That's all. I have never encountered a site or game where offal is offered as food. And I never expected to be arguing over whether poo is a proper food. So, I'm done here, then.
I'll just say that there's something haywire about a community that'll enthusiastically support the notion that "Subeta should have agendered pets" and shrug at the notion that "We shouldn't feed pets poop".
Gender is a much more complex (and much more human) construct than digestion -- and the one of these that should be a no-brainer for the community, isn't.
Meh.
I think it's more against censorship than the items in general. Yes, the items are probably in bad taste but I view them as being either joke items or catering to the idea they're zombies, they eat zombie things.
I'm against the idea of censoring either by filtering or by relegation to having it be hidden to a certain area of the site, quest or otherwise in general though. I don't like the idea of having stuff/items on site be censored in general when I think it's more the user's responsibility to censor and not the site's.
I think the most disgusting thing about it is Pete asking for food made with human bits. Maybe his name should be changed to Hannibal Portly. :D
A few things here:
Why is gender identity being brought up?? That has literally nothing to do with anything in this thread and the only reason anyone would bring it up is to start something. Ridiculous.
Neopets has gross foods (as well as poop items) so Subeta isn't the only site that has them. Pretty sure I've also seen some gross/spooky foods on other websites as well. Gross stuff is usually fun for kids so it's not surprising to see gross items on a pet site, even though Subeta's target audience is older than most other pet sites'.
Some people are more sensitive than others and, to some extent, that's fine. However, no, people don't always need to accommodate those who are more sensitive. If you're grossed out by something then in one-on-one conversations people should be more willing to accommodate you. On an entire website? No, especially when it's something silly. I find the gory, poopy, etc. items gross as well so I do my best to ignore them. I'll finish a quest involving them quickly and get rid of the items as fast as I can. I never feed them to my pets. I wouldn't ask Subeta to create a filter so I didn't have to ever see the items though because it's my own personal problem so it's up to me to find a solution. If the items bother me a lot I can just block the images. Yep, it would take time to block every single one but again it's my own problem. I think more people should think like that and take responsibility rather than constantly asking others to accommodate their very specific problems.
I'm not a fan of the gross foods either. I don't know if you can try to do what I've done; all those foods, they're fake. I don't mean in the pixel fake way. I mean they're made to look gross but are just perfectly fine foods. Image those cakes decorated to look like breakfast foods or hamburgers. That was the only way I could get around having to feed my gourmand pet those foods. He was only eating a fresh, perfectly fine red velvet cake that just happens to look like brains.
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This site is pg-13, so I gather. That, de facto, means that it is already censored. I suppose that you should rally for a completely uncensored Subeta, then. ....reading comprehension. Reading comprehension. I already said, twice, that the filter idea was bad. Ok? Stay with me here. I also said I personally had not encountered sites/games with this type of thing. I didn't say it didn't exist. Never been on Neopets, so I will take your word for it. I did not suggest any of this with the idea that the site should cater to me. As previously stated, I falsely assumed that there would be other people that might be interested in the idea. If I believed it was my problem alone, I would never have mentioned it. I never thought that it was, quote, my "very specific problem" And yes, that is what I do too.
Am I seriously being hinted at that I don't belong here because I don't like food made of pus and feces? I do NOT appreciate being told that I am oversensitive, am "triggered", am not welcome all because I proposed an idea that should have been fairly straight-forward (not the filter...see above). It's not a phobia, a trigger, a "very specific issue"... I am utterly gobsmacked by how polarizing the issue of eating human flesh and waste products is.
The site needs to be pg-13 to comply with COPPA in the US as that's the minimum age under COPPA to not require parental consent and not require restrictions put into place for under 13 members. That's the law, and something all internet sites need to follow.
Am I against censorship in real life, actually yes, though it's very much dependent on what's being censored, when, and where it's being censored. The site operates as PG-13 because of its items/its content and because it's just easier to adhere to COPPA laws by just making it a straight-forward pg-13 so the site, as a whole, legally doesn't have to deal with complying to COPPA age-restriction laws on what can and cannot be allowed/viewed dependent on age.
I am however against unnecessary censorship within the site age limit boundaries which is what I view filtering or hiding quest items/relegating/tying them to a specific quest simply so they don't have to be viewed as.
The Lost Skeleton and Half Baked are located Underground but they aren't exactly hidden because they are included in the Shop List widget. If there was an Underground quest for zombie food added to the site, the link to the quest would show up on the Quests widget.
PS - Quentin just asked me for an Abwubble. This quest item can only be obtained from the Underground Spring. As there's no direct link to the Underground Spring one could say that these quest items are sort of hidden.
No. And no on the filter. Doesn't Maleria already ask mostly for dark-ish items? Just use adblock like everyone else says, or just deal with seeing stuff you don't like every now and then. Quests are a big reason people buy items. If pete and everyone else doesn't ask for that stuff, the price on them is going to go down and mess up the market.
Are the poop/corpse/zombie/bodypart items gross? Yes.
Can the images be freely adblocked with Adblock, uBlock, etc.? Yes.
Can the offending text be filtered out with FoxReplace, Word Replacer (Chrome), Search and Replace (Chrome), etc.? Most likely yes.
You have the tools at your disposal, you only need to use them to make your own browsing and gaming experience more enjoyable.
All that aside, I really doubt there will be a legitimate filter for this, in any shape or form. I mean, it's been 8 years and there have been some complaints, but the fetus items are still present, still unchanged and still liked by a large part of the userbase. The users that are grossed out by some items (or pets) are better off taking it into their own hands than waiting for an official filter.
I'm not sure how plausible this would even be for the site to set up, and there are countless things I'd rather see happen first.
I'm sure it's been suggested a dozen times already, but just use adblock.
To add my two cents, I too find the items fairly repulsive, and I find zombies really quite silly, but that is my issue, and I find I can overlook those items with relative ease. They don't show up that often in quests, really, I do all of mine daily and it is minimal.
And if I might, gods know I shouldn't, but if you would like to get into reading comprehension, no one directly attacked you, so there is no need for the tone I keep getting when I read your (I did try not to say your, but there it is) responses. All points that were made were good points and generalizations. No one came out and said anyone was triggered (I admit, I still don't really understand what that means, but I'll make assumptions with the context clues given) or anything else. No need to fall on your sword repeatedly. Everyone is simply entitled to state their opinion. I would simply suggest that you request the thread be locked if you don't desire to see further responses. It is the suggestions thread, so people will continue to pro/con suggestions, nothing wrong with that.
Please remember the community guidelines and to stay on topic! Try to reply to the ideas, not about the person who posted them :)
Who even looks at quest items? I just click on the buy button, check the price, and move on. I literally could not tell you what items I'm asked for.
Gigantic no to this suggestion.
Subeta already has stricter rules on content than the pg-13 guidelines they're to abide by. I'd honestly hate for it to become even more strict. The word filter already causes confusion (and images AND links to break). If they had filters to filter out content, it would cause even more confusion and breakage. So, no thank you.