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May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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I didn’t know whether to post this in the feedback or suggestions forum, so feel free to move it to wherever you think is appropriate.

Are there any places on the site that you feel haven’t had as much focus for a while, that you would like to see get more focus? I was inspired to make this thread after all the Alchemy items we got last year, along with some this year, as well as all the new items we got from Fine Fabrics and Five Seven Five the year before. I think people might have requested more items from those places in the past, so I thought why not make a thread to ask about other places too. This doesn’t just have to be new items, this can also involve revamps, or re-releasing older items in different ways.

Here’s what I would like to see featured more:

Shops
  • All That Glitters: I don’t think we’ve had anything new from here in a while, I think it’s certainly been years. And a lot of the existing items are cheaper in usershops, so most people don’t really buy from there anymore unless Major Drills asks them to, so having some new items would make people more inclined to do so.
  • Bits and Bytes: When was the last time there were new items here? With all the new technology in the real world, it would be good to see Subeta versions of them sold there. And some items could probably use a revamp as well.
  • Book Nook: Most books these days are released elsewhere, it would be nice to see some new restocking books for once.
  • Music Shop: This shop has potential to have more music items, and I think several people have also requested that it becomes one of the places available to work for at the Job Agency. And there are probably items that need revamping there too.
  • The Lost Skeleton: A lot of the food there grosses me out, but it would still be nice to see some new stuff there. I made a suggestion for Survival 2020 about having foods based on the 2019 strains, maybe we could have some of those?
  • The Sable Smithy: This shop has a similar problem to All That Glitters, and there are several items that don’t seem to have a use. But I’ll get onto that later...
  • Toy Box: No one really plays with their pets these days because there are minions that keep them happy all the time, most people only keep a minion-less pet in case Major Drills asks them to give them an item to play with. But there are still lots of items that need revamps.
  • Trading Card Canter: I don’t really want there to be any new trading cards added because the achievements for getting all the plushies, beanbags, and stickers are already hard enough with all of those new items being added all the time. But apparently a lot of trading cards were “revamped”, or rather, changed into different cards, and it would be good if they all had their own art (but I understand if not because that would be a lot of work). I also wouldn’t mind there being trading cards added for the pets that don’t have them yet.
  • Crypts Treasure: There’s a lot of items being added to the Token Shop, Blackheart Hollow, the Recycle Shop, the Forum Shop, the Crystal Shop, and sometimes the Carnival Prizes, it would be nice to see those kind of items in a different shop for once, and it would encourage people to play the Crypts more.
  • Dara’s Darlings: When was the last time we had new minions here? After we got new items for the other Shengui Guo places, this place should have a turn.
  • GoOutside: I don’t remember the last time we had new stuff here, and people have been asking for cycling items among other things.
  • Battle Shop: Someone mentioned in the “Items To Put Back Into Circulation” thread that they felt this shop was neglected, and that it would be good if various battle items that aren’t currently available anywhere but user shops (and sometimes not even there) could go there.

I wanted to mention Defend and Conquer and Weapons Warehouse but I feel like the staff are limiting how many battle items they’re releasing these days since there’s loads already and people would probably complain if either shop had items that are just wearables and can’t actually be used in battle. And there’s also the fact that they do seem to be slowly working on revamping the existing items from there.

Other features
  • Face Painting: I haven’t tried it, but this appears to still work. However, the link to buying items is pointless because it says the event is over (and has been for over 10 years), so it would be better to just go straight to showing the face painting designs.
  • Farmer’s Market: The only thing you can do here at the moment is feed the Dragons of Autumn. It would be good if they brought back the basket filling for Neugarten or Fireside or something.
  • Gardens: Yes, we all know it will be revamped eventually, but it’s been literal years since the vote, and I’ve said multiple times that the staff should either ignore the vote and revamp the gardens and Centropolis Lower West Side before releasing the Tea House, or they should hold another vote. But I really think it could do with an alert for when you can water again.
  • Genetech Lab: We haven’t had any new items from there since the Gelatin War of 2019, and a lot of older items are in need of revamps too. And apparently the items from the Sable Smithy (remember how I said I would get onto that later?) are meant to be used there, but not all of them are currently usable, they don’t even have to be used for battle items, they could be used for wearable armour or something.
  • Rachelle’s Replacement and Repair: There’s a thread somewhere asking about making the HA changes from this layerable, and the art could probably do with being revamped as well.
  • Underground Fishing: We’ve had some new items for regular fishing, so how about here too?

I'm not expecting this to happen all at once or over a short timespan since I know the staff are busy, I just wanted to bring up these things for them to consider. If there’s anything else you would like to see featured more, you can post about it here.

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May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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Pet releases.

0 in January, 0 in February, Nostalgic Urubu in March, Reborn Keeto revamp in April.

For a pet site, a release every two months is kinda neglect.

May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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Achievements! I can't recall the exact figure as I saw it posted by another user, but last year there were so few added. There are loads more food, book, etc achievements that I would like to see added that increase the amount of items being consumed.

Wouldn't also mind seeing an achievement like Frag X amount of items and Recycles X amount of items, rather than encouraging point hoarding like the current RB achievement does.

May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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I agree about the pet releases, especially for the holiday excusive pets. Are we really going 2 years in a row without any Steamwork or Graveyard pets, after only having one of each the previous year? I feel like this is because the pet artists have been too busy with real life, but what about the older pets that haven't had new artists assigned to them yet? Maybe Subeta should start asking for more artists to join them again (what happened to that time they asked and mentioned that the Aenoid needed a new artist, but still doesn't have one?) And we were told that pets in holiday exclusive colorus would be released outside of those holidays to make up for the lack of new pet colours, but that was over a year ago and the closest thing was probably the Nostalgic Urubu which was technically still during winter. Also, how many pets are drawn and ready to be released, but are being withheld until whenever they feel like releasing them?

As for achievements, it would be good to see more of those where the prize isn't a forum title, but a new skin instead. Or new borders, like the new Masquerade achievements, only other achievements would require something specific to be done rather than be awarded at random. And I guess some of the site features that I mentioned in my original post could have new achievements, or more tiers added to any existing achievements.

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May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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I think a big problem here is just the lack of staff - the few coders are busy with big site overhaul things, and the artists are either on hiatus due to life stuff, or busy with churning out holiday items/"required" items like monthly collections. So I don't really expect much to change anytime soon (still enjoying the site anyway, though!) It would be nice if each month we could prioritize one "extra" like a new wearable for an achievement prize one month, next month a new pet, next month a 2-3 new items in shops like the smithy or paw naturale (honestly, now that I think of it, very few new items are getting added to main shops at all these days??), etc. Just to shake things up a bit without overloading remaining staff TOO much.

Personally, one neglected area I'd like to see revamped is the smail system. As someone that does both cw and art commissions on subeta and prefers to keep all communication on site in case the need for arbitration arises, smail is a really vital function for me.

May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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The pandemic and staff shortage have been an excuse for a year, and aside from Jessi coming back to work on CWs, I have a feeling that not much has been done to fix that - not even attempting to hire is worrisome.

Rah going on maternity leave? Staff knew that it would happen months ahead, and it showed. We had a massive slowdown in pet releases since she left, and not just for the species she draws.

A lot of people who used to minimod went inactive, or straight up quit, with no new blood being added - some minimods have 2, 3 forums. While I understand forums are slow, running the remaining volunteers thin might not be the best course of action .

Really, there isn't a part of the site that isn't neglected. Yes, the BC gets new opponents twice a month, but the battle shop haven't had new additions in years. Decades-old plots have not been added to the Antique Shop yet. No new Subetapedia entry in a year. And I could go on and on.

Staff, if you want us to keep interest in the site, you kinda have to show interest too. Hire. The skeleton staff situation was meant to be temporary, after all.

May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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I think we did have a Subetapedia entry last year, for the Warador after they released the lifelike dolls of those. But if it's Rah who draws the lifelike dolls, then we probably won't have those for however long of her maternity leave she has left.

I didn't mean for there to be discourse in this thread, I just wanted to bring up features that we would like to see get more focus in the next year or two, and as I said earlier it doesn't just have to be new items (and these days most items are released one at a time anyway unless they're recolours or collection/quest shop/seasonal/holiday items).

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May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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To be fair, Subeta operates on a tight, tight budget. From what I've read on other sites, the art is the reason people keep returning to Subeta over other similar sites. So I think it'd be in Subeta's interests to spend part of their budget on another staff artist.

I wonder how worthwhile it would be for the site to cultivate some activities that are designed to take a long time to accomplish. Basically giving users projects to work on that have a definite "completion" or "end." Some of the things that mentioned in OP could be connected to long-term projects in some way to breathe new life into them.

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May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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Oh man, I would LOVE to see new stuff in Bits and Bytes. I have a pet whose treasure I'm filling with all sorts of technological goodness, but let me just point out how sad some of the PC parts are. Are these CRTs? You'd have a really sad build if you were constrained to these sticks of RAM. Seriously, one stick of RAM from my current build would equate to 16 of the highest stick I can buy on Subeta. Do Subeta's devices run on magic??? I couldn't even run my usual browser tabs with so little memory... I know a lot of good tech bits get shuffled into Masquerade, but I'd still love to see some new stuff in a restocking shop, and there are so many good little bits that could be put in Bits and Bytes! We have so few PARTS for building a PC (don't get me started on the old Computer Geek build-a-PC parts, they're SAD), so there's a lot to do in just that category alone! New RAM, PC cases (glass-sided towers, anyone?), keyboards (mechanical, membranous, hybrid), CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, SSDs, external hard drives, external disc readers... Just so much stuff I wish I could put in my pet's treasure. ;w;

And as for the Trading Card Center, you don't even need new cards to add to their stock since, lore-wise, it's also supposed to be for all your tabletop gaming needs. Manwar MADE Mazes and Mahars, after all, but we don't even have a Mazes and Mahars mat. And I'd LOVE to see, like, some terrain/map sets or tabletop RPG setting books or other stuff in that vein in there. I mean, Manwar has a decent stock of tabletop items, don't get me wrong, but I still want more, it'd go great in another pet's treasure and just, I'm pretty much drooling thinking of the new stuff I could collect for him if there were new stock.

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May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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Couldn't have worded it better. The excuse of "Subeta is not our main job" will not work forever. I think Subeta does not even have lore writers? And those could be the easiest out of the bunch to hire (as there are more writers than artists and coders).

They need to start hiring, or ask for volunteers amongst the fanbase. If they don't, Subeta will be a walking ghost town.

May 7, 2021 4 years ago
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Quote by QueenSpazzy

And as for the Trading Card Center, you don&;t even need new cards to add to their stock since, lore-wise, it&;s also supposed to be for all your tabletop gaming needs. Manwar MADE Mazes and Mahars, after all, but we don&;t even have a Mazes and Mahars mat. And I&;d LOVE to see, like, some terrain/map sets or tabletop RPG setting books or other stuff in that vein in there. I mean, Manwar has a decent stock of tabletop items, don&;t get me wrong, but I still want more, it&;d go great in another pet&;s treasure and just, I&;m pretty much drooling thinking of the new stuff I could collect for him if there were new stock.

I would just be happy if they put some of this "revamp" energy into the trading cards that are just coloured rectangles that say "subeta" on them.

I don't mind when things are revamped to become wearable if they weren't before, but ... extensive "revamps" to wearables I liked and was using are annoying and one of the reasons I got into CWs, because they're not going to change even if other people don't like them as much as I still like them.

Meanwhile we have trading cards that just say "subeta" and people wonder why I don't bother trying to build my collection? I only buy or keep the ones that have actual pictures.


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May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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The shoutbox widget, I understand there are concerns about having it open, but the sidebar message says it's closed during holidays... hasn't it been closed for like over a year?

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May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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All of the projects that were supposed to come out of Esther and Emma's charity thing for their wedding. How long has it been and we haven't seen one of those fulfilled yet? Staff are really ambitious for the amount of them that we have and I get that they have a lot of ideas and plans but we don't see that on this side of the site, so a bunch of things just looks forgotten.

And boy does it look sad when we can see 2019 achievements on the first page of achievements.

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May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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Any time you post in a public part of the site you are going to get a discussion. This is intended.

Right now the capitalist/markup from wholesale of restocking items r1-99 is only one third of the items in Subeta. This share is shrinking. This is deliberate I think. A lot of stuff that is new is r175, also on purpose. Adding in items to all these shops doesn't seem to be where the site is headed.

It is still possible to make sP restocking at ATG. This is something I do.

I talked about B&B being outdated back in the 2010 meetup. If it hasn't happened in ten years, not too likely. Computers must indeed work on magic. I'm sure they use ice cream as fuel you should spoon it right in. :)

Lost Skeleton, not super necessary because stuff like what it carries comes out in a major way every Survival.

Not every item in Subeta needs to have a use.

Most users hate Crypts. I say this as one of the top ten in the HST. Adding new stuff in there won't make folks start to play, it didn't last time. Instead they did complain about how hard it is, and staff did make it easier. This wasn't enough, so now they are part of the luck at the bathhouse.

Dara's Darlings is already limited via the way that it distributes. This won't change if you add items. I'm pretty sure five new ones were added recently.

The nerfing of the Battle Shop was deliberate.

Folks complained bitterly about the baskets to be filled at the Farmer's Market. This is unpopular.

May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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I forgot to mention the Trash Can, I think there's only 2 items you can get from there so after a while it's not worth checking. An idea I came up with is using it to re-release the trash items from Peka-Boo, but those might be cheap enough for people to buy if they ever wanted them, and they don't really have much use anyway.

To be fair, I wasn't there when the Farmer's Market feature was active, so I didn't know people didn't like it.

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May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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Couldn&;t have worded it better.
The excuse of &quot;Subeta is not our main job&quot; will not work forever. I think Subeta does not even have lore writers? And those could be the easiest out of the bunch to hire (as there are more writers than artists and coders).</p>
<p>They need to start hiring, or ask for volunteers amongst the fanbase. If they don&;t, Subeta will be a walking ghost town.

yea some of us would be happy to volunteer. i can do a little coding and would be willing to help out if they need it.

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May 8, 2021 4 years ago
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I would like to see more work done for the minion zoos. I would like to be able to round up my minions into groups and have different types of enclosures for different groups (the ability to name the group would give this effect). I would like rewards for fights and levelling up, nothing much, just some cute items/small amount of SP. I would like achievements, winning x amount of fights, levelling up x times, have x minions on x level, have x minions, have x groups and achievements like the collections/wearables/reading ones where you need specific minions. Also, not all minions have stats, can stats be added to all or is there a lore reason that some of them don't have this?

Edit: Please could we also have baking and alchemy achievements? I can see these have already been suggested in the achievement forum but neither have been added. This could really boost the amount of new achievements, be on x level, make x items (can be split further for the alchemy one as there are different types of items), burn x items, make specific item.

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May 8, 2021 4 years ago Official
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Moving this to site feedback. While there are some suggestions weaved in this is more about a discussion.


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