Not sure if there is already a post on this, or if this is the right place for this post, but we'll see! Has anyone else noticed a lack of Super rare items (and even occasionally rare items) being asked for by Saggitarius? Whilst this normally makes it cheaper to buy the items, Saggitarius is now only giving out a fraction of what he used to before (seems to be about 100k max, whereas before, depending on the items, I could get 400k). I'm not too happy about this change if said change/assumption is correct, as I used to make a killing from Saggitarius most days- and if Saggitarius is the quest for the more wealthier players, then why reduce the amount of sP he's giving out and the rarity of the items he's asking for? Sometimes Carl, Pete, Maleria or Nori/Mori give me more sP than Saggi does...

Why does Saggitarius have to be the end-all be-all best quest giver though? No quest giver should give 400k sP on a non-WSQ day tbh

He doesn't have to be the be-all-end-all best quest giver, but the entire point of him is that he asks for rare and expensive things and rewards you for it. I'd rather spend 200k and maybe get 400k back (Or maybe only get 100k, way she goes) than spend like 50k and get 60k back.

Like, you have to have at least 750k (last I checked) to even ACCESS his quests because of how expensive they're supposed to be. Why even make him exclusive if he isn't going to be worth it. Carl is better than Saggi now. Alexander is better than Saggi now (When it's not ATG as second items)

Yeah I do think he needs to be tweaked a little. How else are super rares leaving the economy? I'm snagging quite a few from restocks - plus quest rewards - but I don't know where they're supposed to be going and can foresee the prices tumbling. They've typically held steady at at least ~50k sP.

There doesn't feel like any 'responsiveness' to the rarity when I think that balance was spot on before. You could really sense the rewards by observing the rarities. I'm not getting that feedback here; you can turn in a r98, r99 and get 100k back for a 4 item quest, when there was a real consistency to rewards before. Now it feels imbalanced.

We don't need any quest giver to be giving over 200K on a non weekend special quest. That's how inflation problems begin.

Haven't you learned from the past? Didn't you get the point that Saggi vomitting billions in profit per week is terrible, and is why CSC is that darned expensive?

750K is 5% of the worth of the average user. 750K is nowhere as exclusive as it used to be.

If you want Saggi to be exclusive, boost its minimum requirement to 10M. That's 66% of the worth of the average player. If you don't have that, sorry, stick to everything else.

Because right now, Saggi is not exclusive. Sarah is far more exclusive than he is

I can definitely see Sopheroo's point. I'd love for my 150m to be "worth more" than it is.

Would it be counterproductive to have something else to make Saggi worth it? Like, sure make him exclusive, make his minimum 10m, even keep the payout as absolutely average as it. But add something else? Extra quest points? "sP is so common and dirt cheap and I am so above that I will give you other currency" or something? idkidk I don't think that's really that good because I don't think QPs are worth tooooo much I just still need things from that shop and I know we don't need any new currencies.

Just made a thread for a Sarah/Saggi quest revamp because Sarah is far more exclusive than Saggi is and that's illogical.

SARAH IS THE 99%, MAKE HER ELIGIBLE FOR THE 99% TO TAKE PART IN HER QUESTS

Eh, I mean, I'm glad they changed him since yesterday because he was asking for almost all rares and it shot rares up to 500k (and sometimes none in shops at all). And despite him asking for a bunch of commons I uh...made almost 700k from him today.

I don't think his profits should be cut but I'm not against the idea of raising the minimum needed to 10 mil. That would make him more exclusive.

I've been keeping track of my quests for the past few days and I've definitely noticed that Saggi's rewards are SIGNIFICANTLY worse than the other quests. It's not just that his sP rewards aren't keeping up, he also doesn't give out item prizes to make up for the lack. This is a recent thing that can't solely be blamed on the Quest-A-Thon. He's just not asking for as many Super Rares, and as a result Rares are much more expensive overall, while Super Rares are especially cheap right now.

For brevity's sake I'll just list my Saggi, Wiz, and Pete results (the other quests also had sP payouts consistently in the 200-400k range, plus items). These are how many rare and super rare items they gave out, plus how much sP I earned.

July 26 Wizard (0 quit) - Rare:0 Super:0 sP:300k WT:350 Saggi (4 quit) - Rare:0 Super:0 sP:400k Pete (0 quit) - Rare:12 Super:0 sP:300k

July 27 Wizard (0 quit) - Rare:0 Super:0 sP:350k WT:350 Saggi (9 quit) - Rare:0 Super:0 sP:200k Pete (0 quit) - Rare:11 Super:0 sP:250k

July 28 Wizard (0 quit) - Rare:0 Super:0 sP:400k WT:350 Saggi (7 quit) - Rare:0 Super:0 sP:300k Pete (0 quit) - Rare:12 Super:0 sP:300k

It's pretty obvious imo that Saggi just isn't as worthwhile as the other quests right now. Either the other quests need their sP payouts adjusted way down or Saggi needs to start asking for more SRs again so his payouts return to their previous level.

i kinda like saggi today. he is much more predictable with the rewards. if the total cost is more than 100k i just quit the quest. and it help removing lower rarity items. i actually make profit from him today. yesterday, i lost money to him a lot.

800k from Saggi today. Sure, he didn't give more than like one prize over 100k, but 800k is a great haul so.

Right now, since I'm not used to the change and thus haven't adjusted my purchasing strategy to match, this is driving me crazy. I only made over 100k on one quest -- overall, I still profited, but the profit was pretty minimal because I haven't figured out where to put the new cut-off yet. In the long run it's probably a positive change but until I figure out the new rules I'm going to be annoyed, lol.

All for this tbh! Or maybe the minimum requirement could even be coded as the average amount on the 'about subeta' page (currently about 14 mil).

Is he not asking for SR's at all, though? How are those items supposed to keep their value? Idk.

I actually have no problem with Saggi's decreased rewards (I think it's a fairly good way to deal with all the inflation), and I don't think they should be raised.

However, I definitely agree with the people who say that Saggi needs to ask for more super rare items. I've noticed lots of super rares being deflated recently (I assume due to all those quest prizes from the quest-a-thon), and we really need Saggi to ask for more of them in order for their sP value to be consistent with their rarity.

I'm all for making Saggi:

• ask for more rares and super rares,

• for the condition of having at least 5 or 10 mil to access him

• and for the possibility of allowing people with less than 1 mil to quest for sarah [i would still not have access to her, but a few more people would be able to quest for her, she would still be exclusive]

and yes, people who have more than 1 mil but less than 5 [or 10, whatever limit staff would decide] would hot have access to either Saggi or Sarah. but the purpose was for them to be "exclusive" Of course, this would also mean that Saggi could never be featured as a weekend quest anymore. but this is good for the economy. :> [right now ths idea sounds brilliant, to be honest, i don't know how will it sound later on]

I don't think his quests should be generating too much sP but he's always been an important cog in the system. He's pretty much single-handedly sustained the price on rare items.

I don't mind if the wealth is generated more evenly across quests and whatever the base requirement is is irrelevant to me. If other quests are going to be giving out these good rewards, though, I'd say they need to start asking for super rares too if Saggi is going to stay as is.

But if no quests can give out 200k+ I just don't really see how things are supposed to retain their value. The reason I'd spend ~150k+ on a single item (out of 4) is because I knew I'd break even. I just don't feel the same with the new system.

I was surprised when he kept asking me for commons, but I like it. He's still very much worth doing, even if the rewards are decreased. I've made a decent profit the last couple of days, and it's easier to tell if a quest's going to be worth it or not.

This seems like a good way to help get some lower rarity items moving. Especially after the vending changes.

There are none of that item in the shops!

keep getting this with his quest now...

The last few days he asked me for almost nothing but rares, which are really inflated in price compared to Super Rares rn. Today, he asked me for almost nothing but commons. I think out of fifteen quests he asked me for something like three rares and one super? I hardly had to spend more than 20k per quest and made about 900k in profits all told.

Neither extreme is good in the long term.

Make him ask for only r60+, no common items, give him a bigger payout, and make it a requirement to have 10mill or more to quest for him. Make him a difficult and risky quest that has a good reward on good days. Or something, idk. I just like the idea of him being rich-exclusive quest guy who likes expensive things and throws a lot of money around. Right now Carl is giving as good as Saggi plus an item you can sell. If Saggi is exclusive make him worth it? Changing around how all the quests work is great, but the current Saggi/Sarah system definitely needs to be updated along with them. He doesn't need weekend quests, or maybe that's just a perk of having the minimum requirement for him like it is now. It would be cool to have a little more variety in all of these quests, I like the idea of "strategy" as much as it can be applied to the questing scenario and Saggi is set up to be a good place to apply that.