I know restocking has been deemed useless by some but really it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm not sure what all suggestions where taken from the feedback thread but surely hourly restocks weren't a solution. Everything that is sitting in shops for an hour are cheap worthless items that are vended to death. So if the store doesn't restock but once in an hour and all that is there is crap...then yes, restocking is useless.

There were so many great ideas from users for the NPC shops not to mention wonderful forum threads. I think if the focus was put on shops for a few months then the site would be buzzing again. In two steps most people on the site could find a new interest/life in the game. Add new inventory (not just wearable) to shops especially those that have been neglected. Then retire some of the older items that have been vended to death. The market is flooded with so many cheap vended things that nobody can use except for fragging. Yes, I frag them but how many people actually do?

Restockers are citizens of Subeta so show us some love and let everyone else do without for a few months. I bet they would like the new things too. :)

ETA: Maybe double exposure will get some notice so please also voice your concerns in the Staff Restock Changes thread

I was just wondering what was up with the restocks myself.

Hey hon, I know right. Sadly I missed the restock while making the post. LoL just my luck. I'm giving up...today has been a total bust for restocks imo.

I think another thing that contributes to flood of cheap items is the mystery box. To me it's just another form of vending. Rarely are the items worth the grab bc the prices are so deflated.

There were a lot of responses on the thread in Site Updates - here - which I think would also be applicable in this case, if anyone wants to read through that.

But yeah - I'm really not liking these new changes. Not only are they taking away the means of sP for many users, it doesn't give those users any reason to play on Subeta for long periods of time. I don't see how this benefits the economy at all, and I think there are other things we can do besides taking away restocking. I'm still very hopeful that this was a bug/glitch, but if this was intended... I wouldn't know what to say. Hopefully this is resolved soon.

I've seen this happening a lot lately with it being a half an hour to an hour between restocks. I agree that with it being this way it is just running people off site. I do restocking most here and if it takes so long between them then I'm going to move on. It is of no benefit to me at all. And I agree that the Mystery Box is just another form of vending and doesn't usually give items worth what you spend but I think vending is the same way. I've also seen a glut of items in the shops as well. Like 25 or 75 of an item sitting in the shop. That just seems crazy to me because it just drives all the prices down. Prices of things are so deflated as it is, why add more to it??

Same for me. I've made just under 50% of my sP through restocking and selling other items. It is a large part of the experience for many users, and without it, I think many of us would not be here. Besides that issue, there is also the issue that these new changes in vending, restocking, etc. have brought to the economy.

I don't understand why this new change was made and I'm not liking it at all.

I keep thinking that myself. What is this doing to the economy? I know I don't fully understand it all but I can't imagine it is doing it any good!

I think some item prices are seriously deflated, some item prices are seriously inflated. Other users have explained it way better than me, and I don't have a lot of solid knowledge on the inner workings of Subeta economy like others do.

I heard talk that staff are trying to phase out restocking because it's "too much like Neopets". If this is their way of saying "see, no one restocks!" and phasing it out, I will be extremely angry. First of all, there are lots of things that we have that are similar to Neopets, yet evolved - battling, pets, customization/dressing up, banks, vaults, Gourmand, etc. so why shouldn't we take that away too? Also, restocking is just so integral to site economy and site users, and I really hope this is fixed soon.

I came here from Neopets and I feel this site is much better than it but to phase something out because it is too much like it seems silly to me. Who cares what that site does or doesn't do. People are here because they want to be for whatever reason and that other site shouldn't be cause for things to change here. If restocking is taken away I will be very upset. That is my main source of sP, buying from shops cheaper and reselling at a higher price in my shop. Yes, we can quest and vend but that is only part of the whole package. I am with you, I hope it all gets straitened out soon!

I agree with your post wholeheartedly! I like to restock, and so does my friend, and we couldn't get anything today. If it's been 20-60 minutes, then it's guaranteed that there is NOTHING in the shop left that anyone wants. There's seriously no point. This needs to be changed.

I myself noticed this the other day as well and made a topic on it Here asking if anyone could tell me if this change had been announced or if it's just a bug. Several people posted, but no one knew. None of them seemed happy with the change either. I know I'm not. RSing is how I spend most of my time on Subeta, and if it gets taken away, I will be contributing A LOT less time here unfortunately.

Also

It it subeta's brand of philosophy 'if it aint broke, jinx it!'.

So, I'm with the rest of the folks here wondering about the NPC shops.

My thing about it is that I make a ton of my money from RSing. Quests help too, yes, but RSing is a good 75% of my income and I was trucking right along towards that last shop till achievement till this new update rolled out.

I understand that the shops haven't really changed since 08 and that needed an update. Okay, cool. But.

1. Don't make the shop restock times so long that people are bored and leave.
2. You have got to clear out the shops occasionally. I hate it, but it helps get rid of some of those items that are basically worthless to RS. Anything that can be vended needs to basically get gone.
3. Actually do what you set out to do. Eliminate the things that cost more in the shops than they do in user shops, let them move back up in value. However, don't slow the frequency you have already established for the rares/super rares. In doing so, you are creating a situation where they are SO expensive that they are elusive to anyone who isn't previously rich enough to buy them.

If you were to ask me, and I know no one here is, but I think the REAL solution is to look into reducing the number of vending machines/changing what they vend. Wait, hear me out before you criticize:

1. A large part of the reason we have some items that are only good for fragging is because you can vend them over and over and over, till you are sick of seeing them. Then they are 10+ in stock in a NPC shop to boot.
2. There are how many vending machines?? That's already too many if you can't recall the exact number unless you sit and vend extremely frequently.
3. You might make vending more lucrative by making them vend exclusively "vending only" items. I know I only vend when I know I can get something special from the machine (like when Grave Digger had the Valentine's Day goodies).

Consolidating the vending machines to a smaller number and then adding in more special items to those that remain actually might do the economy some good for a change.

For real though, if NOTHING else changes, CHANGE THE DAMN RESTOCK TIMES BACK THE WAY THEY WERE.

I like to restock a fair bit here. But when there's this much time between restocks, there's no point in it. I'm not going to spend long amounts of time refreshing a page in hopes I'll see a restock within 25 minutes. That's absolutely no fun, and I'd much rather spend my time elsewhere, specifically somewhere outside of Subeta. Restocking is a good idle activity, but if it's made impossible to do like this, then I'm going to get bored very quickly.

i've been hoping that the restock times are just bugged because honestly why would ANYONE think this change would be good?

I actually hadn't really noticed this long restock times until today. I really hope that the restock times will go back to "normal" soon :/

I really do hope that this is a bug, maybe a problem with the new coding.

This is a horrible change, I do hope it's a bug/glitch..otherwise my time on Subeta will be even less than it is now. Sad to say, there's not much keeping me here at the moment, and this gives me more reason to spend my online time elsewhere :(

second this. Maybe we should retire some vending machines=

I was shocked to wake up to the Grooming Parlor not restocked for 2.17 hours! I restock for the fun of it, it´s exciting to get rare items. In the last days, I was not able to get any of the new messenger bags or boots, and I am a capable restocker normally. That´s very boring. Especially between events, restocking is a lot of fun. I would not like to see it go the way it now shows. Perhaps stuff is only adjusting things? I hope so!