Subeta -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

nonono, you find it ugly. why exactly?

"OH NO. THE VELOCIRAPTORS ATE THE CASH SHOP. Not really, just fixing a bug "

notfunneh -__-" this "OMG OUTDATED ART REVAMP IT!"-stuff is a serious problem, noooo fun!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

eew, new ones ugly.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

hm, i fear people get stuck on this velo-utah-stuff because of the claw. it is really really obviously where this idea comes from. i find it to specific even if it may look droolingfunneh.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Flit, I absolutely agree with you.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Hm... the head does look a bit weird at the base, doesn't it? NoirRaven- come on, they are two different species. Not only does the Utahraptor not have such a distinct bulgy head, but it's not the same species as Velosotors anyway, is it?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Why on earth does it have to look like any specific kind of dinosaur? The goal of Subeta isn't to have pets the look identical to real animals - they don't have tigers and velosoraptors here. They have Tigreans and Velosotors. From what I understand, with every single pet on the site that's based on a real-world animal, it's based roughly on that animal. It's completely stupid to say that the revamp is bad because it doesn't look exactly like soandso animal. Velosotor has traits from a few different real dinosaurs, and a few of its own special traits. Honestly, if you only want a pet that looks identical to what its based on, Subeta's probably not the place for you.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think he looks lovely, but I would also like to see that neck affixed more to the back of the skull than underneath, and I am just not sure about that first crest point there on his forehead. To me it looks like it is starting just a bit too far forward on his face, but that is just my own aesthetics. He's in much better shape than the old one!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

As I've said before, the artists only have so much room to work in so some sacrifices have to be made...

Besides... when ya look at the Utahraptor, its head is attached the same way... See examples A and B.

Hmm... I'm not saying I care but if you had to thin something out, the neck might be an option but as I said, I don't care about anything but that stupid grin. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

maybe because of that the back of the head looks so big (to me).

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I just realized, looking at it again, what has been bothering me about the neck: it's a human neck. Reptiles' necks connect to the back of the skull, not the underside of it. The effect is kind of disturbing, like a single human hand would be.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yay!A MILLION TIMES BETTER! XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I would say that this is about a thousand times better than the original.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's amazing how different the two looks are....the old one looks quite sad and forlorn whereas the new drawing is cheeky and sly. Congratulations to the artist...personally I like the new drawing better.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

NoirRaven- I know about the Utahraptor. Tis actualy closer to what the raptors in jurassic park were. And there was some debate on wether or not they were feathered, beacues they were large enough to produce enough body heat or whatever. I'm a little irked cause your treating me like I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to raptors. Ture, I don't know much about most of them, but I know about the velicraptor, and the utahraptor. Basicaly, I just want the hands on this one to be a little longer in the finger area, like they could grasp something. And the tummy brought up a TAD. I know it's ok now, but because of the leg and arm, it makes him look kind of fat. That's just what I think.

And all I was saying before was that people need to know what dino they are asking this to look like. I /don't/ want a veliciraptor. I want the Jurassic Park thing. It won't happen, I know. But at least the hands, man. The hands, and something about the tail bugs me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Thanks, I already know the code. ^-^

I agree with Aicona, they should be "thin and elegant." That's what I was trying to suggest... I'm just bad at that.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like how it looks.Nice strong jaw for holding prey,thick neck to house the muscles.Long tail for balance(looks shorter cause it's curved)Kudos to the artist. There's no pictures of dinosaurs it's up to peoples interupratations of them.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

it looks good and all but to me the older one is more cute. so i don't really care for this revamp like the dragon.- misses my used to be very cute baby dragon -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

In your opinion, maybe AristoDragon but as far as I'm concerned, they can't make it like the Jurassic Park Raptors because... well... they're not in Subeta's style. Subeta has a certain cartoon/anime style standard and this is about as close as you're ever going to get to an "actual" dino here.

... That sounds like a good plan Aristo. I also think there's a code you can use to hide the pic of the revamp if you just absolutely can't stand it.

Aww HB! Shaddup! You're makin' me blush. XD I know a lot about different dinosaur species because of this Dinosaur Encyclopeia I used to read as a child. I also watch any dinosaur documentary on TV as well as check out different sites and such every now and again. X3 *dinocrazy*

Aicona, you're right. We did get off topic but everyone wants this thing to look like the beasts from Jurassic Park and I don't think it can be done... At least not with the common version. Maybe they'll have a Bloodred version with it running at you, blood everywhere and teeth bared at the user... That would be awesome. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

hmm. id love it if they released an even more powerful-dino-thing like this revamp, and would keep the velosotor a thin little elegant thing. i dont like this discussions about velociraptors and utahraptors or whatever dinosaur, because this here is about the velosotor, not a real-life dinosaur...i thought. but thats just me it seems.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

-sigh- Alright I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm stating my opinion... I wasn't being seriouse (hence the ) and I will indeed be drawing my own versions if I decide to make any of my pets a Velosotor. Eh? That good?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

And I agree with what I said before; it should be more stylized to fit with how people think raptors should look, even if they are uneducated. It makes for a better look.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

AristoDragon, didn't know that i had to wait to be asked to comment here
... but as suggestion: draw it yourself, how you think it should look like. when you show it maybe people understand. n_n

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Well... whoops. XD Idiot me.

I agree with Huff123. It looks FINE as is and making it thinner won't improve anything. This is why I've been pushing the Utahraptor so much. For it's not thin, it's meaty and it's got huge claws but they're just not listening. DX

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

reads NoirRaven's posts Ah Michelle, you're my hero . Honestly, I never knew there were more than one kind of raptor until I read Raptor Red several years ago. For years I was just going by Jurassic Park. silly me.

Ok, back to the redraw. I voted for the old one. I think the body of the new one is great, but it's the smile that puts me off. The old one has kind of a somber look to it almost. Maybe it's just me, but this is one of the species on here that I think would not look right with a smile on it. I always thought of it as a somewhat "mean" species. Well, not really mean. Maybe a little misunderstood. Anyways, whoever drew the new one did a great job. It's just the smile that put me off.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

As if I was asking you. But of course thinner would not only refer to the belly. I can tell these things, you know. =S

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Noir, i didn't adress you at all... XD understood your point. was reffering to the ones complaining about "looks too much t-rex"

Aristo, i doubt thinner would make it any better...
the belly just would not fit the rest of the body then... like the strong leggs.
then they would need changes too, when that is changed, the head would look out of place and so on... no thanks. ^^;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

huff123, Vrill, I don't have a problem with how the Velos looks, period. Well, I don't like the grin. XD

What I am trying to do is educate people about the fact that not all Raptors are based off Jurassic Park and that the real Velociraptor has feathers. Not scales, so they shouldn't be asking the staff to make it more like that species of dinosaur.

However I do think we all have gone a little off topic and I think it's high time comments for this post should be disabled but, then again, it'll just move to the shout box and forums so... Blah.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It'd be rather boring if the pets were exactly what they were based on. Aye?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Because it is indeed better than the old one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really don't think it has to look like any particular real dinosaur. In fact, I'd much rather it look like the stereotypical, Jurassic Park 'raptors' than anything. All the pets are stylized, aren't they? Make it thinner and it'll be good, right? Yes the art is better now, but they did tweak the Tigrean, right? So if it's just some nip n' tuck it needs, fine!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

100% behind this revamp, it looks AMAZING. =D Kudos to the artist, tons of kudos-y goodness.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm gonna say it for the last time, READ UP ON UTAHRAPTOR! For christ sake people. There's more than one kind of raptor you know.

Also, if you want the Velosotor to look like a Velociraptor, then I suggest you ask the artists to draw them with feathers because the Velociraptor had a coat of feathers, not scales!

In all honesty, I don't know how they can make this poor, fictional beast any thinner than it already is without messing it up completely. Guys, Raptors are a lot like chickens and birds. They have powerful legs, hence the huge thigh you see here. If the staff would be so kind as to draw this guy a skeleton and over lap it over the sample pic, you'd realize that they got the anatomy and muscle placement right as well.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I can't believe you people, you're now arguing over how dinosaur's kill their prey? Oh, does the look on the pet's face give away a slight indication that it's going to whip you with it's tail? OH NO. What will the dinosaur experts do?! - Look, just be grateful someone has drawn this to cover up the embarrassing art of the last one. I mean, seriously, you're arguing over what's wrong with this new version to keep the old, out of date and - are you ready for it? - the anatomy is completely incorrect! Most of the people here wouldn't a) Have a velosotor. b) Will ever own a velosotor.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

am i the only one who has totally no problems with the t-rex/raptor/whatever mix? ...
i like it this way, as mix, not actuall pet. it still screames "Dino"... why changing?
i even appreciate that it is well fed now...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Gah! Misplaced the bold tag. DX Sorry!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Luka_Pooka, there's only so much space the staff can use for each pet has to fit 200 x 200 pixels. :/ There's no room for a long neck and stiff tail.

Also, you're wrong... they did use their teeth to kill their prey. Their hooklike claws were proven, on television and in fossils, that the claw was used to [b]hang on or stab, rather than used to hack and slash prey.
Also, please refer to my previous post, the one with the link about the UTAHRAPTOR...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Thank you artists! Looks much more dinosaur-ish now, stronger and muscled out. Definitely better shading, love those toe-claws. No more tiny dinos! Might get one myself if the revamps go through, once I see the new colors Kudos to that artist!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

-sigh- I sorta hoped that the Velosotor revamp would be more... improved? Aren't they supposed to be based off raptors? Hopefully some of the comments I've seen here (needs to be thinner and more streamlined, longer arms, etc.) are taken into consideration. I realize it isn't supposed to be a raptor but a Velosotor, buuuuut if we wanted something dinosaur-y and more towards the T-rex/other large meat eating persuasion, we have the Mortiking, yes? This one definately needs to be toned down a bit. But I do love the new art and with a few tweaks it'll be perfect. I think maybe the aim should be more like a lizzard than a dinosaur, because the old one seemed very lizard-ish. Anyway, good job.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sorry all my first link didn't work. Try this.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

When ya get right down to it, the Velociraptor looks more like a Turkey. e_e Also, for those complaining it looks too much like a Trex, I suggest you look up the UtahRaptor. The largest raptor to ever exist and the closest one to resemble our little Velosotor friend.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The artist needs to go watch Jurassic Park or read Raptor Red. Raptors were slim, fast hunters with long S-shaped necks and long stiff tails that helped balance them while running. The shape of the pelvis indicated that they were upright whenever they were sitting or standing. They used their massive killing-claw as their main weapon, not their jaws, which were narrow. They also has much longer arms than the T-rex.

The T-rex and its relatives had short, powerful bodies (not long-distance runners like raptors) with short, powerful necks to give their massive blunt jaws tremendous biting power. Their jaws were their main weapon, not their claws. The shape of the pelvis indicated that they were tilted forward while walking - sitting, their shoulders would be close to the ground.

As the Velosotor is based on a RAPTOR, not a T-rex, please take these points into consideration.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

How do I say it. A real raptors face looks sorf of like the shape of a stick of bread? xD I want somethign like the massive, scarry creatures from jurassic Park, but I don't think it will happen that way. I just don't want people saying things they don't know about raptors, cause then later on they will complain about how it looks. xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

NoirRaven- I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just saying I'm not all for the 'OMG make it just like the real thing' approch. Everyone is saying or was saying before that the face was not right, that it should be long and more narrow, like a real raptor. I think alot of them are thingking like Jurassic Park, but a real veilociraptor has a kind of long, ugly face. xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

if you watch it closely, the Mortiking might be a Dino-pet too
maybe it's just me... but this one looks a bit more cute then the old. XD (no, i am not for too many too cute pets hooray for colors like GY and BR)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

aaah i see. yes i noticed hes DM, but i still find him cute x3 not this dumb-cute, but cool-cute. i mean, velosotors have never been fluffy or such. but indeed, there are no other dinosaur-like pets on subeta, didnt notice that this pet above is still not "velosotor" but just "some dinosaur on subeta". maybe rename this one, too, so that it isnt meant to be velosotor anymore, and ill be happy xD it maybe a good, realistic dinosaur pet. but velosotor is DEEEAAAAD!!! xD"

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The new ones look more like boys to me.The revamp I think is way better.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

correction: supposed to be originally. --v

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The final Tigrean came out rather okay but the first revamp was horridly cute/cubbish and I'm slightly steamed that the second one, fixed all of its problems but we still ended up with a mix of the two. :/

I'm just afraid history is going to repeat itself, all this negative feedback will change the Velosotor for the worst and it's more cutesy version will end up winning. It's also annoying me that around 70% of the users here want everything cute, fluffy and mascot-ish when they're not supposed to me originally.

if you dont want a cutsie dinosaur why did you pic the velosotor?
I chose the Velosotor for a pet because I love dinosaurs and if you didn't notice, my Velos is Dark Matter, the only one that isn't "cutesy wootsy." Hell, I might even change .Haxx. in to a common if this Revamp goes through for the character he's based on, is in fact Dark Brown in coloration.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

LOOK MOMMY A DINO!!!! XD Quote:

; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Remember, it's supposed to be a SUBETA PET

supposed... maybe, but sadly i don't think first of Velosotor when i see this...
love this though!
art is great, pose is ok.
just two points that bug me:
- the tail seems a bit short now. i actuall realy liked the long one
- it's so, uhm 'noisy'? ... too many highlights/shadings that are... diffuse, irregular... i mean... DX ... nvm, can't explain it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

"and I'm scared to death that the "cutesies" opinions are going to ruin it like they did with the Tigrean. DX" huh? the first tigrean revamp came through with a few non-cutsie changes... if you dont want a cutsie dinosaur why did you pic the velosotor? xD" did i get you wrong?

Logged Out

Leave a Comment