Too bad. I liked having this option.
this actually... That is the reason I started CW s - I have special things I want for my HA to wear. If I get the slots filled - great - if not - still fine, I will pay for the free slots since I want that Cw for my HA to wear. (and I hardly ever do more then one batch)
I am sad about the CW a´panw being semi closed and only opened ocasionallly, since I tend to browse it to renadomly gift friends from their WLs from there.
And this will be much harder if it is closed.
But then I assume the staff will have good reasons for this. sigh
Man I haven't seen this much drama since quentin posts or the oatmeal contest lmao
I honestly don't mind this?? It never has anything I'm interested in anyway xD Also I see a lot of valid points here about CW being devalued by this shop which I think is true??
I actually think this is good. I'm sure y'all are getting a lot of flack for it, but I think closing it down could really help the CW economy become what it used to be.
Well, Im not happy, its one of my favorite things to do here, its on my bookmarked sidebar, and I check it out frequently, as well as buy new cw from creators. In fact Ive often thought it a bit unfair that the pawn only gives you 200csc+ and sells for 500-600 [I sell as often as I buy lol] I would be very happy if we could have our own CW type shop and sell unwanted CW, but they will be harder to search for,whereas the pawn can just be trawled through using the filters. This wont make me buy more stuff it'll just tick me off because I cant buy older stuff. Have a clear out, only have 5 pages,or filter out the older unloved items, but please please let us still buy other peoples cast offs,and not once a year, but all the time.
I can never afford them anyway, so I don't bother. If I see something awesome on an HA, I assume it's a CW and just go about my life. I was fine before the item, I'll survive without it. xD
Thank you, Keith! <3
This isn't going to increase the number of people buying from the artists. It's just going to result in even less interest in CWs.
How is this supposed to make CWs easier for people to get? This decision is just forcing people to buy CWs from the CW shops, and most just aren't available anymore. Can anyone explain the logic behind "take away cheap CWs, make all CWs easier to get"? In a way, I'm kind of happy about it since I definitely won't be spending $200 a month of much-needed money on Subeta anymore, but it's still annoying.
agree with on this.
Welp, I've been able to get about half way up the comments before I got burnt out, but I just want to thank everyone in here venting on either side about the way things have been with the cw market and the pros and cons that this change could have. It's been an interesting read seeing different sides of it, with the thought of r200 user shops being the highlight in my head!
Must sleep. zombie brain.
Wow. God, I'm so pissed. The pawn shop is literally the only way I've been able to find some super old CWs that people won't sell in the advertising forum.
All I can say is, people shouldn't take things so personally, but since they will... If you weren't the one doing something, why argue against it? Just because you didn't do something doesn't mean others did not. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak. Slot pricing is one thing, we know of slots being 700-900 CSC quite often, to recoup some cost and make some extra CSC, but having an auction to get 5k+ CSC (I remember seeing an auction where something was up to 30k!!! I want to link to it, but won't because I feel that is targeting) off one slot/item is huge. If you're so worried about breaking even because you're not getting enough slots filled, and not just making CWs for the love of it or wanting your item on site, why even make it? Because, when CWs were released, we all knew that everything made was not going to be something everyone liked, so you were not guaranteed everyone filling up slots. Best to make things purely for wanting to the item. If I remember right, that was kind of the intent, from the start. YOU wanted an item on the site for you and your friends or cult; it was not supposed to be the new money-making thing it became, where you made something to "break even" or make money off it. Subeta, yes, users, not so much. I mean, if you're making something and slots don't fill up, even after weeks/months of waiting, why even make the item? So, a few people in slots won't get something, it was not promised to them and it's happened many times before. I've been pinged about an item months after and if I wanted it, I get it. If not, I'm sure someone else will be interested. It's also pretty entitled to believe, since you made an item by your own free will, you deserve to make back what you lost. No one forced you to want to make the item or put it on site. That is purely on you. Don't make the item if you don't have enough slots. Wait until you've gotten interest. If you never do, come out of your own pocket or bench the idea. I swear, people like to throw entitlement around a lot, though. I'm not saying "do this so every single person on the site can get something". I'm not saying, things should stay in the pawn shop. I actually don't care if that is done away with. It's what has happened to CWs over time that bugs me and there will be continue to be a lost of interests exactly because of the reasons I mentioned, even if people just think it's the price. Yeah, not everyone will be able to afford it, but let's be honest, it's been that way from the very beginning (many people complaining or posting on CW boards about wishing they could afford it, but could not), so it's obviously something else that has led to the decline of people wanting CWs, too. CWs single-handedly pushed the CSC market so high that it can take someone quite a while to afford CSC, if you don't purchase with cash. Again, not exactly a user problem; users just went with the flow and demand. I'd think that, alone, should be bringing in money for Subeta because someone has to buy the CSC fr people to buy it with sP. The same people are buying CWs, no? New users are coming in and they should be able to buy, no? However, now, there is a decline. For new users, I'm sure a lot of it is not even knowing about CWs and which ones are out there. Users who know, can look through their wardrobe, the forums, etc, and see, newer users won't know to do that. However, I'm sure people will disagree with my "silly" reasoning because I'm silly and know nothing because I don't directly sell CWs and they are free to. Won't help CWs be sold more, though.
Also, the price of making a CW is set by the site. Why exactly is it that price? Could it not be lowered? If not, why? It's just like any of the other "pixels"/art we have on the site. Is it just for the privilege of having a site item? You don't want people making a million of them and flooding the market? You want it to be an eilte and special thing? If this is the case, well, it is elite and special, so much so, there is a waning in interest because only the elite and special can afford them. As for "everyone can't have every item", most of us all know that because it's been said ad nauseam every time a complaint about an item/items comes up. We knew that about CWs pretty early on. If you couldn't get a slot or on a private list, you were out of luck. Most people got over it and moved on. I mean, I'd love to have all the diamonds from Cartier, but I can't afford them and don't worry about them, so I don't buy. I imagine it's like that for most things, even art. Again, if you can't afford something or it's an exclusive list, who is going to spend their time focusing on it? The people who could get, got and the others didn't. Subeta added the feature of being able to purchase pawned CWs from the pawn shop, not the users, so that is a Subeta-created problem that people got used to it and now it's being taken away. People would complain and act pretty hostile about things being taken away, I'd think.
I wouldn't mind using Trades to browse for CWs if we had an option to only view CW trades. I never use Trades because there are always pages and pages of stuff that people ought to be selling in their shops. This is even worse at special events where there will be lot after lot of carveable pumpkins or whatever.
Having said that, I've more or less given up with CWs now because of the prices. 700 CSC can get me several pieces from a Delish set so I'd rather buy those.
All I can say is that I'm glad I never got into CW's
Well I'm...../sigh Ok, nah, I'm upset. I really really am. But I also understand why this is happening and I would rather it work out for the peeps making the content. I know that this benefits CW artists and commissioners. And that's a good thing. So I'm kinda forcing myself to be down with this. But it sort of fuckin suuuuuuuuuuuuucks too. I mean dude we're not made of CSC and with the sP price of it only ever rising anymore it's goddamn impossible to get a cw when you can't spend dem dolla bills unless you're very lucky or have very nice friends/anons (which I guess counts as lucky! XD). Listen, maybe I'd feel better about all of this if I knew what y'all meant by "other methods" because for as far as I know, these methods may not have ANYTHING to do the needs the pawn shop is meeting for us poor mofos. Cus it's all about the $$, man.
I also agree that the CW shops need to be easier to browse at leisure like the pawn shop was, rather than something like shop search where you need to be looking for something in particular already. Give us a way to window shop, basically XD - and NOT like just using the wardrobe. Because that is just. Not made for shopping. You can end up getting lucky and finding something you wanna buy there, but there are so many items. Many, if not most of which are not actually for sale. Whatever new thing we get, if it's gunna help us browse for new items (which I know many use the pawn shop for, to go find something new to pick up), they need to be items that are, you know, actually for sale. Lmao.
A real shame about losing the pawn shop is someone tossing in those rare items on a fluke that people just aren't selling anymore. Plus it's easier to check the pawn shop for new items once a day and see what's popped in recently than run through those messy forums. I'm part of the BuySellTrade ping group which is handy but it could be so much better.
I'm disappointed by this decision. Since I don't regularly buy with RL $, it takes longer to save up CSC and I often take advantage of maximizing the value of it by buying from the pawn shop. I very very rarely will spend for full slot and that isn't going to change just because the pawn shop is no longer an option. $7 for a virtual item is insane, heck, I criticize myself for spending half that. And I doubt Subeta is going to lower it that much if any since I also see comments about items retaining value (WHY????).
Also, I saw that it will be opened for special occasions but since I live in a non-US time zone, I already regularly miss out on the beginning of events meaning I will most likely (again) miss out on the cutest items that will have been stored while closed.
Meh, again, disappointed... will wait and see what happens though. I'd like to think it is a majority and not just a small fraction of the community that wants this but from comments, it doesn't feel that way.
i like lists. here is list and some suggestions and notes i made
reasons why an item is unpopular:
reason why item is in pawn:
why people buy from pawn:
overall: until there are better features for people to discover cws that they want, pawn shop is the place to go. until someone thinks your item is worth the amount of money you submit it for, they will not buy it
At first I was thinking 'aww but I catch good things sometimes' but really, all I use it for is selling items that no one will buy because they are already in the pawn, when I just wanted slot price or what I paid for it.
I think this will be a good thing in terms of helping the market get back to where it was. Cws have pretty much become hard enough to sell for what you paid that its not even worth it, which leads users like me to not even buy them. Its money out the window. Unlike when cw was first started and everyone jacked prices up because of greed. Its the total opposite. No one wants to pay more than 400csc for anything, even if it was a one batch. Its gotten ridic.
I love that we can still sell to the pawn. But not having to look before selling a cw I paid over 700csc for and finding it in the pawn for less than 500csc will be amazing. They will become successful again in trading, and hopefully be worth some value other than a quick way to get 250csc at the pawn.
Its not like they will be deleted. Just held on to for subeta to use differently.
So for now, I am on board with this. I hope it helps creators actually fill slots, as well as make cw shops more profitable due to no pawn being there on the side with the same items. Plus it will make csc worth it again to purchase. And maybe in the end the stuff keith is working on with cw creators will mean a general price drop so batches dont sit around not being filled anymore.
Win win for us all I think.
why not just have a set price for each type of cw in the pawn shop and get rid of the thing where the price decreases the longer it's been in there. you'd still be able to get it at a discount but it wouldn't lower any further than the initial pawn shop price. i'd prefer that to getting rid of it entirely.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
Collects all the two cents here. Goes off to buy CWs. 😄
I'm all for changes if it's going to please all parties in the end and not just one. Other than that, you can't really form an opinion on this rn without even knowing how it all might turn out. Personally, I'm quite curious about this change and I'm positive it's a good one for all of us once it's due.
Reminder that you have almost an entire month to get the items you want from the pawn shop (including ones that are added between now and then!) and also that the items aren't vanishing, we're putting them in a top secret vault to pull out during sales or other events in the future.
Also that we're taking all of this feedback very seriously and working to create a middle ground where custom wearables are cheaper for users, cheaper for creators, and easier to get on the site. There is a fine line in walking around the fact that now more than 20,000 items on the site are custom wearables and you will not be able to get every single one. Someone said in an earlier comment that the point of a game should be working toward getting things that you want - and I think that is mostly true. However, in any game there are items that are downright impossible to get. Every game has these items, and it is just working out that Subeta will have a couple more of them.
Beyond that, the things that we're working on for 2017 are almost entirely not focused on the avatar outside of being part of a larger system. We're working on new ways to interact with Subeta, build item, etc, that will hopefully fill a lot of the gaps in items that you want :)
Oh wow....this is a hot mess of complaints.
I'm gonna say here what I said elsewhere - the pawn shop is hurting creators and releasers. I'm sorry to everyone who's sad that they can't wait 3+ months after something goes into pawn to buy it for 300 csc, but that thing cost me (as a non-artist releaser) in the neighborhood of $50+ to get on site more than likely.
For those of you complaining about initial slot pricing - WE DO NOT LIKE IT EITHER! We're trying to come up with solutions in discussion with Keith and staff that will not negatively impact the site, but will afford more dynamic submission pricing (and hopefully smaller initial batches) so that we can get things on the site more cheaply (which means cheaper slots for everyone, yay!). But there's not a lot we can do when just commissioning an item already puts us somewhere around $30 down (and this is no criticism to artists - y'all deserve to be paid fairly for your work). Now then, I have an item that has to go in the 5k submission category, that means in order for me to not pay a single csc to submit myself and keep my cost solely at the $30 I spent already, the item has to be submitted at 625 csc per slot and has to fill 8 slots that are not me or my artist. And that isn't to make a profit or even break even, that's just to not have to spend more. If I want to break even on a 2 batch item in that same category, I'd have to price every slot at roughly 723 csc. TO BREAK EVEN. This does not get me any 'profit' (also, really, I dunno who is making a profit in this market anymore at all tbh - most of us are losing with every submission, sometimes quite a lot).
I'm not here to argue about entitlement or privates or whatever silly reason someone has to blame the slow decline of the market - the biggest factors are the cost and the lack of people willing to slot. Yes, some items are niche. Yes, some items are similar to others. But I have had to cover slots and spend even more out of pocket just to get something on site only to watch the remaining few copies that went into my CW shop disappear within minutes. That's not because people don't want them, it's because people think "I'll get it from their shop later" or "I'll get it from Pawn later" or even "I don't particularly like them so I don't want to slot". I have literally nobody blocked, so it's not like people can't come and claim a slot on it if they want it. But they don't want to help get it on site because they can snatch it up later, which means that instead of actually being able to release things, I have to scrimp and save and sell off my collection in order to submit. And part of that is the submission cost eating into my pricing and forcing me to put things higher than I would like, but not all of it.
This is really disappointing, honestly. Like many other Subeta users I'm sure, I don't have a lot of spare change IRL, but I like to scrape together what I can to support Subeta because it's a great community and I want it to keep going. I can only afford to spend maybe $10 every couple of months (sometimes more because I have no self-control lol), so naturally I want to maximize what I can buy with that csc. The wardrobe is also the main draw of Subeta for me; I make several HAs a day and I love seeing all the beautiful items the site comes out with.
However, as someone in this situation, the CW market, and therefore the HA community, is incredibly alienating. I'm so sick of seeing a beautiful item on someone's HA, asking them what it is, and realizing it's an expensive CW I could never afford unless it showed up in the pawn shop. This is especially true of CWs that make up for noticeable shortfalls in site items, like full-length dresses, large wings, and especially makeup and body texturing items (because let's face it, the HA base's skin is super flat and plastic and really sticks out without layering things over it). I feel like, since I can't afford full-price CWs, the pawn shop is the only way I can keep up with the Subeta HA community, which is relying more and more on CWs. Removing it cuts me and others who can't afford CWs off completely from a huge part of the site, and for me, one of the main draws. This is especially frustrating because it seems like a lot of the pawn shop's problems could be fixed just by clearing it more regularly.
You're saying this is the first step in an overhaul of the CW system; I think that's incredibly important but I also think this is a pretty bad first step. Why not keep the pawn shop until it's no longer needed, like you did with the cults? This and other changes (like the donation presents only having five items) seem to have been made in an effort to maximize profits for Subeta— which I totally respect, as it's probably hella expensive to run a site like this. Thanks for giving us Subeta and CWs in the first place. Still, I'm pretty disappointed that the first step in a system (hopefully) meant to make CWs more accessible is to make them all but completely inaccessible for a lot of people. It seems like just reforming the pawn shop or even delaying closing it until other changes have been made would be better.
Is there anything users can do to support Subeta when we can't necessarily do so financially? I try to spread the word when I can; is there anything else we can do that will hopefully make changes like this unnecessary?
I have so many thoughts about this but I don't want to get into the drama of it.
I'll put my two cents in, even if it isn't wanted. And, maybe, a reason why CWs have lowered in interest.
I remember when CWs came out and it was wonderful. Cool. Yeah, you had to be there for batches (some were unlimited, others were 2-4 batches, but it was fair as it could be for people who did not want a million of their CWs around) and I liked that. Even if I missed out, I knew I had my fair chance and there might be another one around the block. Then, CW makers started doing the "friend only/exclusive" (which is within their rights, but it does keep many from wanting a CW, especially if the artist does it with every single release, which I saw some people doing and a reason I stopped buying because if I'm not a friend or in a certain group, why bother with that artist's CWs anymore?) or auctions. Where they'd make a batch, most would go to friends and then they'd sell one or two for crazy prices. Like, over the price it takes to get a CW made. For ONE CW! It went from being a fun thing where users could have some items on the site and make a bit of CSC or money or whatever to I just want to see how much I can get for this. I stopped then. Not because I didn't have the money, but because why am I paying so much for a CW, especially when there were people still doing it the old way? Plus, it's not fun, anymore. It became like this exclusive club and only certain people could get in. I DO NOT blame CW makers/artists for going the auction route (though I would feel bad when they do the auction, where someone paid a LOT, then have a release of the item or auction another, when they said they wouldn't), because there's way more money in it, but you also run away people who are not going to pay an astronomical price for an item, no matter how gorgeous the item is.
When the pawn shop started making CWs available and you'd, sometimes, see those "auction" pieces, it was wonderful. That winner didn't want the piece anymore or they wanted CSC for another piece and, now, it was available for someone else. That was at the discretion of the person who paid quite a bit for it, not the CW maker, even if it was their art; they sold it, so yeah. Then, when CW makers realized people were doing that, they told people not to pawn it, which is kind of silly because, once it's in someone's possession, it's their business what they do with it. You still got paid for your item/work. Are you just upset that someone, paid for it again, but got it cheaper than, say, 3k CSC? Do they think someone sold it because it was ugly or something? I really don't get being upset because someone sold your item. It's better than deleting it or letting it rot in their wardrobe or vault and it's back in circulation. Of course, if you sold it, anyway, you'd, sometimes, be black listed and some wouldn't sell you CWs because you might pawn it. To me, if there is less interest in CWs, there is a big chance this is a reason. It was, for me. While I appreciate the beautiful art people make and I will pay a REASONABLE price for it, I'm not interested in extremely overpriced (in my opinion, mind you) CWs or being told what I can and can't do with an item that is, technically, mine or be passed over when others make a CW I want because I displeased a certain CW maker. I rarely pawn any CWs because I don't buy things I do not want, but there were a few that I found I couldn't use anymore, so they got pawned. It wasn't like I thought the item was ugly or just wanted CSC for it.
Whenever users are in charge of things, some get kind of "power hungry", which we saw, and here we go, now the pawn shop isn't even going to have them available, anymore, to try and make the CW market more profitable? I do not think this is going to renew interest in CWs if that same reason (being expensive or incredibly exclusive) is going to exist. Who wants to participate in a system where they, most likely, can't get anything? Plus, you can only make so many variations of something before people get bored of the item. Yes, life isn't fair, but that goes both ways. If you want your CWs to go for a certain price, well, not everyone is going to be willing or able to buy. So, if your profits are down because of that, either make it fair or deal with it.
I think the only thing that made me scratch my head, was the fact that less than a month ago they stated they were clearing out the 6+ month older cws out of the pawn shop, but would keep them for special occassions, and now they're closing the shop altogether. I was like mkay... just seemed funny to do that and then this so soon after, but I'm going to assume it's because at the time of the clearing, they didn't really know that they were going to be closing the shop. lol.
I've read most of the comments (honestly I couldn't read them all, too much and my brain is getting fried lol), but I don't mind this idea at all. It's actually quite interesting. I know a lot of the complaints from users is how expensive csc has gotten to purchse via sP. It didn't used to cost that much. In the beginning of cws, when ppl were able to sell a lot, people that couldn't afford to by csc with real money, bought it through user shops with their sP and so they were still able to buy cws (though perhaps not quite as often). I remembered when the pawn shop was first implemented and a lot of users (mostly us sellers) really disliked the idea- but it was implemented anyways. I think it was a way to hope that people that were complaining about not being able to obtain a cw, could get one- but in the end, it destroyed the subeta economy as a whole.
Suddenly, prices for cws in general went up- and that's not because artists were charging more (understand, the ones that charge more do so because they're in demand & not because of the price of cws for the general users)- but the prices went up, batches went down to retain resale value and the r200 selling forum was less frequented because of the pawn shop. It was fast, convenient and simply made it easier on the general buyer to get csc fast so they could slot on a new exciting item they wanted.
I have seen numerous times, a user buy a cws on the impulse- and sell it or pawn it the very next day because it 'didn't work'. As a seller, that hurts our bottom line- so we tighten our batches to discourage people just willy-nilly tossing the item aside. Most people who pawn items in the real world have usually gotten more than one days use out of them and so it's understandable why the value has gone down- but the difference is, that in the real world, most people prefer to buy new, as opposed to used because sometimes the used stuff doesn't work as well (not all the time of course). But in cw-land, the cw's never look 'used' only older art is old... but the value still has gone down for one reason or another and the only person that benefits from the pawn shop is the future buyer- who can get an item at a discount- but all before that get burned.
Also, remember, it's said that this is the first step. More is to come and there's an entire month to get what you want until it's no longer purchasable. I do like they're leaving it open for selling for those that still want to make some quick csc. Curious as to what sort of events will be used/done to reopen for selling tho... lol.
Also- Just so you know, that once a cw is submitted to subeta, they own the rights to it already- so them doing this isn't them suddenly taking control- they've always had it because it's now become property of "Agoge, Inc." Just so you're aware (it's in the T&C of cws). ^.^
TL;DR Meh, whatever, I didn't use it that much anyways- and if it fixes the economy- I'm all for it! Tired of struggling to sell cws.... 8I
Ahh such a shame, I wish I could afford more of them, I see a lot of nice ones. :(
Well this sucks. I pretty much only buy cws from the pawn shop anymore. Oh well, there's no like no reason for to spend real money on here now.
i'm going to wishlist every cw on site and then search by wishlist
but no seriously, a database like this would be super cool!!
, I'd love to see a very brief re-opening for a cool site event...Maybe a mysterious little resale shop on the outskirts of Peka-boo 2.0 (A PERSON CAN DREAM OKAY), it just sounds so cute. I guess I'm ok with seeing it go for the time being, though!
I imagine most users would filter by ones actually in cw shops / user shops which would make that much lower
Keith, thanks for the answer. I can see that being very helpful when searching during gift-buy sessions (not having to search for them one by one), so I really hope the friend's wishlist or even specific users CW wishlist option makes it (sometimes I buy for random people I find around the site).
That's what I took away from reading that, that it might be open during Black Friday or perhaps some event that happens that maybe makes a tie-in to CW type items. (I can't think of one, but I don't put anything past the creative team here, especially with the cool random summer events that take place). A small window when perhaps we could buy what people had pawned over the year, probably depending on how the market was doing at the time.
"Viewing 1 - 25 of 20873" damn keith ur ambitious that's a lot of cws
Aww, I loved the CW pawn shop...dang. The only thing I have a question on is, "unless we open the page for a special event"...huh? Maybe I'm missing something kinda vital, but that seems weird to me. Would the event be like, a yearly, "dump all your old stuff and see if someone will buy it" day? Or a black Friday type deal consisting of things people have pawned over the year? (This sounds a tad catty, but I don't mean it like that, I promise! I'm actually curious and a bit confused as to what would reopen it...reopening it for black Friday every year could be really cool!)
Right now I want to build it up so that there is a central custom wearable page, which has a list of ALL custom wearables on the site. You can drill that down to ones that are in custom wearable shops, user shops, trades, on your wishlist, and maybe if we're able to, ones that are on friends wishlists.
and by "no one wants" I mean the seller no longer wanted. I'm tried. :P
Slow golf clap. Should totally be fun searching the r200 forums for older items I missed and really want. Wishing I hadn't gotten into CWs. I avoided them for years.
I have to say I am curious to see what these "other methods of selling directly to users" are, considering we have the forums for new batches, forums for CWs no one wants, trades and user-run CW shops. What the heck is missing other than a 'dump it here and hope you guys want some of this crap' later place? Maybe some combination wishlist/fulfillment center? You plug in the CWs you want and then people go to sell the ones they don't want and if someone is looking for that item, they get a message or something of what someone is selling it for, if there is no desire, the user can just pawn it out of existence? As I said, definitely curious if anything actually does wind up existing other than the options there are already.
Like someone else asked,does this mean we won't be able to purchase with CSC anymore? That's my concern.
I think they fixed it so you can't pawn ones you won or certain ones. I won one from an event and kept it for a while but wanted something else. I looked to pawn it but was not able to.
I have mixed feelings about this. Of course, seeing CW no longer "devalued" is always a good thing. But at the same time, I love finding a deal in the Pawn Shop.
Why? :( I hope your not planning on getting rid of CW completely or only available for certain events.
Also "Use the r200 forums" isn't a good suggestion when we aint had a functional forum search in 87 years.
I am not really sure what is going on or why it is happening, but I will just throw my 2 cents in anyway. I have a CW shop and I have had a few items created for me to sell in it. I have never bothered with making a board to create batches because I never really understood how to do it and it just seemed confusing. I just submit them directly to my shop. All of the items I have had released on site were basically just because I wanted to wear them myself. I never figured I would make a profit, or even thought about "breaking even". I just wanted to be able to "design" my own clothes for my HA :D. If anyone else bought one of my dresses, I was just thrilled that someone else liked something that I loved. I have always looked at like if someone bought a dress from me and then sold it in the pawn shop it would give someone else a chance to have that dress at a price that they could afford. Then someone else could have a dress that they like. I am always so happy to see my dresses posted around on the forums and see how creative people can be with them ❤ it always makes me happy! I have had a few items that I just had made for a friend of mine because she loves to cosplay a character and these items were made special for her. Those are the only items that were not available in my shop for anyone to buy. I am going to miss the pawn shop because it was a great way for everyone to have a chance at items that could not be found anywhere else for whatever reason. A lot of times I could find items in there that I didn't even know existed. I love CWs, but I am not willing to scour the boards looking for items and then hope that someone will sell me an item. I don't have to go into the mall and ask them to sell me a sweater and then have to agree to a bunch of rules or be told that I am not a friend or member of a certain ping group. The very few I have bought from the boards thankfully did not do that (or they just asked not to resell or pawn). I just don't want it to get like that again. Bottom line is now I feel like I should just delete my mile long CW wishlist because I really don't see how I can get even half of the items on there if I can only use the pawn shop a few (2,3,4?) times a year. Sorry for rambling for so long.
aw really, I wouldn't pawn nothing back ;P I love cw oh but I was guilty a few times though of like having to pawn ;( its so sad especially when you really love the item but you really want the other item. Oh yeah and I am always kicking myself because you only get 300 csc back or 200 csc for an item you payed 600-700 csc for.
I'm a little disappointed as I visit the CW pawn shop daily, multiple times, not only for WL items but to see if there was something I had never seen before that I would like to buy. I have purchased many CWs from the pawn shop, mostly because I rarely get in on a thread in time to get one so I have to wait til it sells later, and sometimes it never does(so many top hats I need). But, that being said, I look forward to seeing what the replacement for it is so that we can still buy desired CWs, even at regular price. Because don't get me wrong, I didn't shop the Pawn Shop only to get CWs cheap, I shopped there because I didn't get the CW initially for whatever reason and the pawn shop was my 2nd chance. I would gladly pay regular price if only there were enough of the ones I wanted and so many weren't private with never a chance to get one. :( Maybe the new way will make it easier to get a CW when it's released... I can hope anyway.
I can't believe this ? Not happy...sorry but bad move! collecting cw's and putting them on my HA is something I love doing and now I won't be able to do that :(