Thanks for the advice! I'm bored and reading Pacifist all of the books I've been hoarding in my vault. Once I get through those (300+ ugh why do I hoard) I'll look and see what kind of a battle set I can make for Cibphobia. I should do something for him for scrolls, too, but he's only got like 30AP. I'll see what kind of doubles for books I have in my shops ...

We were talking yesterday, after dnd, and my husband asked someone to take notes, just so like we could have a little thing to reference back, since we're only playing once a week (and I have a shit ass memory) and this is what was produced: "Stardate 774 A.G. the year of the kangaroo

Fighter's player: Today we went to a bar and didn't drink, fight or burn anything down. Our counseling sessions seem to be working. We then accepted a task from 2 vampire children out of the goodness of the demon rogues heart and are now balls and lady bits deep in a probably haunted house. Also we killed 2 ghosts and borrowed a fair amount of things

Fighter's player: The End...? P.s. the rogue repeatedly got shut down by the barbarian. Despite impressive violence. Will love win out in the end?

DM: Next time; on a very specially dungeons and dragons"

idkidk it was just super funny to me, I ugly laughed in the lunch room at work.

The expensive books get read to only one pet -- maybe more if I get lucky and score an extra copy or two somehow. Then again, the cheapest book on my WL is selling for 18 mil... lol

- yes, but where do you define expensive. Right now I have it set pretty low. And all sorts of rare books that were selling for much more are now selling in the 50 - 70 K range (unfortunately for my shop income :-) ). On the other hand, if you're talking about Token Shop, BHH, Cash Shop, etc. books, yep they're still all very expensive. I try to get multiple copies when a book shows up in the Token Shop but the others I haven't even really started on. Oh well, I don't really have many good scrolls yet either. (Which comes first - the scroll or the AP? I don't need scrolls if I don't have the AP to use them, and I don't need to read expensive books to increase AP since I don't have many scrolls. ... Now that Tos is T9 and starting to battle some of the bigger challengers, though, I'm starting to work on both books and scrolls.)

- that's one good way to get it done. Think of how much you'll be able to do with all those extra AP points!

Made me laugh too, so guess it's actually funny (or we both have some sort of D&D sense of humor :-) ).

You'll get there! :) I'm trying to get my T9-10s to 100 AP, but it's slow going... Especially since I don't like to spend much on the littles... (By littles, I mean the non-top tier pets.)

At higher tiers those scrolls become vital. The AP costs are high and you will want to equip numerous OPB ones in your set. Gale Force is an example of one I use multiples of (and frequently) and you can get it in the BC -- no sP needed! :)

I finally made my Volatile Energized Mecha. ...I have no idea what to do with it. Time to try it on a challenger.

I don't feel so bad now that I don't read expensive books to my second pet. It's costly enough for my main pet to get them.

Yeah -- you think you'll never spend that much... lol

Use the mecha on your first turn. The blessing/curse lasts 100 rounds so it's a MUST for foes that have long battles... Good Luck & ENJOY! :)

- Thanks. Tos is at 37 AP right now. 81 is already at 22 because I decided to try having a higher AP from the start. There are so many books in my vault though. I have been collecting books since long before I started battling. And, fortunately, I also put them into a vault subcategory so I might actually be able to find most of them. :-)

Yes, I have seen the AP costs for some of the big use scrolls and I would love to get all four pets' AP to at least 100. Someday it would be nice if Tos has read every book on Subeta. I actually wanted to do that before I ever even thought about battling. :-) I have also started to think about using boosters rather than just trying to read books, but I'm not sure where/when that should happen. At least, thanks to this thread I know that's something to try to figure out. :-)

- congratulations on getting that mecha made. Have fun playing with it.

Eventually, you will reach a point where the intel boosters cost less than any of the books you still need. That's when their use will start to appeal to you.

In the meantime, think about what you'd like to have (ideally) as a scroll default set. Maybe some freezers? A good infinite use healer & maybe a healing bomb or two? A couple of good OPB blockers? Decide what you think is ideal & go from there! :)

This is a nice toy. I might need a better blocker or healer scroll to use first round since the challengers that tend to be long fights for me tend to be able to one shot me.

And I don't think I'll spend that much until I've more or less squared away my main pet and shift focus to my second. Which might never happen since I'm not even at T12 yet, so capped stats is very far away.

High AP from the get go is really, really nice. Chums was 'the pet I read to' before I got into battles, and being able to equip pretty much anything I had access to at the time was almost broken at low tiers and invaluable as I progressed (it had like 800-900 intellect when I started I think). And that was with dinky scrolls like Divine Dhenizen, Terra Focujin, and Death Delusion.

I don't have any capped pets, although I do have 2 T13s. In a pinch, you can always use CE or sanct with your opening move so you don't get KO'd out of the gate. Keep up the daily bqs and a year from now you will be one-shotting your foes! ;)

I'm just curious, do you think it is necessary to cap pets? I plan to have my first pet hit T13, go on a boosting spree and then just casually increasing his stats through tomes and spare EXP here and there and focus on the next pet. I'm not sure if it is recommended though. I enjoy beating challengers and the EXP besides the loot drops is one of the main appeals to me. I'm still very very far away from the cap but still just can't imagine what it would feel like to have that one aspect stripped off from my battling experience (the upside though is that I can finally just battle 5 times and stop, I guess).

Congratulations on creating Mecha :D How funny it takes both Chums and Hanson until mid-T11 to finally be able to make that bomb.

If you've got Death Delusion maybe you can craft the Spacial Abyss? It's almost a full block (minus dark and light and -5% heal). I've planned to make one since forever but kept putting it off. I've got all the ingredients but can't seem to part with any of them 😅

I think capping pets is overrated. The important thing is to get the pet's stats where you feel comfortable with them.

One of my T13s has just about reached all of the goals I set for him, so I'll be taking my time with him and God only knows when (if) he'll reach the cap. The other T13 -- I have a clear vision of what I want his final build to look like, so he'll cap first. It's full speed ahead for a while more. Once he gets close to the cap I will probably switch my attention to the third pet on the list & that one will start getting all the bqs -- and so on. Like you said, it's nice getting the experience! :)

I just added a second sanc to my set, which I was just being lazy about doing. T13 is still so far away too, lol. By September or October I should hit T12, which will help me (maybe) get a Shriek of Despair scroll from Nightlady and the water block weapon off Rouland.

I guess I could. There seems to be nothing to lose by doing it since it's not part of any of my regular sets anymore. That was my first big scroll creation, so it's slightly sentimental.

I think that means you had bad luck getting tokens :P. Chums is crummy because I'm lazy and I have no strategy for battles so Impossible wins have been slow and painful.

Thank you for the insight 😄 I'll stick to that little plan of mine then. I've been worried that my unpopular opinion about capping might not be the most recommendable or effective way to battling.

I'll put it down to bad luck for both Chums and Hanson 😄 It's not because you're lazy and have got no strategy; when I finally got 100 impossible tokens I guess I had battled just about as many impossible challengers as you do. At that time I was still stuck with Chase and Kitty and their crits and didn't dare go anywhere near Crawbeast yet.

(EDIT: ~ I pinged wrong. lol)

This will help with some of those bad boys...

MrCools Strategy Guide

I hope you get your shriek this year. You also should be able to defeat Rouland for your MW (I love that weapon!)

$%#&(&#(&*)@!# Crawbeast.

...Maybe I should have kept Swear Words after all.

- I was also wondering whether I need to worry about conserving books. I know that you need at least one book for every AP point, and that some pets have read everything. On the other hand, at least from my current lowly perspective, it seems like that would be more than enough AP to deal with any challenger anyway. :-)

That's part of the problem. I've read the scroll guide, but haven't done that much working with them, so I really have no idea what my ideal scroll default set would be. And I see so much variation from challenger to challenger. I see battlers talking about using their 3 GoTFs or 4 Shrieks but have no real idea what would happen without them, or with a different scroll/weapon set. I've been lucky lately to be be able to borrow and work with a few different scrolls and am starting to figure it all out but I think this will take some time. Having scroll hovers now also helps because before I often had no clue what a scroll did even if it was being discussed. Finally, there is of course the issue of make the best expensive scroll once - or make a more affordable scroll and make do. I know you said to think about an ideal set, but at least for me, effective use of sP is part of ideal.

And doesn't your idea scroll set depend on your weapons? I'm still working on those too. Mostly there are just too many somewhat interchangeable pieces for me to feel comfortable. I'm just hoping that changes as I keep getting more and more battle experience.

- wow - I can't imaging starting out with that much intel/AP. My first battle pet, Tos, who is T9 still only has an AP of 37 and an intel of 596.

😂 LOL so apt. Swear Words would sum up your reactions to Crawbeast's crits so well haha.

I'll need all the strategy help I can get. Nightlady wiped the floor with me last year and I'm not sure I even attempted Rouland. He still might be too much for me to handle, but at least I seem to have access to a lot of weapons recommended to be used against him.

I didn't do a lot here for a long time other than pick up new books for Chums. I didn't even realize it was useful for anything, honestly.

Swear Words sums up my reaction to so very many things.

At top tiers, I rely heavily on scrolls and think 100 AP is minimal. My top pet has 275 AP and I still have to switch scrolls in and out at times.

Looking at my 5 default scroll sets (from 42 AP on up) they all have aftershocks. Any good infinite use healer will suffice -- you don't need to use a specific scroll.

Gelaspell is in several sets too since it is infinite use w/ like 25% chance to freeze... It isn't until 100 AP that my sets start showing psycho/shrieks. The bigger blockers show up around T3-5, but they need to be switched for every different foe.

So I guess I'm saying get a good IU healer first. Once you have that, you can add/subtract OPB freezers and blockers as needed. Start with things like PW in lieu of psych/shrieks until you have the sP and AP. As you win better scrolls, you will find a way to squeeze them in your set. :)