Hm, okay then. Thanks for the information.

I'm guessing Maleria asking for 3 items per quest is a recent result of the above study, then?

I really wish Saggi would go back to where he used to be giving out lots more SP. Now it's very little. Maleria doesn't need to be changed. Cinthia needs an upgrade though. Her payments are so low.

The last weeks Saggitarius gives to me sp between 150K and 200K per quest. Sometimes he his rewards are even near the 400K I earn near the 750k or the 1 milj sp, when I did all his quests. I quit very seldom. So he is absolutely profitable again. More than a few mounts ago. Well, for me he's really kind.

so Maleria has change guess i missed some thing some were

For me Saggi's quests have been disappointing the last few days. Every other item he asks for seems to be between 30k through 60k each. Paying out close to 200k for 4 items to get 96k back is just mean Saggi XD. I don't mind losing some sP on the quests now and then but I have 16 pets to look after and pet train.

I miss the fun and wider variety of items like he use to ask for before all the changes happened to him. If quests ask for the same items all the time it drives the prices so high quests are not even worth trying since the items get deleted off the site anyway.

Why not have quests ask for the Fake Rainbow Star Rod since Recycle Beast stopped asking for it a long time ago. It's confusing to know how to deal with the quests nowadays. They shouldn't be on an untouchable level so hard they aren't even worth trying and they shouldn't be so easy that you earn points without doing much effort. I was hoping they would meet somewhere in the middle being fun, educations and enjoyable. Thank you kindly ^_^.

Saggi was really bad, but then he seemed like he'd been tweaked to be better again after he was the weekend quest. However, the past 4-5 days he's been pretty greedy and giving way less in reward. It's frustrating when his quests are also the most time consuming at 3-4 items per.

I lost 100k yesterday and today, too, in Saggi´s quests. Only stating for general input, not complaining, it´s a game after all and perhaps not every quest-giver feels generous every day, LOL

With how much quentin took from me today, I'm surprised it doesn't show in keiths results. Almost 100k. It was as if none of her sp rewards were even NEAR worth it. Glad Sag and Wiz were there to help.

I don't mind Saggi's quests being changed so he gives out less sP (he really did over-reward for a very long time), but the constant changes to his reward output are getting a little frustrating at this point. For example, before he was the weekend quest he was a bit stingy compared to his former payouts, which is fine considering he really wasn't stingy at all compared with the other questers if you paid attention to quantity, item price, and rarity with each quest; however, after he was the weekend quest last time he almost seemed to stay at weekend quest levels for a couple of weeks (I made 1.5M-2M sP pretty much everyday during Morostide, which is admittedly way too much). Now he's back to being kinda stingy again (300k-500k per day for the prior 4-5 days now). I truly don't mind the current payouts at all, but what I do mind is never knowing whether I should bother spending the time doing his quests first, last, or not at all because the formula is still a moving target months after his revamp was supposed to be complete. Testing things is important and much appreciated, but at this point the large variance in Saggi's quests over the past number of months going back to the original revamp has started to seem kind of like nails on a chalkboard that just won't quit.

I don't know I also made around 1-2mil during Morostide and now around 300k. Although that is too high seems some things are still out of whack as with the quest value given for 3 items. Today was horrible and I couldn't complete hardly any. I have noticed when asked for 4 items I can for the most part do it (with somewhat of a profit) but when asked for 3 items hardly is it worth it. And I got 3 items only today so horrible luck. And the 3 items has been for awhile, but just today. Although I think rares/supers should be higher value saggi only gives sp so his value should be more consistent. At least with the other questers I may not get my sp back that I spent, I got items that I can sell.

I had to quit SEVERAL of Saggi's quests in the last two days and of the ones I thought I might actually make profit on, I only did on like 2. It's not that he's giving out low profits. It's that the items themselves in user shops are shooting up in price; in some cases the items are no longer even in shops. Rares are becoming more rare than super rares in both price and how they are given out. So many of my SRs sit around unsold and dropped below 10k while rares are skyrocketing again. When I get a 4 item quest from Saggi and see all the items at 50-60k it's not worth it, because he only gives 100-200k . . . and usually it's something like 113k.

Is he supposed to ask for 60k, 70k, 80k items now because that is exactly what he is doing making his quests not worth messing with for me. I apologize if my above post sounded unkind. I didn't mean for his quest to be made even harder then they were before. What I meant by educational was grouping certain items together that relate to the land Saggi is from like a type of Subeta culture. These new expensive quests will break me and I will have to let most of my pets go because I won't be able to afford them anymore and I'm okay with that. I hope Saggi quests are kind to everyone else on the site ^_^. Thank you kindly :).

Thanks for the added detail! I've seen you mention that the coding adjustments have been pretty limited before too and have tried keeping that in mind but thought some new testing must have been going on in recent weeks. The weird thing for me is that the cost of my quests hasn't changed at all for the most part throughout the past number of months (I spend a little too much time paying attention to item rarities/values when doing Saggi quests :P). That's been the one constant with what appears to be normal variation from day to day/quest to quest ever since the original revamp earlier in the year, and the only change I've noticed to the items he asks for recently has been a small uptick to the amount of super rares requested per quest in recent weeks (small enough to where it may just be luck of the draw too).

It was the quest output that changed so drastically for me. I know that doesn't jive with the analysis results you've been posting, so I'm not sure if I just ran into the best 2-3 week streak of good luck with Saggi or what. While I'm not sure what was going on, Saggi went from rarely ever rewarding 200k+ for a quest to rewarding me 200k-400k+ for single quests multiple times a day beginning with his last weekend quest in October and continuing through about a week ago (seriously, I actually thought somehow the system glitched and Saggi was mistakenly continuing to give out weekend quest rewards weeks after his weekend ended). I stopped losing points altogether on his quests during that time (there were rarely ever quests where I didn't make double to triple what I paid), and I was still paying roughly the same amount I had been for his quests prior to this happening.

No you weren´t the only one with really good luck during Morostide. I can second that impression. I made between 1,5-3m sp every day. And yes that´s way too much.

And after Morostide the payouts didn´t just drop but became horrible. Hence my post here. I have done all quests every day and not quit a single one to see what the payouts may be. Almost every day I loose sp on more than 7 quests, one time I lost sp on 10 (!!!) quests. I can´t imagine user´s faces that don´t have a GA.

And -for me at least- it´s difficult to believe that´s all "bad luck" or "high user shop prices". Because not the shop prices changed that much but the payouts.

I don´t mind lower payouts. I liked it when he gave out 350-400k daily. You knew exactly which quests to quit and which quests were profitable. Now he is unpredictable as hell.

Today I only made about 400k and had to quit more then half the quests because he was asking for crazy high priced items