- I like the way you think. I also think that your quote needs to be added to my list of Subeta advice. 1.) Nothing is ever truly retired. 2.) A Saggi quest you cannot finish is a lesson in restocking. 3.) When you need sp, extort the battling community. 4.) Do not bank on 'eventually', 'maybe', or 'soon'. etc...etc...

That said, I am missing the restocking aspect of this holiday, but I think I've already voiced myself on that topic in news posts recently.

I came back after a year of hiatus and I have found that items seem to be a lot cheaper. Rarity 99s shouldn't be selling for around 17k. and that's only one example of the cheap rare items I've come across while restocking. I find restocking to be more disappointing than enjoyable now.

I could just go play games and earn sp that way, but I find the games to be boring. I don't want games to become my main source of sp.

Some more high rarity items that aren't going for much these days (rarity 90+):

I tagged you because you were here suggesting and backing up claims about games being a fantastic alternative and to possibly help you unwedge whatever crawled up your ass.

I came here YEARS ago before HA's were even part of the site, I came for the pets, having pet treasure, battling, etc. I know how shitty TNT was to everyone, this place isn't becoming neopets, it's becoming Zynga.

It's not me that tastes bitter

I posted something once. The games, for the moment at least, do provide a good amount of money. If the amount on the games lowers, I'll still play caliph's tomb because I like it and it's simple. But I just make 600K from selling 28 15 point wizard tokens. And the quests only took me about 30 minutes on a fairly slow connection. There's ways to make sP.

I didn't realize you had rules to not be tagged in posts you're participating in, I'll be sure to not bother keeping a mental record of that.

P.S. Everyone, people still use dial up, believe it or not. Games are so extremely not conducive for people on dial up, nor restocking, by a long-fucking-shot.

I wasn't implying you were not here before me. However, if you've been with the site for this long, why rage quit now over something that may be reversed?

P.S. my connection is slow and my computer is ancient and playing caliph's tomb lags the fuck out of my computer. I still manage just fine.

It's not JUST this, it's a stack of things over the last year. Other quests have been gutted as well, in addition to prize types being scrapped altogether, or the book drive, omg do I even need to say anything past book drive?

R99 isn't the hardest rarity for restockables, r98 is, because r99s are given out by lizard events and crack the safe

It's not only r99s that have taken a big hit. I included some non-rarity 99's in my post. Lizard events and crack the safe wins are rare, and don't flood the system with enough rarity 99s to lower the prices to what they're currently at.

Hi, Zay here you know 's friend. Yeah, uh... I liked questing before things were "revamped". Maybe it's just me, but I'm kind of seeing it as a step backwards? To me, I don't want a bunch of items that are going to sit in my vault or shop and collect dust. I want sp. There's no way to sugar coat it. I used to be able to buy a month gold account no problem, and I didn't find anything wrong with that. Now, I'm down to almost being bone-dry on sP. Telling me to play games with a computer like mine is like telling a 3 year old to write a book report. It's just, frustrating. Quests used to be fun and even with a dinosaur of a computer like mine I could make a nice little profit, even though they're timed. It's not just my computer though, it's the lag from the site itself. I'd get into that, but that's going off topic.

Long story short: sP from quests > items from quests. For me, this made sense.

For future reference: Saggitarius Quests: About 25/30 completed Start sP: 460,176 End sP:1,548,374 Gain: 1,088,198

Over years and years and years and years?

r98 and r97 have always been more expensive than the r99 restocking in the same shop. Also, aside from the Pumpkin Stick Candy, all of the high rarity items you have posted are OLD AS BALLS. Like, they were all around, or almost all around when I first joined. So, they have been restocking for 5 years, so of course, they'll be cheap.

For me, the quest changes are an incredibly underhanded way to "encourage" users to buy Gold Accounts. The only really logical way you're going to turn all those items you got from your quests into sP is by auto-pricing your shop, which is a hardcore feature of the GA. That for me has been my biggest "igh" to the quest changes.

Whether they're old or not, they shouldn't be that cheap; they're supposed to be "rare". Some of those older items are food, beanbags, and wearables, items that can be used and easily taken out of the system, but that is either not happening or too many of them are being spat out into the shops.

Revamped quests will contribute to this with the lower rarity items - too many items are flooding the system with not enough users to buy them/want to buy them.

If you want to make them expensive, you have to give them a point other than having them for collections, because you buy one and never need another again, so why buy another?

Useless items are cheap items, and with all collections, one is enough.

There is a solution. Mass retirement. Another solution is just to remove SBQ from the pool of items Saggi can ask for and we have more doable quests from him, therefore, more high rarity items turned to him.

I'm on dial-up and live in a remote town that literally last month started offering high speed internet. I hate the games because they're not fun when you're waiting five mins for one fraction of the board to load. Mallarchy Pond is the most I manage without clawing my eyes out. The quests are one of the few things I can manage on my dial up. I won't even do them if in not going to get a return on them. Hell, I barely can manage the forums because of all of the images posted everywhere. I'm glad directed me here for the simple fact someone needs to speak for dial up users.

I agree with this! :/

I agree with you on that. The older, more useless high rarity items, need to be retired or at least given another purpose. Nothing stays retired here forever and having them taken out for a few years could fix things.

Actually, that's what I was critiquing - the argument (not yours, as it happens xD ) apparently was "we don't want this much sP going out, see this graph right here, therefore we're going to change quests." My (admittedly longwinded) comment was meant to point out that if they're so concerned with the amount of sP going into the system, they need to not just focus on quests because games pump a lot in, too.

I also see a followup point I didn't address...if the point is actually that they just want to revamp quests, then that should be the reason. End of story. Just, "we're revamping because we want to." Showing around a graph of all the sP going into the system utterly ignores the other sP vectors, such as games, and completely undercuts the argument of "well, there's too much sP going into the system, therefore QUESTS."

TL; DR - if they're worried about sP, there should be a strategy that addresses things like games, too, instead of calling quests the problem and putting in more games that pump more sP into the system and calling it good. On the other hand, if it isn't about total sP at all, then showing graphs of total sP is more than a little misleading.