Major Quest Update

All of the quests on the site have been updated !
They all now run on a similar base, and should work much better (no more item eating! We know you really have them ;)!)
Also this allows us to monitor the ratio (and amount) of sP/item between the quests, so we know what to change.
Because of this change, you may notice that some of your favorite quests have been changed. They might be giving out more (or less) sP, different items, etc. We will be working over the next few days to even things out, and make all the quests (at least a little. even if it's only 1/20 quests) profitable. :)
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like the way things are going so far. Makes it fair and interesting

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by snog
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I terribly miss the random items that appears inbetween wizard's quests. Seeing tokens every time is a bit like . It certainly lowers the price of the tokens a bit, though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

ARGH!!! WHY IS THE WIZARD EXCHANGE BROKEN?!?! TOO MANY TOKENS!!! XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by HollyAnnR
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I pretty much agree with what many people said here.

The "You've Quit This Quest" page is really unnecessary. I mean, it's just another page to click "Back". It was fine without that page.

The Wizard Quest is Ok, but I wouldn't mind having either a better payout (so it's worth doing the quests) or maybe have a random item other than the tokens - although, the tokens are also good, providing they stay at 10 or 15.

And the Saggi Quests...Ow. It was bad enough whenever he asked for one expensive item...but to have him as for FOUR expensive items? No way. Seriously, I had him ask me to get 4 items, all within the prices of 70k-unbuyable. And what would I get in return? Maybe 16k? Not worth it. What good is doing a quest when you can't even do it because it's too expensive? I mean...I can understand maybe a few quests from him that couldn't be done because it was too expensive...but to have 17 out of 20 quests not do-able because it's too expensive (only to be able to do 3 out of those 20)? That's just not fun/worth it then.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by LilyValentine
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I really miss the cool items from the Wizard. The tokens are great, but I loved occasionally getting something totally random.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Do we really need an extra "you quit this quest" page? Trying to farm for more page hits, Subeta? XP

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Malabui
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I tried doing the Shinwa quest today. I had done no other quest today and found that I couldn't complete it because the costs of the items were far too high.

The Library Quests each cost over 30k with only 2 that were affordable and the Maleria quests... were just far too expensive to do.

Please can you not nearly ask for 4 expensive items for each Maleria quests. Is there any chance of limiting each quest to 1 or 2 items. The more items you have to give, the more it costs you for a no better prize that you would have gotten for 1 item and its even worse for those who are still on Dial Up.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Moro_115
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I have to agree with people who are saying put them back... I used to like doing Maleria and Library and Toy quests just as "little quests" on the side... I could make the money from Saggi that I needed to do all my wiz quests but that hasn't happened since the change.

I know you guys all worked hard on it, and I appreciate your commitment but... I think you had it right before. shot

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I've tried Sag, Wiz & Maleria quests today. Sag isn't much different except that he asks for 4 items instead of 1-2, I made about the same as I always did. Wiz isn't much different except no items as rewards, the SP returns aren't much & are all over the place (from 500 SPs to 4K). But Maleria is a total rip off, asking for 4 items totalling thousands of SPs. I gave up after 16 quests without getting a single one. And the extra step added in after you click give up is redundant & a waste of time. Wish they'd change them back, also.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Kittycatrat
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Woa! I love the Saggi quests even more now! I'll bet I can earn 300k more and make it to 8 mil!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Oh, wait...I didn't realize that the sP prize had been returned to the wizard quests. goes off to get some more tokens from the wizard...and hopefully make a profit

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Maleria is REALLY disappointing me now, and that was the only quest I found worth doing since the change in the wizard quest formats. I've lost 70K just doing two quests for her today. Before, I actually had a 50/50 chance of making a profit. Now, about the only chance I'd have to make a profit is if I happened to have both items she wanted somewhere in my account already. I am not a happy camper at the moment...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Dani
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I think the quests should be put back the way they were, especially because of this controversy.
After all of the lag and the staff changes, this doesn't really help the cause. This doesn't help dial-up members at all. Saggi guests have been changed to 3 4 item quests, and that's how many people (including me) get money, so this really doesn't help and I haven't even tried other quests...but I'm not really sure I want to.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rabbit_Insanity
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Votes for put the quests back the way they were Its boring and pointless now to do most of them. X.x

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Jenflower
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">The toy Quests, Petes Quest, Graveyard, Library..all the same. they are horrible now

I haven't tried the Library quests and I agree about the Graveyard and Toy, but I can't see a difference with Pete's quest. It looks like it's using the same format as it did before: only one rarity item for a similar rarity item plus sP. That's what it was before, wasn't it. Have you tried it?

I personally would like to see another quest use this format - it's so boring to have them all be the same. Pete is definitely a 'win some/ lose some' quest due to the fact that some high rarity items are cheap, but it's still nice to have a quest work a little differently than the others.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by ScarletKitsune
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I approve of the changes in Wizard quests. I was really sad when the sP prize went away the first time, so I'm glad to have it back. Random rare prizes were cool, but not a horrible loss in my opinion.

However, I usually do Sagittarius if I want to get sP without having to stock my shop (which especially is bad since the GA glitch), and now it seems like I can't make nearly so much off of him. 3+ items makes me cry a little.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rabbit_Insanity
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they ruined Maleria. I like how she gave out 10K and a item before. A random rarity item.. sometimes I'd get junk, sometimes I'd get something really rare. And a flat rate ofa bout 10K was NICE> Now her quests SUCK. Suck big time. -.-

and The toy Quests, Petes Quest, Graveyard, Library..all the same. they are horrible now

I know Subeta staff are just trying to fix them, but please put those four back the way they were! The way they are now is horrible.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by PinkIsMyColor
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these quests stink big time. this is where i use to make my sp's. now i can't hardly make any doing any of the quests, that is if the quests are worth doing which most is not.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I would never have spent 60k on a wizard quest. That's part of the challenge to doing these quests, it's to figure out when they're worth your while and when to quit them. Personally, I won't spend over 30k for a wizard quest. I just finished my 40 (I quit 3 because they were too expensive), and after the sP he gave me is added in I spent a total of 136179 sP on 37 15 point wizard tokens. That's less than 4000 sP per 15 point token. I'd say I did well. I didn't pay as close attention to the Saggi quests I did last night, but I know after 30 I think ended up about 500,000 sP ahead or so? Just be careful you don't spend too much.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Fringe
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there still seems to be a problem with the items missing still

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Giannabionda
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I'm spending a lot with the new quest system... and I'm quite angry because he is giving only wizard tokens and not the other cool items that he usually gave!!
I spent 60k for 15 WT and 500 sp!!! And not only once!

I want the items back!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by SANSA_998
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WOW! I don't need to buy a GA anymore. XD
Thanks a bundle.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

well, that makes my decission to not buy any GA easier, now there will be no bennefits I want from it. Sure autopricer was nice, but if i am no longer stocking up on items from the quests, i will no longer have 5 pages in my shop to do at once.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

This is AMAZING =0000 Thank you staff, thank you!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Fier0
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You don't have my item! Come back when you do!

Did you forget Item Hunt? xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Scarlett
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Aww. No items from the Wizard? That was part of the fun. I'd get excited if I got a great UB and be dissappointed when the quests were over. Now... I'm not so sure I'll be doing that many quests anymore.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Jenflower
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Toastie: that is one of the new features. 30 for non-GAs and 40 for GAs.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Perfection
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No items from the wiz dies

Why can I do 30 quests even though i'm not a GA?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Orchipea
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begins to plead that Maleria be put back the way she was I used to love the fact that she gave out a guaranteed amount of sp. No matter what you gave her it was 10250sp. And I LOVED that! It was the one quest where I felt I was on steady ground... and now she is a ridiculous waste of time, as the items are a lot more expensive than what she gives back.

On the plus side, I love that the wiz gives sp again And I love getting tokens, and not other items prepares to be stoned Although, I am afraid that token prices are going to drop like mad, and this includes the value of token shop items, like the Aemis. I'm still trying out a few of the quests, and so far Maleria is the only one I am really unhappy about.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by smeak
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Using the Tokens on the Vending machines is not the same as getting rare items from the wizard. It's actually as if hte wizard gave out indecent prizes O_o


Yeah I would have to agree with this....I have pumped hundreds of tokens in the Vending Machine and gotten JUNK everytime. At least with the wiz, The items he gave out weren't being vended to 500-1000 people at the same time. I used to get a few decent items from the Wizard everyday...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Vanity
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Saggitarius asking for three or FOUR items in insane. I'm really disappointed with the change in his quests. I managed to do a measly 4 out of 20 quests, because of the items he was asking for. So many UB items.. I usually get at LEAST 10/20 of his quests done, so that's upsetting.

As for the wiz quests, the sp is nice, but I really miss getting the random UB's. It breaks up the monotony of just getting tokens every time. I can't imagine how bored I will be once the gold accounts get fixed and I can do 40 wiz quests. There's no fun value when you know exactly what your prize is going to be each and every time. No suspense! I personally would rather have the random UB's back versus the sp.

And finally, Maleria quests. I hate to be so negative about the changes, as I know staff worked hard. But they suck. FOUR items is ridiculous. Dark matter items are expensive, and she does not give a reward that equals what you have to buy. I spent 50,000 sp on three items, and she gives me 9k and an item worth 500sp? That's not right. She was fine before, when she only asked for one item.

All in all. Not impressed.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by HeIsRisen287
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Thank you Keith and Subeta Team for all the hard work and different things you are trying to help improve the economy and prices of items around the site. Wizard and Sagi totally rock for sure. It cant be easy trying to modify the worth of items in sp values for quests but you are definitely on to something!

It takes so many and so much work to get so much accomplished around the site so big thanks to those with the graphics (that toy collector and many new items are absolutely divine!) as well as the ones putting changes and fixes glitches, and also big thanks to the programmer who is working so very hard to get our ga's working again...you all rock!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by unamoosed
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So far ive done some saggi and wiz and they wre fine, good reward and only asked for 1 or 2 items

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Jenflower
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Well, Quentin has been nearly impossible for me. The rewards she gives is not worth my taking the time to search for 4 items. A lot of UBs. The graveyard dust must be getting to her...
The wizard is fine. I do miss the occasional rare item, though.
Pete seems the same - I got an 85 rarity and 7,600 sP for an 80 rarity item, for example. I love that he is still a 1 item for 1 item quest. I kind of wish another quest used this system. I don't think any others do.
Saggi...eh. He seems the same to me...as far as the sP given out. I automatically cancel the 4 item searches, though. His requests seem rather pricey though...maybe that was just my bad luck today.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by loopa
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i hope they haven't changed too much. the wizard didn't give out sp anymore, so my big money quests were maleria and saggi. i still want my large sp amounts, dag nabbit!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ciannwn
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Wizard quests are OK and I got more tokens than before. I really miss getting the occasional rare item from him, though and this was the main reason I did them. I rarely use vending machines and don't want an Aemis so I've now got plenty of tokens in store to keep me going through a lot of Token Shop stocks. The result is that I'll probably due few if any Wizard quests now until I'm running a bit low on tokens.

The new Maleria is dreadful. I did a couple of her quests using items I'd restocked myself and barely made back the cost of buying them from the main shops.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by ChaosRocket
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I'm disappointed that the wizard isn't giving out items anymore. I really liked having items mixed in with the tokens, I got unbuyables from there a lot. It also seems like the wiz is asking for more expensive items than before, but maybe I just had bad luck today.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

This was my first chance to try new quests because of the time change, tried Sag & don't like the changes. First, the extra step when you give up telling you that you quit is redundant & unnecessary. And four items per quest?! It takes too long & is too much trouble to price check & buy 4 items. Will try Wiz & Maleria tonight but if those changes are as bad guess I'll be giving up quests for a while.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Proclaimer_Rye
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I think I can sum up the changes in three words:
Quests got nerfed!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Marianne
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Sagittarius and the wizard were fair, although I did like getting items for variety, especially, since it's hard to spend tokens to begin with. However, Maleria has become awful: too many items asked for and basically no reward, in fact, mostly huge losses?!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by kendassa
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Pete seems to be one item and give +/- 5 rarity in addition to SP now.. the lower the rarity items seem to give less sp as well.. I got anywhere from 140sp to a 6k or so

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Nicki
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Wow, thank you so much

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by topizots
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I think we all have the right to enjoy playing each game a certain way, and it is clear that while some enjoy just getting tokens, many others enjoy getting prizes as well with the wizard.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by ghost_1960
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THE MACHINE IS BROKEN

oh great the wizard exchange is broken
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by kendassa
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Pete seems to only ask for one item still... One quest I can still do.. yay

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tjulan
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could anybody tell me- Does Quentin completly change? It was rare item for a rare item... common for common. Give him r90- you get r90.
But now he sometimes want THREE items...
So no longer rare for rare?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by ghost_1960
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well i miss the good stuff from the wizards quest other than the tokens i hardly have the time to do 30 let alone 40 quest

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by puissance0
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Using the Tokens on the Vending machines is not the same as getting rare items from the wizard. It's actually as if hte wizard gave out indecent prizes O_o

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by kendassa
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Its still depressing with Toy, Pete and Quentin. WHy did they have to be changed? Is it easier for the recode to have them all boring and the same? The main draw for subeta for me was the variety of questing choices I had, the fact that they weren't all the same requiring 3 or 4 items. Time allowed me to do the lesser item quests and then the multiple item quests later if I had time. I know alot of people did the Pete and Toy and Quentin quests the way they were.

Perhaps some different ones are in the works or something. Guess time will tell, I am not sure what I will do on here yet, without my quests.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Oh, please no. I hate to go and look up more than one item, Maleria was my 'weekend' from doing Saggi and Wizard before since she only asked for one item. I never even bothered to do cursed quest because it takes too long to look up three items. :/ I'm all for the 'stop eating my items!' change, but why this? Maleria drives me crazy now, no profit at all. And I loved it when I got an item from the Wizard in mix with the tokens, why did you go and change that? :/ It's cozy!

I'm sure there's good things with this update to, I mean it has to or you guys wouldn't have changed it but I hope I'll notice it soon. ^^;;

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