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Jan 21, 2023 3 years ago
bunny
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It currently does not.

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Jan 21, 2023 3 years ago
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MacLachlan

Agreed. It should.

And if I may add in two related cents: it also doesn't block you from seeing that they've made a post.

In example - if you're on the forum landing page, you can see that they either made or posted on a topic and because you've blocked them, that topic is off limits in perpetuity. If it's going to be that you can't post in a thread at all because you have a user blocked (or vice versa), why is this a thing where I can see that yeah, they posted?

Conclusion in the very hottest of takes - it could be tantamount to stalking a user if you got someone like one of my former friends who straight up stalked me on social media for nearly half a year and in the case of one, the stalking is ongoing outside Subeta. But. I can still see people who I've blocked posting, I can buy from their shops, I kind of know when they're online. It's creepy.

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Jan 21, 2023 3 years ago
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Vallenorix

I wish there were levels to blocking.

One where they no longer exist on the site for you and you no longer exist for them period. One where you don't communicate. Can't see forum posts and topics or comment, but they can still buy from your shop, offer on trades and be randomly chosen for holiday stuff like dancing. A third that lets you pick what communications you want a break from: forums, news posts, comments, shoutbox and you could decide which ones or all you wanted muted. Everything else onsite would function normally.This one would be temporary, set to mute for a week, month or whatever and then they reappear. Option to switch it on or off at any time.


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Jan 21, 2023 3 years ago
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Crappy

If they are buying items from shop search they may not even know it is your shop to begin with. I am all for blocking trades and communication, and CW shops. I am even up for if they click the shop name then they can't go into it to buy more.


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Jan 23, 2023 3 years ago
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Crotchety

Sorry, but I don't support this.

As things stand blocking is available at all times, for any reason. Many people get blocked because of bad behaviour, and that's good! However people can get blocked for petty, insignificant reasons too and those people shouldn't have their site experience negatively impacted when they didn't do anything wrong.

Jan 26, 2023 3 years ago
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I'm on the fence about this anymore. I guess it doesn't really matter if you're not actively looking at your shop sales page a lot.. But on the other hand, I get why it would bother some people. Idk.

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Jan 28, 2023 3 years ago
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people can get blocked for petty, insignificant reasons too and those people shouldn&;t have their site experience negatively impacted when they didn&;t do anything wrong.

😅 if someone doesn't want to (or isn't comfortable) interacting with you, their reasons are their reasons and they shouldn't have to, regardless of how you feel about your behaviour. their "site experience" has been negatively impacted and very often the person that did that will feel like they did nothing wrong.

a shop not appearing as a result in a search, or giving a purchase failed error is about .000009 seconds of someone's time on this site. HOWEVER not seeing someone's name on their shop history or not dealing with some sort of mass buying retaliation, or if you want to extend it to CW shops (although password protecting exists) and have people not have to see someone interact with them by buying their cws would be an extreme amount of relief, it's asking someone to alter their behaviour and their experience and take steps to handle someone else after they've already determined they don't want to interact with them.

i'm sorry for the length of this but i was thrown off by your take

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Jan 28, 2023 3 years ago
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do people actually spend so much time investigating every username that pops up in their shop history? I've been here 15 years and the last time I've checked the person who bought something instead of just glancing at what item sold is... actually no, I don't think I did it in even the early days either. if even seeing their name is an issue, I can see replacing them with "Blocked User" instead of the link to their profile, but echoing the above of why this isn't already a thing. "you had an annoying take in a news comment 4 years ago" should not bar someone from participating in a vital aspect of the site.

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Jan 28, 2023 3 years ago
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If something like this were implemented it would have to be on the new system as its own category, or have a system where we tick exactly what we want to block. Or maybe even make it an exceptional block that can only be done through ticket because no, I don't care how much you hate A or B, what's unfair is unfair and disproportionately affecting an user's experience for no plausible reason seems to fit the definition. Today we have users with valid reasons to block others out of their shops, tomorrow we have people abusing this function just to screw others over. Now, if someone is using the shops to harass you, you filed a ticket and nothing was done about it then yeah, they should be called out to get their shit together and stop being so conniving.

On another note, I find it hilarious that people nowadays make a fuss over everything because they are incapable of separating fiction from reality but when acting in ways completely innapropriate in real life is convenient for them, no one seems to care about this sort of mentality.

Jan 28, 2023 3 years ago
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i don't know if the merit of wanting to block someone or not interacting with them is at issue, you can just.. do that now. it's that it doesn't cover all areas of the site when people assume that it does.

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Jan 28, 2023 3 years ago
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Hyacinthe

Yeah no. I block people, but I still want their money from my shop.

Blocking is for interaction - I'm not interacting with people who buy from my shop. I do interact with people I TRADE with, but not shops

Trades are active, shops are passive.

So, if it's done, make it an option. I never look at my shop history.

Jan 28, 2023 3 years ago
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I don't really have an opinion here since I've never blocked anyone, but I'm puzzled by the argument about impacting someone's experience on the site? I don't see how not being able to see one shop, or maybe a few depending on how many people block you, would have that much of an impact. You'll still be able to see all other shops. Unless a large number of people block you I don't see this as an issue.

And I just said I don't really have an opinion but it does seem to me if you block someone, you shouldn't even see them on the site at all.

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Jan 28, 2023 3 years ago
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"I'm puzzled by the argument about impacting someone's experience on the site?"

Just my thoughts, but for certain items that are rare/in very limited quantity in the user shops (think highly sought after, $$$ items like certain stickers or plushies people need for collections or achievements), a small friend group of users blocking someone for potentially arbitrary reasons could prevent them from completing collections/achievements/goals.


That being said, I disagree that blocking someone should stop them from buying from the shop search user shops. A random player who blocked someone because they didn't like their avatar shouldn't have the power over that user to prevent them from buying items to complete their quests and goals.

Blocking, imo, should focus on preventing communication (comments, forum interactions, sending gifts, etc) and 'watching' other users (i.e looking at their profiles or comments).

Jan 29, 2023 3 years ago
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Nein

I kind of agree with ColdDragon with the idea of levels to blocking; a lot of the time when someone buys from a user shop they might not necessarily care who they're buying from since they may just be mass buying items for quests, fragging, recycle beast, ( cue anything else where you need a lot of items) on site.

That said, if someone wishes to block someone they blocked from completely showing up on site in any form, I could see a shop block making sense and in that case, I'd only see this working if a) limit the user blocked from entering a user shop at all to buy anything from that shop or b) not having a user that is blocked show up in a shop search at all.

Jan 29, 2023 3 years ago
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As long as blocking remains completely unregulated then I 100% agree that it should not impact the blocked player's experience.

If you are ever in the situation where someone is harassing you to the point of wanting more than the current system offers, or you feel they are trying to bypass the block (i.e. mass buying out your shop maliciously), then it sounds like it's time to get staff involved (just file a ticket, the UA's are super kind and helpful!).

That being said, I wonder if the better option is to completely do away with the usernames on the shop log entirely? I've never understood the purpose of it.

Jan 29, 2023 3 years ago
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That being said, I wonder if the better option is to completely do away with the usernames on the shop log entirely? I&;ve never understood the purpose of it.

this would make so much sense when it comes to shops, lots of people block for a multitude of reasons one of which could be the causes some 'trauma, for lack of a better term' to the user, whether it be from something they did, said or ell even the name itself

Jan 29, 2023 3 years ago
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That being said, I wonder if the better option is to completely do away with the usernames on the shop log entirely? I&;ve never understood the purpose of it.

i remember how people would thank people for buying from their shop in the old days, i like the feature in general and it's pretty much positive. but this whole conversation came from a couple people deliberately undercutting items to target people that use the autopricer and catching items underpriced for a profit. when people saw this person buying up all of the items they blocked them, and realized that it didn't stop them from doing it. their specific complaint was akin to fine, if you're going to do this and no one can stop them, what are people meant to do? but they were grossed out/weirded out by the behaviour and wanted to block them completely so this person couldn't take advantage of them. so that even if their autopricer trick worked and items were priced wrong, they specifically couldn't interact with them, someone else getting the item would make up for the fact they didn't want this one person buying from their shop.

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Jan 29, 2023 3 years ago
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What about having an option to turn off the name, especially of those who buy from your shop? That way if someone wants to thank someone they still can and for those who don't want to see if any blocked users buy from, their shops, they can go about their day?

Jan 29, 2023 3 years ago
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Vallenorix

We were told to report possible autopricer riggers to staff (not that it seems to matter since it's still happening all the time). You can't do that if you can't see names in sales history. Could make it a toggle feature to see or not see names of buyers.


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Jan 29, 2023 3 years ago
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Quote by ColdDragon
We were told to report possible autopricer riggers to staff (not that it seems to matter since it&;s still happening all the time). You can&;t do that if you can&;t see names in sales history. Could make it a toggle feature to see or not see names of buyers.

I actually assumed this was the main reason for this request. I just want to block people who do this lol


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