This is a suggestion that I know was considered into being a reality a few years ago but didn't get the best of feedback. However, it is now 2017 and I think perhaps more people would be for it than against it. The proposal is simple. To have a pay to change set up in which it is possible to change an existing pet's birthday to any date in the past. I just can't fathom personally for a date in the far future. As seen in the adoption board and recent suggestions, some people are looking for specific dates, some have OC characters they would love to bring onsite but age wise are older than subeta, some would like to do a tribute to either a loved one or historical figure.etc. Like me personally I would kill to change Permanent's birthday to my own, and I am older than subeta's creation date. Beneficial changes would be to change born to Discovery/Creation so that date remains with the creation then of another field called Birthday that would be editable.

One this change would not affect pet IDs and to my knowledge there is no way to mess with it anyway so sorry low ID people. Two it is completely optional so if you are not a fan you don't have to do it. For those concerned with Pet Legacy Status, I don't think it would affect it? Again not entirely sure and staff could clarify this but I thought legacy meant the pet was adopted prior to like NOV 2009. Also not sure if legacy would stay if you gave that pet away because it changes the adoption date. Pet birthdays don't really affect anything to my knowledge and most times is coded out of profiles, but I think it would be cool. I was lucky to find a pet born on my anniversary but not everyone is lucky finding specific dates. Also I know for sure when I have kids I am totally doing a pet for them but I will be upset if I missed out on the day because I was busy actually having said kid and then took time off to care for the kid only to come back and make a board looking for help via id ranges .etc. Plus hey another sink either sP or csc but I mean again this is a minimal change similar to gender which is sP based to changed anyways., so my vote is for sP.

I would love to pay for a date change - I do not even care for the year - but to give a ceratin pet a certain date would be heart eyes

I would also be willing to pay CSC for that XD hides

I think this would be an awesome sP sink--we don't really need more CSC sinks as far as I'm concerned. We have collections, those book things for battlers, and obviously all the CS wearables and Delish items.

You could stick it in the MC alongside the pet slot totems as a "Birth Date Totem" or something, and then select which pet you want to use it for in the item menu. However, I would expect the cost to be a static amount, rather than scaling up like the pet slots do, and they should be unlimited. I think like 50m-80m would be reasonable?

After seeing all the people on the AC board seeking specific dates for pets, and usually not getting anywhere, I believe many people would pay for this feature. Full support.

My concern would be if this would screw up the data on the back end.

eh i wouldn't use this but i can see why someone would like it

though i think it would be best if the birthday wouldn't actually replace the born date, but rather adds a new line between 'born' and 'adopted'? for instance, a pet without a bought birthday would have this on their profile:

Born: November 28th, 2016 Adopted: November 28th, 2016

whereas if you paid for a birthday it might look something like

Born: November 28th, 2016 Birthday: September 19th, 1973 Adopted: November 28th, 2016

sorry if it's a lame suggestion just... the first thing that came to mind lmao

Well when it was proposed originally it was birthday and then discovery date and adopted date. I can add that back into the first post. So born was discovery. They talked about this in 2015 and said it was possible so I am assuming it wasn't too much strain. Again though born date was suggested as discovery

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand I understand wanting a pet's birthday to be a certain date. Heck, I'd make Yoshi's and Pilot's birthdays my own as well. But I'm not sure, something just bothers me about this? It's as if people with legitimately older pets from 2006 and older are being ripped off somehow, even if the ID's don't change.

I'm not completely opposed to the idea, though. If such a thing were to be implemented, I'd definitely want it to be for sP.

Support, as long as it's limited to day and month. Nobody is hurt if we can change day and/or month, so I can support this.

Year, imo, should be offbounds.

If it were that born dates became discovery dates and then birthdays be a whole separate line would that be more agreeable? Because I feel the whole month date and year should be able to be modified.

eh i personally don't really like the idea of changing born into discovered these are pets not chemical elements, i mean if someone asked me when i discovered my dog i'd just look at them funny haha

again i'm not explicitly against it (since i'd hide it regardless on my profiles) but it just wouldn't flow too well imho

All I could think of when I saw this topic was yikes. That would be a mess and a half to execute, a nice change sure but Lord, the database mess...

I think it's an interesting idea, for sure. Not 100% decided either way really.

On a personal level though, the year is the thing I'd want to change the most....

I guess we wait and see if staff think it's a good sP/CSC sink!

I personally don't really like this idea... probably because I really wouldn't use it... but also like... okay I know you can't misrepresent info on your profile, but if you have like an INFO section about your pet/OC that's general information and include the birthday (MM-DD-YYYY) that actually pertains to your character, I don't see an issue with that (cuz you aren't saying the pet was born on that day, you are saying the character is???? so I would assume it would be fine) Or even just do the birthday (no year) and then age. And if you can get your pet to actually match the date (minus year obviously) then I feel like that is all good and not breaking any rules.

Like, I would rather do that.

And at the same time, idk it's weird to change the birthdate. I realize this is a pet-site and it's not real life, but you can't change your birthday. You can change your name, no big deal, but people don't just go and say "Hey I want a different birth day"... idk it's just weird to me.

Again not sure that it would but staff was looking into this so it seems possible. Like I said most people hide that part anyways but I thought it would be cool and I know it was discussed but got negative feedback but that was years ago. In terms of this being a pet site and all, yeah it is but for the majority of pet owners who actually has them on their born date. Like born adopted being the same date always bugged me.

I think it would be best to have distinct pet creation and born/birth dates (although I don't know if the glitched pets have correct creation dates saved with them somewhere else anymore)

Edit: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that there wasn't an adoption date before Nov 2009, so it's filled by default as legacy until someone adopts it out after then.

Depending on how this was done, I would be totally cool with this happening.

My only hiccup is if the "Born Date" was what changed, then it could cause a lot of confusion (and potential disappointment) when and if the pet was ever adopted out. There's a growing number of users who prefer older pets, and if a pet born today ended up being changed to like "February 5th, 2004" then there'd probably be a lot of people wanting it only to find out it's a newer pet. I mean it's not the end of the word (one could always check IDs, and even if this happens it's not the end of the world.. it's not like it's scamming or anything), but it would just be disappointing.

Anyways, I really like this idea:

I don't think I'd ever use this (I have a lot of fun basing my character's birthdays/zodiacs after their creation dates lol), but I know a bunch of people would so, yeah.

Correct but I wasn't sure if the legacy status applied if that pet got adopted out. So I figured as long as there was a new distinction aka Discovery versus using the word Born for that date, and then a separate birthday at least their was no way of misinterpretation/ id should be stuck to the discovery date instead of being stuck to the birthday.

I also personally just hate that it was called "Born Date" but like if that could be renamed to Creation or Discovery fine. I just want to be able to modify the birthday but everyone is equating that to the word born. Which again is totally weird regardless as Pizza pointed out about changing birthdays in the real world but hell the Hustler could sale us false identification. I am just trying to figure out a way to do it so that no one gets tricked into thinking a changed pet is older. This is not a way to change IDs cause that is just at this moment not going to happen.

I'm not sure how I feel about this idea. While I understand the growing demand for having pets with specific birth date but the idea of having pets with birthdays before the existence of the site doesn't make much sense to me. If we are allowed to change a pet's birth date to before Subeta existed then one can easily argue that pets's born dates should be allowed to be changed to some dates in the future because their characters are written to belong to a futuristic world. It wouldn't sound fair to only allow dates to be changed to the past because that equals to saying characters/ pets should only represent real life or imaginary people or animals in a parallel timeline to the real world we are in.

Personally I think a game needs to have a challenging aspect to it, or a certain identity. With literally almost every aspect of the pets now being allowed to changes (image, gender, stats etc) a pet's born date and id are probably the only things that cannot be altered and form that challenge to pet collectors or character developers, and in a certain way it contributes to the identity of Subeta too (as in: when looking at certain pets' birthdays people can guess when the site possibly dated back to).

As for memorial pets, I think adding a simple line to a pet's profile something along the line of 'This is a memorial pet created in memory of -Insert real pet's name- who was born on -insert date-' would kinda solve the problem? I don't currently have any idea for people who wants specific birth dates to coincide with their own birthdays though.

I adopted and received transferred pets created before Nov 2009, and the adoption dates are what they were, with no legacy status.

(The transfer feature came out at least a year after Nov 2009)

Thought so, but I wasn't sure hence why I wrote that little concerned part in my first post. I am still trying to articulate myself today on 2 hours of sleep in the last 48 hours. So apologies if I am scatterbrained.