As it currently stands you cannot adopt a potioned / otherwise special Pet from AdoptRUs until your account is two (?) weeks old and you cannot abandon one before a whole month is over if I remember it correctly. HOWEVER transfering Pets is open for everyone right from the start and that's what doesn't make much sense to me because, in my opinion, we should either have boundaries that cannot be sailed around or none at all.

With that being said I suggest that we either get a newbie limit for pet transfers, too or that the ancient adoption/abandon rules concerning account age get erased entirely.

Don't see why not. Support.

Can you use the word painted instead of colored though?

@ kbbob

Changed it to "potioned / otherwise special" because painting rather reminds me of Neopets and their paint brushes.

Alright thanks :P colored just has a bad connotation to it, but I couldn't think of another word other than painted.

But I do wish the rules were consistent, and this is just an example of a slight inconsistency. So I think this is a good idea.

STAFF : SUP LET'S MAKE THE SITE MORE USER-FRIENDLY

STAFF: YES, RESTRICTIONS ON PET ADOPTING AND ABANDONING, BEST IDEA

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I'm supporting this as well. There is actually no sense in these restrictions with people being able to send the Pets over.

I would like to see this done away with rather than made more difficult, I feel bad for newer users when they get confused about why they can't adopt pets. We should be encouraging people to help clear out the pound, not making it harder.

I would also like to see the 30 day wait between transfers go away. I think it was put into place to prevent undeserving users from profiting during events that require battling (funny how these sorts of walls exist for literally nothing else on the site) but since stats get reduced from transfers after a certain point, it really doesn't seem all that important. It's not like most loot from easy opponents remains valuable anyway.

I don't support this. I think the newbie and transfer delays serve a useful purpose in that they deter scammers and folks who pop in casually grab a pet with a great name and/or color and then leave Subeta forever. The thirty day delay was brought about by adoptrus patrons and not battlers. Nobody was listening to us.

In order to get a pet transferred to you you need to be Friends with someone, so I don't see these as comparable situations.

I'm not entirely sure how the restrictions benefit a "scammer" in the first place either, but like I think it's doing more harm than good considering I've seen I think 3-4 threads in the past few days from newbies asking for someone to adopt a pet and transfer it to them because they can't just adopt it themselves.

When I first started here I thought this rule was the dumbest thing. Two days after I started a nice person friended me and know what they did? Sent me two terrible pets with awful names and I was stuck with them! I never heard from the person again and I had to have those awful pets on my account for a month. (or however long it was.) That sucked. I say get rid of the rule for abandoning at least.

As someone who is really into pet names I can get it that you don't want some person taking a name and leaving but this still happens with users that have been here for more than a month. Plus, accounts are cleared. I know users with great names that only come on so their accounts aren't cleared even though they don't play. To me that's worse than logging in, taking a name and not coming back. At least you get the name in a year if you want. I dunno, just my two cents.

This. I hate seeing the pound get fuller and fuller. There are some great pets in there that have been there for days, so I'm not too worried about newbies "grabbing" good pets then leaving. And like other people have pointed out, if newbies don't come back, the pet names will be available again in a year.

And hey, not all newbies quit! I was one a year ago ;)

Why is there a month ban on this, anyways? I know there was a reason, but it's been so long I don't remember it anymore x:

Honestly, if someone plans to spam the site with weird pet names/hoard names on a "totally not multi account gais this is my grandmothers accounts" they'll probably just make a bunch of accounts and make a note about their creation so they can come back in a month and do whatever they wanted to do then. Maybe the creation/adoption/abandonment time should just be 24-48 hours and new accounts could instead be monitored for a few weeks for any excessive activity (not by hand, obviously, there should be scripts that could be run once or twice a day or something) and if someone's mass creating/abandoning/buying 20 pet slots and getting sent tons of pet's from another user... then it can be flagged and staff can look into it.

I know a bad apple ruins the bunch and all, but logically there's gotta be a better way to weed out weeds than by taking a torch to the entire yard.

Yeah I never understood this rule. I can't for the life of me imagine this would really thwart anyone who just signs up to troll the site.

"Ohh I'm gonna make an army of the pet PoopyLord1234 and abandon them in the Pound. The people will fear me!" does not seem like a thing that happens often or would particularly happen. If trolls really want to mess with the site they will do so via the forums or the shoutbox in most cases I would assume.

If this was to stop people from making good names (what even ?) then so what? The name was obviously free before hand so everyone had the opportunity to grab it. If they are scooping up pets from the pound that has good names, again, so what. The pet was in the pound for everyone to get.

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And that right there is why this rule should be changed to be much shorter (24hrs maybe) or just gotten rid of entirely.

Ugh seriously this annoyed me so much when I started, so I definitely support getting rid of the limit/shortening it. All it did was encourage me to create a bunch of pets rather than adopting them which I would rather have done, and then immediately regret creating them when I realised I couldn't abandon them. Also, I didn't even know the adoption center existed for awhile. I think that the newbie tutorial thing should mention it.

Exactly my thought. I find it ridiculous to create and create and create new pets all the time when you just can adopt some lovely pixels in the pound. Too many people abandon and it just makes the number of pets increase for no reason and there are so many nice pets in the pound, nice colours, species, names! When I started with this account, I had to wait for 2 weeks for adopting from the pound. I wanted more pets but didn't want to create new pets either. Results : I found Richy, Ultimatum, Ayris, Maracas and Vexy in there. I managed to make their pages 'personal' to me. I didn't create them and so what ?

Considering the page when you buy a new pet slot suggests adopting instead of creating a pet, the adoption center should be far more accessible. I know most newbies probably aren't going to start buying pet slots immediately or anything, and thus won't see that note, but if the site wants to encourage adopting pets in general, they should do it across the board and not make new users wait.

I feel like when these rules were first made, the explanations made sense... but now, I can't even think of those explanations at all. Multi-account prevention? Prevention of spamming the pound? That's all I can think of, and really, if either of these are huge issues, Raising the Base Number of Pet Slots would probably help in deterring them. More room for pets would help both of these issues (from a pet perspective, it would not prevent multi-account creation for other reasons).

I support removing these altogether, shortening to 24-48, or making it so once you complete enough 'newbie' tasks, these options open up. Kind of like how referrals don't go through unless enough tasks are completed. Though, as I do not remember those tasks, that may be unreasonable. I think the best option is probably 48 hour wait for pound access. No more than a week for abandoning access.

I didn't even know this was a thing, so I support abolishing the limit. It really makes no sense to have it.

This. I hate seeing the pound get fuller and fuller. There are some great pets in there that have been there for days, so I'm not too worried about newbies "grabbing" good pets then leaving. And like other people have pointed out, if newbies don't come back, the pet names will be available again in a year.

And hey, not all newbies quit! I was one a year ago ;)

I really don't understand why new players are restricted from adopting pound pets when they first started. My pet, Leohna was a pet name I fell in love with when I first started playing on this site. I found the pet in the pound but was very disappointed that I couldn't adopt her. I kept checking on a continuous basis making sure that she was still there until that magical time where I was able to adopt her. I was lucky she was still around. Usually the pound is the first place that people check to find new pets for their accounts over creating them. It's always so encouraged to check the pound out for a new pet over creating one, why have a restriction? If people are able to adopt for someone else and then just transfer the pet over, what's the difference between that and direct adoption from the pound? I honestly think that the restriction should be on creating pets over adoption if there's to be a restriction at all. In all reality, though, I don't understand the restrictions in the first place. A newbie wants to adopt, let them adopt. If a newbie wants to create, let them do so. However, I don't think it's fair for a newbie to be made to wait on adopting a pet with a name they want, especially if they have to worry about not being able to get them before their restriction was lifted (like I was).

In regards to what happened to , there maybe should be a confirmation that needs to be put in place:

User ____ has sent you the pet ____! Click here to accept or deny!

Until that acceptance or denial has happened, those pet slots from the user that's sending them are still filled. If the player accepts the pet transfers, then the sender has those slots free, if not, the pets stay on the sender's account.

I, too, was once sent a pet (chibi Kumos) by someone. I was also sent my beautiful Adhara by someone else who no longer plays as a surprise. These two pets were sent to me at two completely different times. I was not ready for a chibi Kumos, didn't like the name and was forced to pound it (first changing its specie just so that I didn't feel badly pounding a Kumos). I also wasn't ready for the angelic Kanis (which is my Adhara), but I fell in love with the entire pet and kept her.

All that being said - I think that the ancient rule keeping newbies from adopting should be done away with completely as it just doesn't feel right.

I can't view the thread that posted, but I like the idea of raising the base number of pet slots that you start out with. 5 is nice, but it does leave you longing for more, especially when there are a bajillion of fabulous pets and colours on site. I know you can get another 5 slots with a GA, but it'd be nice if you could get more to start with instead of just the 5. That way, with a GA, you can still get bonus pet slots, but gives a bit more of variety for newbies to allow them more pet options than just the 5 that you're initially given.

(in all honesty, I'd love more pet slots period XD I'm a pet lover lol)

I think the main problem is the contradiction between adopting and transferring. While I support the idea to allow newbies to adopt whatever they like, I think the system should be consistent. If the site doesn't want them to adopt nice pets for whatever reasons, just implement the 2 week restriction on transferring as well, and vice versa.

Right now, the whole thing doesn't make subeta look too good, and the 2-week rule is more like an afterthought.