posted it in the wrong section by accident

It doesn't make any sense that after 9 years since the release it's still pretty much impossible to finish (Level 9) Leviathan Harpooning for example, games should be fun and not frustrating or punishing, Subeta is not Dark Souls yet, especially games that the prizes are mostly less than 10k sp or items with a low value.

At some point I just stopped playing chance games because I felt like I'm wasting my time and I felt very frustrated, like when you reach 5 good guesses in Mind Reader and then you lose and it can takes a few months to reach this number once again.

I understand that it's luck games, but luck games shouldn't be impossible, it's more easy to win a doll in a vending machine in real life than to win in many of Subeta's chance games.

Rant is over 😂

I, personally, love the line of the OP of "Subeta isn't Dark Souls."

Mood, that's why I quit doing the site-wide battle events. If I wanted Dark Souls, I'd play it. I don't want to waste my time and effort on things that are impossible to win or you have to grind out hours upon hours to get a single win. Chance games or no.

The chance games were honestly never good in the first place. The only one that does at least have some worthy replay value is Crypts.

Train your pet. It's not impossible.

Yes I really hate when its tied to achievements too like Fishing for the treasure or a perfect game of Reflection. So freaking frustrating!

I don't mind a thing being super rare or having low odds, but I do agree Leviathans are impossible, I really don't see why there are leviathans loose by themselves without a chain, the odds are pretty bad for the last level as it is.

I also feel like a 'hit' shouldn't be taking one of your moves, so that someone who has hit a chain might still have a chance to hit the rest in that chain with 1 or 2 moves remaining :x

I agree that some of the games are super outdated and borderline boring, random chance games included. I wish there was an update to the older games or just replace them with new games that are more fun.

I am pretty sure what meant was the reason they don't participate in site battle events is because they are meant to be a grind fest. It is also impossible to beat the bosses like hydragellos (literally health is infinite). Sure if you have a capped pet you don't have to put in as many hours, but you still have to know what you're doing and put in some amount of effort.

If we're on the topic of luck based things, I FINALLY managed to pull one of the rare items out of the Hustler's boxes... last year? (I think) The dark bone staff item. I only ever use the 10k box & know I've spent years buying those things. ha. Though, I did get the light sword item years and years ago, only to have the site have to be rolled back & I had no proof of it. (if that gives any indication of how long ago this was. haha.)

It also took me 13k vends to get a Riptide; in some thread about them, it took others much, much longer to get one.

Game-wise? I stopped trying to do the achievement based ones mentioned already because I know I'm not going to have luck work out, so why spend my time doing them? There's no skill, it's just rng.

&, to be clear, I'm fine with things being rare and harder to get, but some things seem like they could be balanced a bit.

Reflection is actually pretty doable with practice. With zero mistakes there's between 5% and 10% chance of winning the 4x4 version, but if you spam it every opportunity you'll get it eventually, and then you can abandon it forever XD

Leviathan and Mind Reader are pure cancer though. I refuse to harpoon for Major Drills any more. So is the carnival Bluff game.

I win Bluff a LOT. Is there a reason you hate it? I feel like a lot of the times no one likes that one is because they think that the game cheats and then they find out that the number of dice you are guessing includes his dice and your dice.

Bluff is insanely easy compared to other examples. Fuck Leviathan Harpooning.

Luck games are quite annoying, I'll admit, especially if there appears to be a strategy but there really isn't. I spent as much time as I could constantly going through the Ice Fields until I got the bucket. Maybe there could be items that affect our chances, like the Morostide items that affect the chances of getting hexed or finding minions. I don't know how that would work, though, and some people might complain if the item was hard to get, but at the same time it shouldn't be too easy. It would just be nice if the option was there.

Chance and grinding games is why I don't bother with chance or battling. I'm way better at arcade anyway. Matlal's Jewels is my favorite game here ngl

1/20,922,789,888,000 (1 in ~21 trillion) chance? Seriously I wonder how many people actually have this chieve

(Earlier I was talking about just a regular win. That one's very doable with the right play.)

Also, I adjusted my Bluff strategy based on your info and I actually won for once! I think I'm still bad at it though.

I am wondering if at some point reflections answers are all in order like left to right. That has been my strategy so far. Have not gotten anywhere with it but maybe one day. That is the only way I can think that it would even be doable at all.

Level 9 of Leviathan Harpooning has been beaten.

Also would it even be interesting if they made it easier?

Right now, it's not interesting, so at least making it esier would make it more interesting, yes.

My strategy for Reflection has been to just go with the same pattern every time too lol, because yeah my reasoning is that if I always do the same thing then maybe eventually I'll be lucky and have it line up in that combination.

But so far I think the most I've gotten correct in a row was like 4 or 5, so still not that great...

Congrats on winning! It just take a bit of practice. That is the game I play if I need carnival tickets :D

yeah honestly level 9 of leviathan harpooning sucks and i've been stuck on it for years. you don't have nearly enough guesses for this to be a reasonable board to beat, and there's no sense of how many leviathans are left at any given time. i mean, how many should i be hoping to find? i've gotten upwards of 60 and still no win. i can't think of a more efficient strategy than the way i play, but the absurdly low number of moves coupled with the fact that there can be leviathans just hanging out on their own means it's pointless. (it's also implied they can rarely be found in vertical groups instead of horizontal but i've never seen that.) i like the idea of making "hits" not use up a move, i think that would make things much more doable.

fishing also sucks. first of all it's not even clear how the game works; the grid implies that each square is a different space. this is not so! it takes looking at the URL after each guess to realize EVERY PIXEL is a different space! and because of that, there's virtually no sense of what "closer" or "farther" mean in this game. there's no fun to be had with it, so there's no point in doing it.

yes, random chance is random chance, but it shouldn't be "just try the same exact thing every day for 6 years and statistically it has to work out at some point!" i have no problem with the carnival games, or scratchcards, or stealth bomber... even the crypts feel decently doable if you keep at it frequently enough. but some of the others are just :/