yall, ive been feeling sick for the past two days bc of seeing the one zombie skin around with the corkscrew (p sure it's the "red" strain)... that's fine for people who are into that but i really would have appreciated a note in the survival announcement or somewhere that the new strain stages contained graphic violence (and like, that one's violence my guys, not just typical rot/disease zombie body horror) so i could have turned off avatars ahead of time and like. not had something to spend several days having mental breakdowns about.

so like, nothing doing now, and i do appreciate that avatars are turn-offable at all, but i guess for the future, this would be a good idea?

I think this is pretty reasonable, tbh. It's really a lot more graphic than most of the other strains,

Oof, that sucks, I'm sorry to hear that. : I don't think it's unreasonable to put up a warning. Like mentioned, it's a lot gorier than previous strains we've had. While I personally like it, it's not hard to see why it would be extremely off-putting for those who can't or don't want to stomach gore.

Its not more violent, just more shocking. I feel like the Deathworm process is much more violent and I don't think I need to talk about Heart Burn.

If possible I think this could help people, but I hope it doesn't create limitations for the regular user.

Oh Yikes! I actually hadn't seen that strain before until just now, when I went to look it up. I agree that it is gorier than previous viruses; while it doesn't bother me personally, I think that there should be some protection in place for those who are more sensitive to these things. Is there a way to, idk, put infected avatars in something like a spoiler drop-down box? So that avatars are hidden until clicked on? Or a way to opt out of seeing certain virus strains?

p.s. I hope you feel better soon, OP!! <3

other strains also being graphic isn't a reason not to put a warning on this one too, just put warnings on all of them which are graphic. (i havent seen those ones and i don't care to, but for me personally something that appears to be being done to a body by a person is much more traumatising than something that appears to be being done by a virus/disease/whatever)

also i don't think it would interfere with regular gameplay, it wouldn't even be a game mechanic it would just be the words "some people might find this gross here is your warning to not interact with the gross thing." bc its perfectly easy to avoid all the zombie stuff if you just turn off avatars and don't go on certain threads, i just didn't know that i needed to.

Given there's one that's based on a real life affliction, I'd have to agree that some kind of warning for the zombie stuff would be welcome. It's not my entire cup of tea and I don't like the... sometimes unnecessarily gorey stuff that comes with it.

I really don't think it's any more graphic than some other strains, but different people are obviously going to be able to handle things differently, whether one is objectively "worse" than the next or not.

But I wouldn't mind a general notice in the Survival announcement post or something with a link to wherever you can turn off viewing HAs, with just a general reminder that some strains can be graphic/gross/what have you for the newbies and those who may have forgotten but not want to see that

Graphic violence seems like an extreme classification for mildly disturbing fantasy images. I’ve always felt uncomfortable by many strains over the years, but I just avoid them. It’s not that difficult to click away from items that unsettle me. Zombie-related things are inherently gross in nature and it’s my job as a viewer to avoid them when they make me uncomfortable. I can’t expect staff to warn me about every image on site that may or may not disturb me. They may as well censor all of Morostide while they’re at it?

a) that's a slippery slope fallacy, there's nothing in morostide that contains gore or really anything worse than one might see in public on halloween, all of it is PG13 which a lot of these zombie skins are not

b) literally you're trying to argue against warnings with the function of warnings. warnings are not the same as censorship, warnings are giving the viewer the chance to make the ability to self-censure, which is the exact thing you are talking about. warnings are a friendly heads up to filter one's own content, because you can't unsee things even if you decide to filter retroactively. they are there to allow you to make your own decisions about the content you want to see, same as movie maturity level ratings. and frankly a site that claims to be PG13 should note when they're becoming otherwise.

I think this is a great idea! It reminds people who might be sensitive that there's a way to avoid the images, while leaving things the same for those who aren't bothered.

I feel like Survival starting should probably be enough of a warning that gross/violent things may occur. We're talking about zombies here with literally torn flesh?

However, newbies may not know what Survival is all about, and older players may still forget that they can turn off HAs. I like Squidward's suggestion of a reminder and link in the Survival announcement post.

That being said, I'm sorry to hear that the skin has put you off, and I'm hoping you feel better quickly. :3

i'm sorry to hear you've gone through this op, i agree that the red virus has been way more graphic. i'm not the biggest fan of gore like that lol rip. some sort of trigger warning works 100%. support!

You’re assuming that there are things I don’t personally don’t see as graphic images during Morostide. Which is exactly my point - how are staff expected to know and warn each of us whenever there is something that we may find offensive? You’re putting the job on them when it is our job to determine whether or not we find something offensive and to avoid it. They can’t shield me from every HA and item that makes me uncomfortable around the site because each person views these things subjectively.

This kind of debate happens every time more controversial content is added to Subeta (remember the gy terracoon?) and I think Squidward has the right idea - mention that there is potentially triggering content during this event.

Decapitated and vivisected animals are triggering for some people.

The option to have such warnings can be in the user options area like we did with the bad-word filter. Everyone gets happy.

I have a very strong and irrational fear of spiders, I'd love if they could get hidden from me around the site but thats not possible, but a violence warning like suggested in here is very reasonable imo and can spare people from some uncomfortable moments.

Maybe all of Morostide and all of Survival should have on their first line a "you can suppress HA images here, 'cause this site can get truly horrifying" as part of their FAQ? Me, I don't think RED is as awful as many other zombie strains. To me it's sterile which is much better than rotting from within or being eaten alive by botflies.

I don't have any zombie skins, because I've never been voluntarily infected. I would just as soon that Survival went back to Valentine's. It was originally planned as a one-off dealie by and he brought it back only through two years of sustained Teletubby-like "again again" by users. I am able to distance myself from what is happening to other HAs and enjoy it for what it is, but still most years I'm buying Candy Hearts with sP instead of smooching rotting piles of flesh which is seriously gross. And it used to be to get Candy Hearts you would do a friendly visit the user's profile and click a button. After you got your Achievement for the smooches, you didn't used to have to even see or kiss anyone living or unliving for this particular site-currency.

Now me, I objected strongly to the grossness of having to kiss in order to get currency. I got absolutely nowhere with other users and staff. It's kind of a pisser to me that now that NPC Quentin takes CH purchaseable items for their quests and the price is not dropping.

It's not staff's responsibility to ensure that nothing they ever create will upset anyone, but given the nature of the event itself, I think it'd be nice to have a warning/reminder. The zombie skins are a major part of the event and many users will be wearing them (as opposed to the handful who will use them on and off throughout the rest of the year), and once the event is over, you don't have to see the in-progress stages either, which are sometimes squickier than the final effect, imo. I can't handle the turnip-inside-the-foot of the green stage this year, but that doesn't mean I'll have to adblock the final version in the wardrobe to avoid it.

There are ways for users to manage the disturbing content itself, but I don't think a reminder is unwarranted or too obnoxious to include for Survival. As far as the managing of content, the majority of my Adblock filters are Subeta items I don't want to see. I'm not honestly sure if that's an option if it's the in-progress stages of a zombie strain bothering someone though, short of just blocking those users' HAs as you come across them, which is unfortunately an ongoing process, unlike with item images

A warning won't hurt anybody, people come here to enjoy at the end :)

I was pretty shocked about it for the first minutes but then got used to it, it was just a bit too much for a second..

I've been a long time member, but haven't been active with the site until recently and I had NO clue what Survival was. And it was uh, rather shocking at first LOL :'D

I had no idea there was an option to disable viewing HAs, so I think when site events that involve this kind of graphical horror stuff I feel including a non-spoilery warning about what the event could possibly entail in terms of content, along with linking folks to the HA toggle on/off (esp for Survival) would be a great idea to add in the news post announcing the start of the event! :)