I love seeing people make up strawman arguments and reference things that didn't happen.

Oh wait no I don't.

I completely support the suggestion for a warning to be put in the news post, and for there to be a reminder about turning HAs off. I'm not likely to use this feature myself, but I can see why this would be welcomed for the people that need it. Ultimately it does nothing to detract from the event.

Also can we use some common sense here and agree that violence and gore are more likely to make the average person uncomfortable than say, a fear of pink bunnies? lmao at all this talk about subjectivity.

Happened on the first page

Bolded it so you can see. :)

No, we should totally start censoring all content that may make someone uncomfortable. Maybe a click-to-view-graphic-content spoiler over images. Since there are so many, maybe staff can have us submit them in so they don’t miss anything. We wouldn’t want other users to suffer days of mental breakdowns like the OP.

If you couldn’t tell, this post, like that sentence, was sarcasm.

Was that really necessary...?

Honestly this suggestion is getting a weird backlash given what it is for: it basically amounts to one line in a news post, not a warning splashed across every Survival-related image. Again, this suggestion takes nothing away from those who don't care for it, and benefits those who do. I really can't understand why some people are against this suggestion when it's pretty reasonable, and doesn't in any way suggest changing what kind of content Subeta produces for Survival - just a quick warning that yeah, Survival is all about gore and body horror, here's a link to turn off HAs if it bothers you.

I think you are misunderstanding me. I don’t mind a reminder about turning off HAs when Survival starts, but it will just get buried after a day and not everyone will be able to see it. I feel that OP is requesting that staff be the one to protect us from the content we’re viewing when the responsibility should be on us as a viewer. They didn’t ask about how to hide HAs in the Help forum, they went straight here to the Feedback forum to plea to staff to protect them. And if staff is going to have that responsibility now, they need to protect everyone from what they could perceive as graphic content. Why should it only be limited to Survival? I personally get disturbed by a lot of the strains that I see, but asking staff to protect me from them is an over-the-top request, in my opinion. Which is why I was being sarcastic, I think this request is unsubstantiated. Graphic violence is not something I think most would use to describe mild cartoon horror and the site is covered in similar things.

And I feel that you're extrapolating far too much from a single paragraph. Lashing out based on a 'feeling' that you have is uncalled for.

To be fair, I wouldn't have asked about how to hide an HA either because I didn't even know that was an option before this thread. And just because someone didn't make a post in the Help forum doesn't mean they didn't seek assistance with this - that's rather presumptuous, and doesn't strike me as a fair argument against the suggestion.

I think it would be fair to say that users are requesting protection from staff, as you put it, if they were asking staff to censor the images. A warning for literal gore and body horror isn't uncalled for, along with a link so that users can protect themselves from content they don't want to see by disabling HAs. Others in this thread have already mentioned how difficult it is to block strains on your own with AdBlocker, so it seems reasonable to direct users to a feature that exists on site that will work better.

I don't think noting that the news would get buried is a reasonable counter, given that there are already tons of new items that get buried. Perhaps it could be added as a link in the sidebar on the news page with other Survival-related links.

I think the main difference here is that as others have said, strains are hard to effectively block from HAs. If there's specific content that people dislike that interrupts their ability to enjoy the site, they can use AdBlock to block the items or pets. It's really not that simple for the zombie strains though, which is why there's value in referring users to the HAs on/off option at the start of Survival.

The issue of the warning getting buried is simply solved by a news banner (like when the site was lagging or when there's a new pet spotlight/news post). Those don't disappear until a user dismisses them. So if a user logs in when survival has already started and the initial warning is buried under news posts, the banner will be right at the top warning them.

Yeah, I can see what you are saying and think you’ve made a number of valid points. You’re right that HAs are trickier to hide so there is nothing wrong with pointing out an existing feature. However, I don’t think staff should be required to do anything more.

My only issue with that is that I’m pretty sure those announcement banners only take you to the news page and not the specific piece of news they are referring to. So if someone came in the middle of Survival, the announcement would be well-buried unless they read every piece of news they’ve missed, which I don’t think most people do. That would kind of render it useless.

"Can we let people know when there's going to be peanuts in the food so those with allergies can avoid it?"

"Oh so you just want everyone to not eat? You want to throw all food in the garbage? You want to ban food? You want everyone to starve to death? You should carry around a peanut residue testing kit, the chefs can't be responsible for your allergies,."

This is basically what you are doing.

Maybe OP did exaggerate how badly the Lobotomeat skin was affecting them but OP isn't the only person who could have been affected. New users who have little or no idea how diseases progress during the survival event may have been distressed and not even known they could ask about a feature to turn off HAs. Not everybody is familiar with the close attention staff pays to the userbase here. Most people I would say are used to sites where you barely even know who the staff are and they certainly don't listen if somebody posts on the forum. I think asking for a two sentence warning and reminder HAs can be hidden in a news post or the FAQ is such an incredibly small thing and it gives users the tools to be responsible for themselves.

Valentine's Day isn't even a holiday where one should naturally expect gore like Halloween is. It's not naturally implied there's going to be things like harlequin ichthyosis or maggots in flesh or meat drilling prominently featured during a Valentine's Day related event. How is somebody supposed to know what they're in for and get themselves prepared for it unless they get told?

Look I LOVE horror movies, can handle blood, gore etc.... But even I wasn't ready for the literal pile of human spaghetti that happened these few days. Like... Wow that was a pretty unnerving zombie transformation lol. It was like watching a horror movie itself.

I think adding a line to the Survival announcement (or as others have noted as a floating blue announcement) that reminds users that there's an HA toggle on/off function is an eminently reasonable suggestion. Nobody's obligated to use it, but if folks want to, then they'll know what tools are available.

This FYI could even be an easily made-addition to the Survival FAQ as well. That's a change that could likely be made right now, actually.

Oh yes, a content warning on a petsite is totally equivalent to a deadly peanut allergy good point.

They can actually link to anything, even off site links (like the temporary subeta discord that staff made for the survival bugs)

So as a newbie who isn't overly bothered by gore I will say that the zombie skins threw me off for a moment given the site's PG-13 rating, since guts and dismemberment are usually the cutoff for a PG-13 rating. I think they're super cool and it's a fun event but I also think a 'heads up, things are about to get significantly gorier than usual, here's a way to turn HAs off so you don't have to see it' is pretty reasonable since new users especially are likely to not know turning off HAs is an option/what Survival is like and even old users forget the first.

I agree, I don't think staff should have to do more than the initial announcement and link, and I would disagree with suggestions that the art for Survival should change in tone or type.

I agree that I don't know why some people are getting so riled up at the mere suggestion of a simple warning. No plea to stop the gory skins or anything -- just a sort of "viewer's discretion is advised" kind of thing. Yes, the site might be PG-13, but PG-13 encompasses a lot of different things. And honestly, while the skin in question doesn't personally bother me, it is rather graphic. Nobody is saying that it shouldn't exist, just that it would be helpful to some people to know that it does exist, before they interact with it.

So yes, I do support a little warning/reminder that HAs can be disabled.

Oh no, I’m not saying that they can’t. Just that, as they function right now, the news banners won’t link the person to the warning directly, which would kind of defeat the purpose of having one.

I guess adding the forum HA toggle reminder to the Survival FAQ would be the best idea? That way people know they can hide HAs if they choose and it would be somewhere that won’t be missed for those unfamiliar with Survival.

I think means the blue banners for important updates, not the "There's new news!" banner. So then they could just put the warning inside the banner itself and then, link it to the specific news post or even the preferences page or something, depending on how they worded it (or both)