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Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
Caledonia
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  1. Why do people get a notification when someone blocks them? Is there any real need? REALLY?

  2. Why, when someone blocks someone, can the blocked party still see their Shoutbox/Forum posts? It's all fine and dandy for the Blocker to be blind to anything the Blockee is posting, but I really can't be arsed seeing the Blockers posts. Why should I need to block them in return?

  3. If X blocks Y, X&Y should then be invisible to each other, like every other website.

Not implementing this, and both parties being able to see one or the others posts, and giving them a notification when they are blocked, is causing an absolute shit storm.

And since the Blocking topic "has been up for debate over the years", why not do something about it instead of ignoring it?

Edit: To clarify point 2, if X blocks Y, why should Y still see X's posts? There's really no need, other than to cause trouble.

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Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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Fartsie

I did not get one when I got blocked (recently)? I'm always vouching for a more severe blocking policy.

But I remember voicing a concern about: "I don't want someone to control what I see" or to pick what I'm looking at. (similar to this).

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Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago Official
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Eradication

We had this discussion a long time ago, and the reason that we moved back is because user X shouldn't be prevented from enjoying the full content of the site because user Y has decided to block them.

What if user Y makes an important plot board, with steps to solve it, and because user Y has decided to block a bunch of users for whatever reason, user X has no access to that board.

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Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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1. Why do people get a notification when someone blocks them? Is there any real need? REALLY?
I didn't think this happened anymore? Someone fill me in? I don't want to block someone and wait 24 hours to fix it just to test this out

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3. If X blocks Y, X&Y should then be invisible to each other, like every other website.
Nooooo no no no see sometimes people make guides for current events and plots and things, or useful suggestions/question threads/etc. and there's no reason that someone should suddenly be unable to see those things because the creator of the topic has a trigger-happy blocking finger. {Edit: Ninja'd by }

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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2. Why, when someone blocks someone, can the blocked party still see their Shoutbox/Forum posts? It&;s all fine and dandy for the Blocker to be blind to anything the Blockee is posting, but I really can&;t be arsed seeing the Blockers posts. Why should I need to block them in return?
Someone else blocking me should not determine what I can see on the site.

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Edit: To clarify point 2, if X blocks Y, why should Y still see X&;s posts? There&;s really no need, other than to cause trouble.
What if there is an event going on and X makes a thread discussing a plot? What if there is a bug, and X makes a post explaining how to fix it with Custom CSS? What if X owns a large and popular Forum Group, like the one for the Token Shop?

There are numerous reasons why players should be permitted to see posts from people that may have blocked them but that they have not blocked back.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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No one should decide for someone else what they can and can't see. That's a decision you make for yourself but not for someone else. (Unless there is a case of serious harassment.) This is the reason that is repeated by several people every single time the topic pops up, for years already. It's a big counter argument.

How would you feel if the usual helpful people (those with all the help topics, suggestion topics, discussion topics etc etc) go on a blocking spree and you'll miss out on all the boards that you basically need in your subeta life?

Considering the importance of the counter argument it's not something that can be fixed by a simple wave of the hand. It's not a "Hey keith this button is broke, please fix it." But an actual moral dilemma on how much power you give users over each other.

[edit] Seriously outninja'd on this one.

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Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
Caledonia
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Fair enough, all good points.

I'm still pissed off that User X can post in the SB and I can see it (or can they/I, since they've been frozen/self-froze, I don't know).

Also, I'm pretty sure if you log out, you can view forums, blocked users profiles etc, so if they REALLY wanted to view those boards, they could log out, however, that's obviously not ideal.

There's also the "Users Who Have Blocked You" list..is that really necessary?

At the temple, there is a poem called "Loss" carved into the stone. It has three words, but the poet has scratched them out. You cannot read Loss, only feel it.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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Quote by Caledonia
There&;s also the "Users Who Have Blocked You" list..is that really necessary?
Since people can be warned for trying to get around a block, it's only fair for people to have some way of knowing who has blocked them.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
Caledonia
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-slow clap-

You ban ME for asking a question, then reacting when you target me in the SB, but that's ok.

The others who regularly cause shit in the SB and your bessie mates don't get punished.

At the temple, there is a poem called "Loss" carved into the stone. It has three words, but the poet has scratched them out. You cannot read Loss, only feel it.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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Piety

Why does anyone block anyone? Things like harassment are strictly against the rules, and violaters are punished accordingly. If someone is breaking the rules, report them, if they're not but if they're doing something that you feel should be against the rules, suggest as much. If none of this applies, go about your day.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
Caledonia
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Why does anyone block anyone?...

because some people don't like it when you disagree with them.

Edit: for clarity.

At the temple, there is a poem called "Loss" carved into the stone. It has three words, but the poet has scratched them out. You cannot read Loss, only feel it.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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Quote by Mike
Why does anyone block anyone? Things like harassment are strictly against the rules, and violaters are punished accordingly. If someone is breaking the rules, report them, if they&;re not but if they&;re doing something that you feel should be against the rules, suggest as much. If none of this applies, go about your day.

THISSSSSS. Blocking is such a childish way of going about your life.

I honestly don't see the point in having the blocking system anymore, not with the new forum rules that have been in place, and the way staff seems to be enforcing them. If you are being targeted/harassed/etc., report it. If there is an issue, it can be addressed on the forums as well, as long as it's done in a tactful manner. You'd be surprised at the responses/reactions that happen. While it's not always right away, for the most part, the site is fairly responsive to the users needs.

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because some people don&;t like it when you disagree with them.

So, you block people for simply disagreeing with you??

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
Caledonia
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, I don't have anyone blocked. The one person I have had any interaction with that has blocked me, blocked me because I disagreed with their views on something.

At the temple, there is a poem called "Loss" carved into the stone. It has three words, but the poet has scratched them out. You cannot read Loss, only feel it.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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I misunderstood. I would assume you can understand how absurd/abused the blocking feature is now lol. Just ignore it, tbh, and go about your day. You're probably better off if that person wants to block over something so petty. You don't have to worry about them saying anything to you anymore! silver lining

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
Caledonia
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, it's cool, I saw how it could be misinterpreted, so edited it :)

I completely understand how utterly broken it is. The SB issue may or may not have been fixed, but that was/is a major issue.

At the temple, there is a poem called "Loss" carved into the stone. It has three words, but the poet has scratched them out. You cannot read Loss, only feel it.

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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i think the last time i blocked anyone was years ago when 4chan was spamming the site to death. I feel old. Generally though, i feel like if you feel the need to block someone on here (as like said, if they're breaking rules they should be reported not blocked) then you aren't quite emotionally equipped for Subeta seeing as it's more for the slightly more intellectually and emotionally mature than other online game sites/whatever Subeta is technically classed as these days.

But I do agree if you block someone you shouldnt be able to see them on the shoutbox it does seem a tad inconsistent (but i didnt even know that thing still existed so what do i know).

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Nov 11, 2015 10 years ago
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PsychoDreamer

Blocking should be removed or should work only on: comments, sMail, Shoutbox and ping.. the rest of the areas (profiles, forums, groups, cults, trades etc.) should be block free... Blocking is so old young Subeta..

Nov 11, 2015 10 years ago
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Anzo

so wait, have we or have we not gone back to notifying users when someone blocks them?


Nov 11, 2015 10 years ago
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, i feel like if you feel the need to block someone on here (as like Mike said, if they&;re breaking rules they should be reported not blocked) then you aren&;t quite emotionally equipped for Subeta seeing as it&;s more for the slightly more intellectually and emotionally mature than other online game sites/whatever Subeta is technically classed as these days.

Ooor maybe someone says something very hurtful that's technically not breaking the rules and you just don't want to see their posts anymore? Or maybe someone is very, very frequently posting in forums that you go to, and their opinions are hurtful/very damaging and you would rather just block their posts so you can enjoy that forum in peace?

Why should someone have to deal with seeing harmful things on a website that they may go to to relax or escape?

Nov 11, 2015 10 years ago
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Zakie

I agree with , we should be able to block people. I haven't needed to do it, although when I ventured into the debate forums when they existed, I was definitely tempted. :P

But people shouldn't get notified when they're blocked, and we shouldn't be able to stop users from seeing our posts.

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