The price of Subeautique Invitations have lowered to an all time low. The shop never has anything I want in there, I see some new clothes advertised in the news yet haven't seen but 3-4 "new" items since Christmas.

The invitations were to help those that are a little "slow" in shopping the opportunity to get nicer things and as it turned out there is never anything in the shop that is new or exciting by way of clothes. Proof is in the price of the invitations that some shops sell for up to 80 at a time.

I think we need more "new" items. Take out some older ones that no one wants or have been there for ages and generate more interest again in the shop?

Other opinions welcome

I don't think I agree that there's never anything new or exciting in that shop. That would all depend on what you personally are looking for. Personally I've found a ton of nice things just in the last week or so and I've only looked in there a few times. I'm sure if I actually tried to restock I'd find even more.

I think the problem with the Invites falling in price has little to nothing to do with the items that are in there, though. I think that has more to do with the fact that up until a week or two ago I was getting three or four a day and I'm sure a lot of other people were, too. The RE that hands them out was made extremelyyyy common. I think I remember someone saying that staff wanted to make them more available because of the new cosmetics, which are always in the shop, but Idk for sure.

And I'm pretty positive that eventually new items will come and old items will be retired.

Why no SubQ restocks?

Yeah I've had a very hard time catching any restocks since they lowered the restock quantities, it sucks. And I'm sitting on like 50+ invites because I'm too lazy to buy the makeup I can't catch anything :L

See also: Lower SBQ Invite Rate - they&;re less than 100k

Invite prices aren't as low as they were about two weeks ago, partly due to people buying them up, and the powers that be seem to have reduced the rate of invites going out (I've had two in the last week, as opposed to the three a day I had been getting).

We had some new lines not that long ago, and I heard rustlings that there's going to be more soon. I don't want to be bombarded with new items just to use up invites. But I do think a chunk of older lines should be retired.

A SBQ line shouldn't be in the shop for 18 months, there is so much stuff that should be retired, imo.

Y'know what'd be really awesome, and would not only make a fantastic sP sink but also would clear out a ton of the stagnant invites floating around?

If Retro Throwback was the new black of 2015 and Esmerelda decided to bring back ALL of her older lines (anything that was retired before the change in shop structure and that isn't collectively deflated, if any of those sets are relatively affordable) for two weeks, and those sets would ALL function like the makeup lines.

Each would have it's own header/page and they'd always be in stock but they'd always have a higher pricetag. Like, all the wigs would be 5m and all the normal clothing pieces and makeups would be 2-3 million and the accessories (belts, rings, necklaces, etc) would be 1m. If they're cheaper in shop searches that's awesome because those will get purchased by users instantly anyways (or the team can buy them all out, whichever).

People could buy what they wanted + complete sets they were never able to + the cost of invites would be normalized.

Given when they were introduced, the invites were intended to be very rare, I'd dare say that the system is very broken. I was under the impression it was intended to be an sP sink, both invite speaking and items.

As pointed out, if something's in there for +18 months, guess what... there goes the value completely, sP sink gone.

Don't give us new sinks, just fix the ones we have because there is always going to be someone out there who will buy up a wear they really like in the first day.

I COULD BUY ALL OF THE ARGO LINER.

I still regret selling mine for so cheap.

I guess we both gain power from the tears of people who, two years after release, are going to complain "I DIDN'T COMPLETE THAT ONE LINE YET, WHY DID YOU RETIRE IT"

Seriously, every time something retires in SBQ, especially when it's been there for more than one year. I'm all "Why did you procrastinate so bad???"

I know, right?

I can understand if they're like brand new to the site but anything beyond that and I just... procrastination, man.

That's almost exactly what my idea was going to be. I had a dream that subeta starting putting in one retired item in with the normal stock though, and it was like 500k. So there would be the normal stock followed by an extra, an old retired at a higher price.

I've always thought that bringing back OLD subeautique lines for direct purchase would be an A+ sP sink. As time goes on, the idea of new players getting their hands on ancient subq items becomes more and more farfetched. As more people discover older lines, demand doesn't dwindle. The supply does, though.

I've heard that you can get old subq from an item called like "gift of fashions past" or something ?? But honestly I would rather not gamble with that at all, because I like knowing what I'm getting. I want what I want and I'll buy what I want if I know I'm getting what I want. Yeah.

I just spent 10mil on ONE piece of retired subq. One piece. Not a whole set. One. I wouldn't be mad if it became unretired/available for purchase in the way you described. Because things are getting so inflated it's ridiculous.

Staff changed the restocking of the items to 2 in stock per each item, because why? They weren't retaining value? Well here's a hint: people don't want the same old shit that's sat there for 2 years. If you notice that people no longer buy the oldest set still restocking.... RETIRE IT! Then wait like 5 years and bring it back for a big sP sink because by then people will want it again. :P

I don't agree that it is broken as it is. I'm not saying that they shouldn't introduce new stuff or retro stuff. Both of these are fun and I support those things, but not because the system for Subeautique item distribution is broken.

The price of Invites has barely anything at all to do with sP-sinkery. Invites do not cost users anything, so the price of them in sP is sP sloshing around from player to player; no sink there. There's an indirect effect that poorer and newer players can now afford Subeautique items that they couldn't before so more people have them. (It isn't necessarily the goal of Subeta so sink sP from the newer and poorer players, but that's a different issue) To me this increases the fun of the site, and being actually all snooty and exclusive and insisting that new players must somehow really truly be prevented (instead of just being pretend-snooty) isn't so much fun.

Normally I wouldn't bother restocking (instead of just personally acquiring) from Subeautique, too much trouble and too risky. Lately just for laffs I've been able to re-sell at profit even now, so there's totally interest from users wanting these items even if some of all y'all are bored by it. While I am amused by doing this it is at my own risk, I don't feel that Subeta must owe me or any speculator a profit from selling Invites or restocking.

Yes, I agree there are A LOT that can be retired (maybe I'm biased because I have them all finished and they are literally the only things I ever see in there anymore) >.>

I don't even want to talk about the amount I've spent on retired SubQ items. (that fucking kimono man... that they revamped anyway... I just... don't get me started)

Yeah I would love to see the old things come back as an sP sink (and to help clear some of the invites out of the system). Tbh I would love it if the whole shop worked like the makeup section, even if pieces were like 500k brand new. But I'm biased because I could barely ever catch a restock before they lowered the amounts stocking :L

I'm still catching stuff, so I'm not sure that's as much of an issue as it seems to be - you just have to check a lot more often that you did before they lowered the stock amounts. Pings don't go out for the most part, anymore, and if they do everything is gone by the time you get there. So I just have SBQ on my bookmarks and check it every 10 minutes or so.

Just by doing that, I'm caught up to all but 4 out of the 15 items the Professor New Magnetized set, and all but 4 of 11 pieces of the Professor New Polarity line. Those were the last two released; I have everything else that is currently stocking.

One issue is that the newer lines are huge, more than twice as big as some of the older sets. So it takes a looooooong time to catch all of the items. Combine that with the fact that there's so much old shit still stocking to clutter up the restocks, and that's why you're never seeing anything new. There's usually only 1, maybe 2 items from the newest set per restock. 2 of each item those, every hour if you're lucky? With people who are tracking the restocks and refreshing right on time, those disappear instantly and there ya go, you never see anything new.

I don't get why clearing out stock isn't more of a priority. SBQ is a very popular site feature and an excellent, stable sp sink. I understand that clearing things too often or clearing too much would just send the problem in the opposite direction, but maybe more consistency like say... a set is automatically removed after a year. Period. Everyone knows they have a year to get it, things start moving smoothly, there aren't massive clearings that send prices skyrocketing and people into a tailspin. Nice and easy-peasy.

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The SBQ invites were given out way too often earlier this year. Usually I get one or two max per day, but the previous months sometimes I get nearly five a day, and two of them are just during battle quests. The invites aren't rare, but they should be uncommon or else there will be too many of them out there.

Not sure about restocking past fashion. I thought fashion's supposed to have new things every now and then, although some stuff do make a comeback.

Some stuff in the older sets was always a ridiculous price though, like 10m+, thanks to the way the shop used to stock. Honestly, I think it'd make the Gift of Fashions Past kinda pointless if they splurged out all the old items. :x It's not like there isn't a potential source for these items to trickle in.

And pretty much the same story as . If you either keep track of the restocks (this isn't hard so no need for excuses; I always see this argument when the system is entirely predictable) or check back often you can still dust off the new sets quickly. Since the change, I've went from needing about 15 items to 3 by checking in sporadically. The price of invites... it's a problem, but hey, I took advantage of it and bought all the makeup and spares for future releases so.

Well, if you want to see new items you just have to F5 the page till you catch a new restock. That's why you don't see anything new. People are buying up any stock probably to get the skin that is available randomly. Which sucks but I don't buy things I don't need just for a chance of the skin. I will eventually get it. The one good thing I like about the changes is the 5 minute rule, one person can't go in there and buy the whole lot of that one new item, so that gives us a chance at it, but you really have to stalk that page. Whatever item doesn't have a blue box around it, I don't buy it and leave it for others who need it.

Plus, I also think that when a new line is debuted, the invites gets gobbled up and prices go up. Just put them in your vault and when you need them, they'll be there. Especially for all the makeup they put out, you need at least 5 or 6 to buy all the items in that line. They make great birthday and Luminaire gifts (invites I mean).

Yes, they need to retire all lines a year or older. Just saying.

You know, unpopular opinion time, but I think it's time to retire stuff in all clothing shops, not just Subeautique.

Monster shirts were released in 2009, namely, and most of the stock is from 2009-2012. A lot less stuff was added to the clothing rack in the past few years.

I'd be okay with a mass release of basic stuff for Mauve/Accessory Bin /Sole Train if a bunch of old stuff retired. Even if it's just basic stuff in 6-8 colors that is not ROYGBIV.

The wardrobe part of the site is FAR FROM NEGLECTED, but clothing rack is neglected. Send help.

I don't like the Gift of Fashions Past as a viable option, never have really but now more than ever. The fact that the MCTs are all basically options now and soo many of those are like 25k just.. is too much of a gamble. Not to mention the sheer number of retired SubQ options.

Maybe if they removed some of the older/hyper deflated things it wouldn't be so bad but as it stands now it's basically as bad as that Arctic chance machine. I understand there's supposed to be a gamble to it but anything that costs real money shouldn't be THAT much of a gamble.

And really, there has to be apoint where staff decide what they want more-- a viable sP sink or 50 cents. Because I bet after a few bucks of 100k and under unsellables.. most people won't keep going. That wasn't the case before because a) you got a bunch of stuff at once so there was a higher chance of getting something in the batch that made it worth it, and b) most people just waited until black friday to go nuts.

That said-- Idk, not to toot my own non-existent horn or anything, but I think staff could jazz up a retro throwback concept. Make it happen during Fashion Week, and only bring back the older sets (retired before the change/have at least one hyper inflated peice) that've been recently revamped. It should be really easy for the artist who recently revamped something to add a few new pieces to the set. Like, for example, the Eddie Bell LoliPOP set-- why not add a matching parasol, designer limited edition stuffed animal (don't they always have stuffed animals?), and maybe some lips and eyes.

I just made that an sP sink within an sP sink + an invite burner what more does staff want xD

I've always wished old Subq lines would make a temporary return -at least- when they're newly revamped. Depending on how old said line was, the items definitely aren't available enough anymore (with inactive accounts and whatever userbase growth, even if little). :/

I can see staff not wanting to unretire them all at once, as that kind of defeats the purpose of the GoFP machine, but at least unretiring specific sets every once in a while (again, especially after revamps) for reasonably high prices would make a very nice sp sink indeed! CTs* may come back during sales... how about Subq sets? Never? *CT pieces are also available in the GoFP machine, if I'm not mistaken. A few of them are still worth fair amounts, since they come back at rare occasions and not exactly for free.

About the new Subq changes, I still think a price increase + scheduled retirements + watching out how many pieces go out via quests/games would've done a better job than just making stock overall less available to the public. In the end, that just takes away (imo) from the new shop system's biggest advantage: to make restocking less frustrating for wardrobe collectors.