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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
FLUX
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Gerudo

Self explanatory really. They should have been lowered when the stock was lowered, but they keep building up in people's accounts and have essentially become next to worthless now. The drop rate either needs to be decreased or the invites removed from the system again. Or the stocks increased again - which I would prefer but don't see likely for the staff to implement.

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Yup. I've found nine invites in the least three days. Getting them faster than I can use them. I wouldn't normally mind (I've never been one to buy invites, and I haven't tried to sell any in eons), it's just that managing the price of invites in user shops was apparently Very Important at the end of last year, but apparently isn't now. Do make your mind up.

I'd at least like some confirmation that the current strategy with stock in the SBQ is actually have the desired effect on item prices, rather than just being a pain in the arse for no reason.



Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Cutethulhu

It's because for some bizarre reason, they pretty much simultaneously increased the invite drop and decreased the stock in the shop. Doing one or the other might have worked, but doing both just caused everyone who plays regularly to end up with a forty-invite buildup in their account, which of course dropped the invite price because the demand is so much lower.

My preference is just to increase the stock in the shop and see if that helps at all, but I guess dropping the RE frequency would work too (though I still like finding them even if I can't use them, lol).

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Piety

pretty soon they'll be worth less than the disaster that was morty cards XD. seriously when restock rates are tweaked it should be obvious that the invites random rate needs to be too :/

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Josie

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It&;s because for some bizarre reason, they pretty much simultaneously increased the invite drop and decreased the stock in the shop.

lol economics fail

Came in to post I totally agree with everyone here. :3 Less than 100k is appalling really considering they were worth even upwards of 500k a piece. Georgiana should be feeling pretty dang upset right now.

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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

Actually, we should use this opportunity to go, buy them all up and raid the makeup store.

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Hydragellos

That's cheap, someone should buy them

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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Raven Darkholme

What Sopheroo said :D I'm getting my makeup on before they finally do something to fix it, lol.

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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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BUSINESS

The whole way this has played out has just been beyond dumb. When the new Subeautique was initially rolled out, the idea was the invites would be the primary limiting factor in how often people could RS items. If Keith thought too many SBQ items were going out, the amount of invites being put out by the RE should have been lowered, especially considering ~4 times as many were going out because the RE cooldown time is STILL at the Luminaire rate.

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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Yes please. I've been getting too many -_-

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Riza

Not going to lie I bought up some invites earlier myself. I really wish they would just put the shop back to how it was the first time it was changed. It's a pain trying to find anything in there now and that doesn't help with the invite situation. Decreasing the number of items per restock and keeping the invites the same, or more now, was a really dumb move. I saw nothing the matter with how it was before, but maybe I'm just blind.


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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
FLUX
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Gerudo

The lower restock rate was an attempt to add value to the items - but they are still as cheap as before and now the invites are useless as well haha.

If the staff wants items to keep a high value then they should increase the purchase price to around 300k. The permanent makeup items have this price, it makes no sense that the more limited items are cheaper.

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Unkindled

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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Hyacinthe

Also, I'm against manipulating the invite rate because as soon as invites will be "too expensive", people are going to ask for the rate to be brought up again and then we will enter a spiral of users want to control the rate invites go out, rather than staff.

Increase restock prizes. Retire stuff. But stop playing with invite rates.

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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Riza

Wow, well they really messed that up then.

I'd be okay with putting the stock back to how it was and increasing the prices at this point. I just really hate going in there and not finding anything at all or finding it stocked and it's all older things I already have.


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Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
FLUX
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Gerudo

So much yes about retiring stuff that I'm practically in tears. It's so stupid when stuff stays in there for like 2 years - how can it possibly retain any sort of value ._.

Mar 7, 2015 11 years ago
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I would love it if the invite drop rate decreased slightly (make the cool down at least six hours) and the RS rate increased... seeing the shop empty all the time is boring, so I've basically stopped RSing there. It's not worth refreshing, especially when so many of the items are super cheap in user shops.

If the cost of an invite + the cost of the item in subq > price in user shops, there's a huge issue. When invites cost ~400K this was basically never an issue... but now it's not that unheard of.

I loved the idea of the invites when they were first released because it solved the problem of the items being unrestockable for anyone who wasn't willing to camp out in the shop and refresh constantly. But the invites are so cheap now that anyone can just stock up on 20-30 of them and it's almost the same as it was before they were even introduced.

Mar 8, 2015 11 years ago
FLUX
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Gerudo

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But the invites are so cheap now that anyone can just stock up on 20-30 of them and it&;s almost the same as it was before they were even introduced.

Exactly my thinking :c

Mar 8, 2015 11 years ago
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Raven Darkholme

Quote by Sopheroo
Increase restock prizes. Retire stuff. But stop playing with invite rates.

I mean, I think those limited edition lines that were made around last masquerade? It pissed people off at the time because they were hard to catch and retired with little warning (iirc) but well, you can't say they didn't retain value!

If the lines didn't stay around for 2 years, pieces wouldn't be selling for 300k-600k.

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Mar 9, 2015 11 years ago
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I think it would've been easier to decrease the invitation rate but keep the previous stock amount, though I'm not the most economic-savvy. coughs

While now is a good time to stock up on makeups, I think if they changed the stock amounts back as things are now, it'd make SubQ item prices go down, because I hear of people holding onto even 50+ invites because they don't really know what to do with them atm.

But if they changed it back, I suppose they could lower the subQ invite rate exponentially and hope that balance returns once people finally spend more invites due to increased stock.

Gah, I'm just not really sure, but imo the bottom line is that there's too many SubQ invites floating around with too little stock.

I wonder if they don't retire those long-running pieces because there's nothing to replace them? If that's the case, I wonder if they could retire them and bring back a really old line that is not as deflated, at least for a short while in order to keep at least x amount of lines stocking in the store?

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