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Sep 15, 2017 8 years ago
Maskros
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I hope that helps a bit :D The list is awesome, by the way. I think it's accurate, but if we spot some minor mistakes later on we can always fix them :D

Just how many Imp tokens have you got that you ended up with 34k+ easy tokens :O I think the most I've got traded down is like enough easy tokens to get myself 110 endurance potions :P Trust me I was very upset when Sophie gave me EH tokens :P, then GE too :P.

You can view Prodigy's weapons here. Basically he uses the same weapons as his upgraded version. Only his stats are lower. has got 5 wins against Vintageprod with her T9 pet so she can offer you advice on strategy. You might need a slightly different strat though since between you your stat distributions and APs are quite different.

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Thanks! Making it took some work, but now that it's complete it should be easy enough to keep updated.

I just figured it would be nice to have an on-site list of unlockable challengers with them all in one place, instead of having that information kind of spread all over. Questions about where challengers come from come up frequently enough, so hopefully it can be helpful to people.

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Thank you for the responses (and especially for the stats!)

My pet has an even build except for lower speed, so his stats are around 1600 but like 900 something speed.

What are some blasters you would recommend? I don't think I've used any before actually.

So far here are my considerations for the weapon set:

- The water damage will be blocked, but it'll do 30-50 of the other icons. What entices me though is the 100 block on fire and water (plus 10% heal). On the other hand it's OPB so I don't know if it will be worth the slot - probably, as I'm imagining it to basically buy me a turn - blocks damage, allows me to heal, and do a bit of damage at the same time.

- I feel like the water block really cuts the power on this, but I definitely like the 7% heal and wind block, plus it's infinite use and has 4 mod slots which I might be able to use to my advantage (?) However I'm actually wondering if the Large Gutting Knife would be a better option in this case...

- With the water block, the trident will do like 10 magma and 7 earth, block 10 or 15 wind, and heal 7%. The knife however does 30-34 icons of wind, physical, and dark - and blocks lighting and also heals 7%. So I'm thinking, maybe replace the trident with the knife for this set.

- I guess I'll want both of these, to save me when I get hit real hard, yeah?

versus - These both take Freezer slot, I'm wondering which would be better though? It looks like the shards do more damage but don't have much in the way of defense.

- Full blocker... Y/N? I'm also considering using a Negating Pylonic as a full blocker as well.

- Good damage and defense = maybe a good attacker? Am I at eight items yet? :P

As for the scrolls, I have 144 AP and I have 2x Cobalt Eternal, 2x Shrief of Despair, and 1x Aftershocks. Also have a Holy Deluge but not sure if it'll be useful here. I have never used the shriek or aftershocks before and honestly I don't know how to use them strategically.

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I'm doing a little bit of thinking aloud so I'm going to edit this post several times to add more information as I go. Hope you don't mind. The Omen Key club should protect you for a turn (not sure it will heal until after a knock-off godly is generated, as I don't own the item myself). After a godly is generated, you'll either have protection against fire or water. With this in mind, you should bring both a complementary water block (for when it generates Wrath of whatever) and a fire block (for when it generates SoSS). If you don't mind a bunch of losses, you can bring only one complementary weapon (either fire or water block) and forfeit the battle when it doesn't generate the weapon you want.

Rapier of Error is good for its curse and freeze chance; however, at your speed and health and against a stronger opponent like Vinprod, I'd advise against it, since it will leave you vulnerable (w/o chunk blocking of Vinprod's main icons and heal) to his attack. I'd go with Scientist Specs instinctively, but Shards can be nice only if your freezing scrolls can guarantee you a freeze first turn. If not, it's quite risky to use it.

Trident can be good but only for pets with high health. T9 pets with more standard/ even build will not find Trident very useful unless the blessing activates (which it doesn't frequently). For partial fire and wind block I'm thinking about which can open up a slot for you for another weapon, but you might still need another infinite scroll with heal and attack.

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Definitely work on reading, having more AP is extremely beneficial - and it'll help a ton with night lady if she comes back this year too

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Oh! The omen key club is only OPB or the weapons it generates is only OPB? The notes in subetalodge are a little confusing but the stats on it look really good. Really good blasters to use are and . Although the trident does a lot of water damage, it also has the potential to activate a blessing that will fully block water and magma. The block on the gutting knife also doesn't help, whereas prodigy does a small amount of wind. are better than the shards of space and time, however, I would recommend using . The helmet can be made in the battle shop and will protect you from freezing for a turn in case your freeze protection doesn't activate. Your best set will look like this:

or (omg I forgot about this one! )

You have a ton more AP, which will help immensely with the right scrolls. Equip all the ones you have except for holy deluge. Aftershocks would be better. Aftershocks blocks 7 earth, 5 dark and 5 physical. The heal is 7% but it does a lot more damage than holy deluge. The shrieks are really good. If you can get more/borrow more shrieks, you can chain freeze him. You could also try equipping a bunch of that are a lot cheaper but have a much lower chance to freeze.

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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According to SubetaLodge, the Omen Key Club can generate a 8-10% healer, which should be a good investment. I don't have it to test though so I really can't offer much advise here.

and work together for blasting, Soma will turn one item into an empty pillbox and the blaster a recycled wad, but sometimes they can target the same item, so be careful. Stealing is enabled so maybe + Recycle Blaster? I stole 2 atomic waves and did not notice him replacing them during the rest of the battle just now. He did demonstrate two h2o attacks afterward and at least a third atomic wave.

I'd hesitantly say drop the Trident in favor of the Large Gutting Knife due to the additional damage you can do plus the lightning block.

IMO having both of those healers will help, as that is how I survived a lot of difficult battles in the same tier years ago.

Scientist Specs look like they are definitely more helpful with the 25 water/lightning block, and you can use the mod slots for some extra attack or defense as needed.

Temple Shard for a blocker is probably a good idea. Definitely include Negating Pylonic as a backup. Using the Dark [element] Potions and the Pylonics can gradually chip away at an enemy and give you a needed boost.

At this point if you keep and use all of the above(Omen Key Club(for the attacker/healer it spawns), Soma(/Truth Serum), Recycle Blaster, Large Gutting Knife, RotL, PQ, Scientist Specs, Temple Shard) you're up to 8 items equipped, leaving you no room for Rapier of Error. And the Rapier(per SubetaLodge) says it has a 1% chance of freezing at your speed, so that isn't much worth it for freezing. As for attacking and defense the attack is okay but you're getting only 7 water icons blocked and up to a ton of useless ice icons blocked. That it doesn't even heal you means I'd chuck it. but maybe someone else has a better opinion for it.

Using freezer scrolls would be your best investment. Shriek of Despair has something in the 70% chance of successfully freezing, so using them one after the other once you do freeze Vintage Prodigy while also attacking as hard as you can is generally how that goes, you want to chain-freeze. Aftershocks is a perfectly good infinite use attacker and healer to use on turns when you don't freeze or cannot freeze any longer.

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Maskros did it!! :)

You Won! You have defeated Vintage Prodigy 5 times!

Vintage Prodigy drops: Pro Battler Sticker Prodigy Statue

You earned 6561 sP for beating Vintage Prodigy! Maskros earned 1181 EXP Points!

I tested my theory and managed to get 5 wins against Vinprod. If you can replicate my set there is a very high chance that you will get 5 wins if not more:

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The weapons with ** have their equivalents which are just as good: = OR plus : I actually didn't use this in my fights so I think replacing it with a second full block or a full heal (PQuill) might be a better choice.

Scrolls:

Explanations and mods: I used Frostbite Amulet + Anchor because both have chance to freeze, block the right icons (as for Frostbite, it acts almost like a full block at your stats during the first few fights. My T9 pet has lower def and health and it does the job just fine unless she is crit-hit) and Anchor has 50% chance to heal 11%. For mods: + + + x3 + x1 Or you can replace the singed baguettes with another crit strike and 2 BoNAs. I was lazy and didn't want to replace my singed mods which I used and still want to use for another opponent.

As for sequence: First turn: Specs + full block + aftershocks Second: double blast + gelaspell This turn will have medium chance to freeze.

If Vinprod is frozen, I'd use Frostbite Amulet + Anchor + Gelaspell and hope for a chain freeze (which did happen quite frequently for me).

If not, I'd use Frostbite + Anchor + Triple Threat.

When I need an emergency freeze, I'd use Frostbite + Reviver + Shriek.

I didn't use any Negating Pylonics, but if you think the battle is a close one and you need that protection for another freeze or to finish him off, you can use that one. Light, dark, water, fire, magma and even life shard would help in a pinch. I didn't use any throwing potions but if you want you can use them to throw in some extra damage to finish him off quickly as well.

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Congratulations! Nicely done.

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
Maskros
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Thank you very much :)

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Challenger List thread is up and running!

I know this thread is almost at the point where it will be locked, but could this new thread be added to the first post with the other useful links?

[Discontinued] Complete List of Unlockable Challengers

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Thank you to anonymous ( or again?). I am very grateful for your generous help!

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203,240 / 2,750,000
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You can do it! Everyday brings you closer you your goal.

Interesting to read your opinions of mecha.

- Congratulations! That was quick!!! Especially since you were planning to wait. :-) You are amazing.

Who needs to wait and boost stats anyway??? :-)

- hi - welcome to the Battle Chat thread.

And thank you again for making the Gelatin War easier for so many of us by figuring out how to give us that damage counter!

My main battler Tos is at T9 but hasn't fought Vintage Prodigy just yet (I have a big monthly game day tomorrow and will probably wait until after that). If you're battling tonight, I have an that I would be happy to lend you. That could turn out to be a good upgrade to your (or even addition if you have the extra slot). I also have an Aftershocks Scroll you could borrow with it.

I see has already told you how her T9, Oranos, got the job done. (She is one of the best at figuring out how to get wins with lower tier pets.) And also got five wins with her T9, Maskros. So they will both have some great suggestions.

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I know. And I am ready to do it. The problem is usually trying to find an empty chunk of time to get it done. :-)

- I now seem to own a so I will definitely be giving that a try! :-)

There's a new in my armory too!

- hi! Nice to see you here. I know Kilroy had no trouble with the TBTs and Vintage Prodigy is too tough for SunDragon right now (unless you snuck up to T9 somehow while I wasn't looking). How is SunDragon doing otherwise in the Battle Coliseum?

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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You're welcome :)

Hi! Pleasant to see you in here again too, I've really fallen behind on keeping up with profile comments. Yeah, Kilroy got some satisfaction out of sipping on Vintage Prodigy's tears, but Sun is most definitely too far away to try tackling that foe just yet. He's still about 600 stats shy of T7, though I hope to get him midway through T8 by month's end with some solid boosting. I've recently decided to swap out a Shriek of Despair for a Gift of the Forj scroll on his scroll set and I'm thinking it is time to see if he can tackle some enemies that were previously just outside of his reach, but so far he's still hovering at level 15 of BQs.

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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- we'll catch up on profile comments when you're ready. I think lots of other things have been keeping us all busy recently.

Keep me posted on how Sun is doing. I really enjoy watching him grow and Grow and GROW!

- why Reviver of the Lion rather than Phoenix Quill? (Or is it just because your Phoenix Quill was on loan somewhere?)

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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1 IMP = 81 Easy Tokens! I had a couple of hundred, + EH and whatnot :P So yeah it was like 32.5k or something altogether

Mhmm, I'm not used to saving EXP as I just spend it as soon as I get it, but as I'm working on my build now its easier to save and splurge haha! Yeah, its not my favourite weapon to use, but it has its uses :P BTW PStaff takes healer slot so thats why he went with Reviver ;)

I have a few Shriek scrolls if you ever need to borrow them!

[edit] As for that Key blade, I think if the weapons it generated actually blocked 100, and not 10 or 100 I'd probably already own one lol. 10 from 100 is a lot in key battles :P

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Thanks again everyone for the great comments and congrats Maskros on the wins. I think I will try something close to your set.

I don't have a good blocker at the moment so I'd appreciate a loan of the Amulet of Neutrality. I will be up all night I think, mostly coding, but battling is kinda fun to do during breaks.

I want to try using the scrolls I have first, if I think it's not enough though I'll keep the offers in mind. So kind of you and to offer these :)

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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- I always save my EXP so maybe I can help encourage you and cheer you on as you go. Think about how much fun you'll have doing a controlled boost all at once after your reach your goal.

- on it's way. Please feel free to keep it through all of Saturday as I will have real life company. Sometime Sunday will be more than soon enough to return it. Hope you have good luck with it in the Battle Coliseum. Battling should be a nice break from coding and I can't wait to find out (next Thursday?) what nice improvements you've created for us this week. :-)

By the way, didn't notice a Recycle Blaster in your list. I have one of those I could send as well. I should be here for a little bit (I want to do tomorrow's Bathhouse visit and dailies before turning off the computer) so just let me know.

Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Haha I almost choked on my yoghurt drink 😂 I tend to favour Reviver for the extra bit of defence. When Maskros has more health perhaps I'll switch to PQuill. I guess it's just out of habit that I'd pick defence over pure heal whenever I pit Maskros against stronger opponents :P, definitely there wasn't any strategical thinking there when it comes to which full heal to pick when I prepared my set for her to go against Vinprod.

[edit] PQuill is still with me :P

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I don't know how you do it! I don't have the patience lol, same with training, couldn't tell you the last time I actually trained at the centre! It's much easier to boost haha.

Couldn't use your pquill + pstaff anyway :P XD I suppose lower tiers, reviver is actually better anyway :o but a 1-5 block in higher tiers isn't gonna do much anyway ;D

[edit] HUH? Pqull doesn't take healer slot o_0

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Sep 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Ooh? That's new! :O Why is it that we can't use Pquill and Pstaff? :O

Yeah for Hanson I just pick whatever full heal is closest to the cursor or my clicking range because lazy :P. Plus scroll + weapon + Reviver = 107% heal plus anyway so that's still good.

[edit] Just saw your edit. LOL 😂

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