i believe that only happens if you click too fast/double click (i run into it in bqs if i get hasty)

Oh, I see, thank you!

At least I am not the only one experiencing this. Knowing that already helps big time :-)

Could the weapon box height be a fixed height, so when you use 4 OPB weapons, it doesn't collapse, causing the make turn button to move?

I would just say that even if in the short run its more confusing for you. I guarantee you that in the long run if you embrace the auto select system you will be much faster and more efficient.

BQ battles against someone like Saggi went from 30-90+ seconds to 4-5 seconds.

When I saw scrolls weren't being auto selected anymore, I thought it was a balance change, not a UI change.

With things like Gelatin wars being largely determined by how efficient you can be, it is going to be essential to learn the auto select system or your going to get left behind. I have a feeling this gelatin war the bar is going to be 5million for a core, but I have a feeling a TON of people are going to hit that number because it is so much easier to speed through battles, it could be much higher next time around.

When I want speed (Gelatin War or BQs though Level 20) the autoselect system is great - no disagreement there at all.

And there is not really any system to learn - it picks two weapons (the ones on the left) it uses them (it picks a scroll - the one on top - or the left) it uses it, if you want to change them you can. If I want to change my weapons or scrolls, I do it (paying attention to the blue arrow), if I don't want to I click Make Your Turn. Easy - to learn how the mechanics work. (Besides I have an MS in computer science and worked for many years as a software developer - including on the first release of cell phone software in the US - I can learn how to use almost anything on a computer - and have been through many iterations of system changes of all sorts).

My problem won't go away by embracing the auto select system or by using it more (or, I promise you I would have done that first before even speaking up). My problem is that - for tough battles - where I want strategy rather than speed - the data I need to be able to see all at one time in order to choose which weapons, which scroll and which potion to use the next turn isn't there to see any more. And since (as I learned back in college computer science classes) the human brain is able to handle 7 (plus or minus 2) chunks of data at one time - and since I'm probably already trying to handle more than that as it is - I can't afford to add another missing piece of data (like having to remember which potions I still have available and which ones I've already used) - I need to be able to see that on the screen in front of me.

It's true that I will learn to know more weapons and scrolls on sight. And as my main pet grows certain opponents will become less difficult. But until I have a capped pet there will always be some opponent that I need to think really hard to fight. So I'm going to keep needing to see that data available in front of me for a very long time to come. And when it's not there, and I make dumb mistakes, or lose my place, or just don't have the time to do as many battles because the thinking takes too long now, I don't have any fun. (This is a game, after all. It's supposed to be fun not just fast.)

With the old interface, I was often beating Surge two times a day in BQs. For each of those wins I needed ten or twenty or more battles. It often took me over an hour to get those wins. And I needed to get very lucky with my limited freezers, and I needed to take very calculated risks to maximize my limited healers and I needed to get lucky with blessing activation and even after all of that, sometimes, I needed a Negating Pylonic (and I needed to decide which battles to try that in and which turn because I don't have an infinite supply or infinite sP to replace them) and I just can't do all of that without seeing things on the screen in front of me while I work. And with the new interface it takes me so much longer to fight Surge that I just don't fight him anymore during BQs.

And, as far as the core goes, I might have an outside chance of managing 5 million in damage with Tos (my T9). If I get lucky with my AoN and my limited freezers and my one Perilous Whirlpool Scroll, I might be able to manage it with 2000 battles or about 250 a day. But my wrist won't survive clicking through 250 battles too quickly. And I don't enjoy just clicking for hours for anything. I'd rather quest for a month (or six months) and buy something (or even just do without it), than sit and be miserable for hours on end and have a sore wrist for days. And there are other things I need to do like beat the TBT challengers with my 4 pets and beat another 2000 Mini Gelatins (or at least make some progress there) and try to beat 10 Gelatin Wizards to win the concoction (which will be hard for me at T9). Not to mention other non battle things both on Subeta (like the Quest-A-Thon and Wayward Squirrel for both of which I already have commitments} and in real life.

But I'm one of the lucky ones who has already earned a core. My very first serious boss battle was the last Gelatin War and two of my three pets (the ones I spent serious time battling with) were top 10 percent of their tier - my main (then T8) and my baby battler (then T2) who was first in her tier and won my core (something I didn't even know anything about at that time). I know I might need a second one to make the essence, since it's one of my best weapons and I still have lower tier pets, but I have time since I have no pet that can use the essence now.

I love battling for the challenge (and the other battlers!) so I want to spend time and enjoy it. I understand not wanting to have things lag or be super slow, but, to be very honest, I don't understand the point of just making everything faster. If I'm actually having fun, I don't always want to make it go by faster. (And if you're not having fun, then what is the point of playing?)

Just to be totally clear though, I am absolutely one hundred percent behind keeping autoselection as an option for those who want it (and for others like me, who want it sometimes too). I just want to make clear that it has real deficiencies for some of us at times. And I also want to mention how much I appreciate and for listening to everyone and trying to make battling fun for all of us - and especially to for doing the extra work to provide options to make that possible.

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree.

When I want speed (Gelatin War or BQs though Level 20) the autoselect system is great - no disagreement there at all.

These are 2 completely opposite statements, I was only commenting on speed and efficiency not aesthetic. I think you also underestimate the efficiencies that you can get out of automating your opening blaster sequence for challengers that require blasting.

So there's a problem with your active pet being autoselected: I am not training my tier 12 pet, because I got tired of 10 hour training times. I am, however, training a tier 7. This pet is set as my active pet because that allows me to monitor its training time with the battle pet widget. Being my active pet, this pet is autoselected at the staging page for battles.

My default weapon set is selected with the warning that I can't use it for a T7 pet, which is fine. My default scroll set now unselected with the warning that my default pet doesn't have enough AP for it. This causes me to end up in battle without a scroll set defeating the point of having a default set at all. I couldn't see that this happened at first because it's off the page.

In order to accommodate the UI changes I have to select my default scroll set every battle or swap active pet every time I want to battle then swap back in order to preserve the ability to track training time, or give that up and leave my T12 that I am not training as the active pet and lose that widget functionality.

This could be solved by keeping the default scroll set selected even if the active pet cannot use it the same way the default weapon set is.

Then again, and this sounds salty, I'm not the kind of player this UI is designed for. All I get is the impression that everything I do is wrong.

Yes, the weapon set stays selected and has a text warning on it that your pet cannot use it if it has weapons too high for its tier. You also get an error page if you try to enter battle with it selected.