Well all I know is that this change is NOT for the better. There are players on here that i am sure who dont/cant do all the quests (Sarah for example because to much Sp). I also feel if this is how it is going to stay, Staff needs to make sure it is working for everyone, and that they adjust the costs of the items in the Quest shop that are seasonal. There are people on here who like to collect one of everything (which will be impossable) at the current costs. Again like I said before there are also the players who don't/can't do all the quests, so in my opinion this is not a fair way of doing the QP exchange.

And there are users who do not visit the forums (I myself get very confused and cant find what i want) so they would not have know about the change thru that method. I only know about this because i was pinged in a group that i already belonged to.

Anyways, I somehow just know it's 1 in 5 quests for some time...I don't remember where I got the information, probably from somebody's replies in the forums.

In case you guys didn't know...

Then the sidebar also doesn't update when you go back to the start quest page since it was exactly the same and updates the count on that page for me and always has since the last update to it. I'm not so dumb that iI didn't check the count once I went back to the main page to be sure it was the same before I posted.

Also I can count to 4, which is how many quests I did when iI was awarded the first QP of the day. I am getting them on quests ending in a count of 4 and 9 instead of 5 and 0s. Also Me-Guru mentioned she got hers at her 3rd quest of the day, pretty sure she knows the difference between 3 quests and 5 quests

regarding the quest points, they don't reset at midnight... if you finished the day before with 1 quest after the reward, you'll get the next token at quest of the next day, and so on, every 5 completed quests.

They simply carry over to the next day.

I think this is dumb, and i was getting more qp even yesterday! then i wake up to this awesome script taking over? I would rather have qp be random. but we know it doesnt matter what one person thinks

I'm perplexed why the quest points counter doesn't reset at midnight with the quests themselves.

I'm also in agreement with a post I saw (maybe somewhere else) that this change kind of takes the element of fun/surprise out of it. I'm not a huge fan of this change. Quest points are kind of...boring when they're doled out on schedule.

I think I'm still confused over when you're suppose to get them. I understand every 5th quest. I haven't gave up on any quest and yet now I'm getting a point on a different quest number. Last night I got the first point of the day on my 4th quest and it followed every 5th quest correctly. Now as I continue I got a point on the 2nd quest, figured it was correct, but then another on the 5th quest.

Maybe it's trying to fix itself now. I just got 2 points in a row. lol

I'm aware, I'm the one who brought that up on here as well. However Grelca's response to me brining that up and showing it with a screenshot was to be told that I couldn't count and I'd actually done 10 not 9, which is incorrect. Apparently the script is not supposed to carry over and everyone pointing out it does was ignored by her when she chose to tell me I was wrong in my counting.

If this is the new method, its fine, but it needs to work properly across the board and there should've been an announcement so that many of us could have reported months ago that it was not actually functioning as intended. Staff response of basically an eye roll and saying that its been this way since May is bunk because it clearly actually has not been working correctly - part of the script didn't even activate until late last night - so why did it suddenly start counting 8 months later? Obviously not everyone has been on the same QP distribution.

Um, is there a limit to how many quest points we can earn per day now? I know about the 1 point per 5 cause I just got one.

Oh. I read so many posts here I lost track of who said what.

I have noticed the tendency of 3 QP per day on my logs, but hadn't paid much attention to it until today, when the words changed in the quests, when they gave out the QP.

Working right or not, I agree there should have been an announcement when the change was made.

it would have been nice to get a ping, yes. if we didn't get a ping for the shop search update, I wouldn't have cared though.

hopefully people join # tinyupdate so the complaining can stop and we can get the information out there.

there's enough complaining going on that maybe the script should be looked at to make sure it's performing the way it should and if it's not, fixed. I kinda wonder if a group of people were still in one of the groups for testing purposes and were just moved out of it last night for some reason.

I joined earlier ^_^

Speaking for myself, I didn't notice any relevant or big change in getting QP from yesterday to today, or any of the days before. It was just the wording, and it made me wonder.

Then it kinda dawned of me that, indeed, since May 2015, I had been getting 2-3 QP per NPC

I know the thread is getting long haha.

I honestly don't pay enough attention to notice one way or the other. I don't think there was any change on my end, but there could have been and I wouldn't know.

some people insist that they've been this way since May and others insist that they haven't been. I know users were put into groups when Keith was testing out different rates, so maybe that's why it only affects some users and not others. only a guess, but it would make sense that that could be what's going on. it could just be a perception thing too.

If we're going to be complaining about extremely minor things that aren't being announced (The quest points, the fragging ratio) then why not go ahead and include the actual cash payouts. They've all been rounded! I haven't gotten an odd number of sP in WEEKS! It's all even hundreds, what am I supposed to do without getting rewards in increments of 13 or 48 or 72?????????

call me crazy, but I do have a way to know it's been like this since May. i just hadn't really paid much attention if it was awarding every 5 completed quests...

I just thought they were random and we could get up to 3 (sometimes 4) QP, instead of 7-9 like before then.

[edit] I actually found that change refreshing LOL Though not all quests give rounded up sP rewards. For example, today's quests. I ended up with random amounts, ending in 2, 4, 6, 7 (517,626 sP for example)

Yeah, Saggi just gave me 116,450, which while round, isn't an even hundred. I haven't actually been tracking my payouts, but it feels like every time I've paid attention, it's been round hundos. (Also I was only being joking about this change because it seems so minor an inconsequential, much like the this board and the fragging on) (But really though, it's like Canada getting rid of the penny, which is actually neat, except it's more like the bank stopped handing out pennies but all of the stores can still charge them so it doesn't really make a difference so I don't get it)

yep, I've noticed I've gotten like 128,000 sP and that feels NICE lol

I see both points. On one hand, I feel like users have the right to make threads like this, asking for an official word on changes like QP rewards, or fragging ratios... however, sometimes we simply take it to extremes, especially when we 1) don't get a reply from staff, or 2) don't agree with the change at all.

Plus, not everyone reads all comments, so things need to be repeated over and over (I admit I don't read ALL the comments, but I do scroll through all pages, looking for staff comments).

Like you, I have gotten several points in a row, even with just questing one person at a time. I'm on very slow laptop with even slower net right now so it takes me a while to even quest (I really miss my desktop right and fast net right now lol). Also, I think in the Wizard quest that gave you points at 6 was due to the Shinwa quest counting as a quest? 1 + 1 + 2 + 6 = 10.

But yeah, I haven't noticed this since May. I'm pretty sure there were some days I got over 27 points (because unless you can do Sarah AND Saggi, that's actually 9 quest people) or over 18 when I didn't have a GA activated.

[edit] Never read through the whole thread yet, sorry about the math thing. Just saw what you said about quest 4 and quest 9. My apologies!