could we maybe add having more than five scroll sets to the battle stuff wishlist? maybe do it up as an sp sink or something, idc I just need more sets D:

Do you mean the genetech created scrolls (aka Spacial Abyss) or the level 5 scrolls (aka Death Delusion, which you mentionned)

Because SA appears to be doing the same thing, afaik ? I don't really use the others (nor do I use SAs anymore, but I had a set with some). Unless the pet I'm using unlocks the highest tier or something ?

Whoops, yeah. Wrong name! I meant Spacial Abyss.

Spacial Abyss - no changes (Blocks 75 of all but dark and light, 5% minus heal, OPB). 18 AP though.

Pyromortar - 10 Fire, 11 Magma. Blocks 4 water/earth/ice/wind. Infinite use, 13 AP. = Deals 4 more icons, blocks 4 more icons. Still not a deal breaker.

Holy Deluge - 4 Light, 4 Water. Blocks 3 fire/earth/magma, 10% heal. Infinite use, 14 AP. = Blocks an extra 3 magma. You really went out of your way on this one.

AP costs were all lowered. Could be fun if AP costs decreased the more speed you get.

my holy deluge doesn't have magma block. must scale with something.

Jason said it scales with speed. I guess someone needs to figure out how much speed triggers that

is there any way these updates, specifically before the last one/reset can include a fixing of the challenger high score tables. They were taken down because they lagged too much because they would check every single persons battle record iirc, but other things that have done the same have been worked around, i think by using threshold values or something of the sort. I think that the HST in combination with loot after win 10 and better xp after win 10 could really breath some life into battling. Battling, in a lot of ways, thrives on competition and having a working HST could drive that, and probably cut down, at least a little, on the complaining between events/challenger releases.

Obviously I've been catching up a little on reading.

I don't like that idea. After all we have paid real money for those challengers. So we DO want to gain their XP again as well as their loot. I'm especially thinking of consumable items like books or the other stuff I've already sold, in the "know" I'll be able to get more after the reset!

and you got the loot for them, some of them twice.

When you buy a challenger, you pay for a full set of ten wins' worth of exp and loot per pet. Anything more should be seen as a bonus.

Which is why I got my 10 wins with the army on all the non-CS challengers first.

Are we getting closer to knowing when re-set will happen and if the CS challengers will be included?

how does limiting the CS loot going to benefit battling community? wouldn't this will give bad vibe that battling is expensive, elitist and exclusive to only tiny part of users?

Because the user shop price of the CS loot tanked when they did the last re-set. The last re-set wasn't very long ago (by subeta standards). If they re-set the same loot again it's will practically be worthless. They aren't going to draw all new CS challenger loot and they want the current loot, which you paid for by buying the challenger, to retain some value. If the price on CS loot gets low enough there's less incentive to buy the CS challengers and just buy uber cheap extra loot from other users instead.

That's overlooking that many people care more about the exp from the CS challengers than the loot. Which they will miss out on if there is no CS challenger re-set.

Why not just draw up new loot instead for the 5th drops on CS challengers? It gives more incentive to re-battle the CS challengers if there's new loot involved, and will allow the old loot to maybe recuperate with time.

I'd rather have book loot drops than another weapon at this point anyways.

but ultimately, all I care about is the EXP.

I second 's post, although I mostly don't mind allowing current CS loot to deflate. Echoing 's sentiment, making weapons affordable for everyone shouldn't be considered a bad thing.

There's a difference between affordable and dirt cheap. Dirt cheap is what will likely happen if the same weapons flood out from another reset. I'm all for new loot for a reset though. Don't think it will happen but I'm up for being pleasently surprised.

I agree, it's ridiculous how cheap items like P-Staff and PBBlades are. Even at their current prices they are more than accessible to most people who want to battle seriously.

Also agreed, it will give people some kind of perk for having bought the challenger when it first appeared which is nice, and will also encourage a few people to try and unlock it.

Don't know if this has been suggested, but after the reset, what if battlers who have previously beaten the challengers get new loot and the battlers who have not beaten the challengers prior to reset, get the original loot? That way there isn't a flood of the same weapons/scrolls. IDK, just a suggestion.