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Mar 27, 2015 11 years ago
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I asked Rowan to hold the solution until the next chapter is up. (; It was a simple misunderstanding.

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Do we need to count the entire herd at once, or can it be done in segments as long as it&;s completed? </p>
<p>“Segments?” Custenhin looked prying between Díse and yourself. Then he nods. Slowly, like he was a big turtle and no man. He seems to think about it. “No, you don’t need to count my sheep in one single row.” The sheepherder leans on his staff while petting the head of his mastiff. “As long as you don’t lay one of them you’re free to arrange them however you like.”

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Mar 27, 2015 11 years ago
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I didn't have one until just now, and even now it's not very elegant. Still, I think it works. ^.^

I didn't mean arranging them, I meant in terms of time. Since the time involved seems to be what is putting Custenhin to sleep, I figure if he /does/ fall asleep, then he could resume the method of the solution when he wakes again?

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Mar 27, 2015 11 years ago
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Ah, my bad. ^^ You surely may try this version by counting "in shifts".

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Mar 27, 2015 11 years ago
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That'd be great! Also, what exactly does Custenhin's dog know about the herd of sheep? (as in its general habits, his experiences with rounding them up, etc.)

Mar 28, 2015 11 years ago
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just a quick question, (sorry if my partner in crime already asked!) does the solution need to be in rp form or can we just send you our answer?

Mar 28, 2015 11 years ago
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Your partner in crime didn't asked so far. But the solution can be send in "plain". A roleplay would give an additional 1 point, but it's not mandatory.

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What exactly does Custenhin&;s dog know about the herd of sheep?</p>
<p>This is something Díse couldn&;t answer since the mastiff couldn&;t talk in a traditional or magical way. And the colossal sheepherder only mentions that &quot;he knows what he needs to know&quot; to do his job --- like any other sheep dog would. I guess you have to give him a chance to find out.

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Mar 29, 2015 11 years ago
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is late better than never for the previous chapter? And do we know of any weaknesses for the banshee?

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Mar 30, 2015 11 years ago
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Definitely better late than never, honey! I'll need to substract 1 point for overrun deadlines, but you'll still have the chance to score 3 points --- whilst don't submit anything means 0 for sure. (;

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Do we know of any weaknesses for the banshee? </p>
<p>Banshees are known to be creatures of the night and twilight, so luminance of any kind might be helpful. You also remember that they often reside next to flowing water. So... fire, as the elementary counterpart, might work too? Maybe a combination of both. The most important thing now is to protect your ears from her &quot;scream&quot; so you won&;t loose your senses and get paralyzed.

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Apr 1, 2015 11 years ago
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Ready for you, dear!

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Apr 1, 2015 11 years ago
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Chapter 10 – Interim Report

Since you asked for it here are the solutions from all users who gave their consent to publish: [li] smear coloured marks on the sheep's coats or sheering them while using notes to keep tally [li] "Yan tan tethera" [li] dyeing a patch of the sheep's fur a color specific to that day (since there is an infinite amount Custenhin will never be done counting so that is unavoidable but he'll be able to keep track how many he is counting every day and how many approximately he has at any given time) [li] strengthen the spiritual bond between Custenhin and his sheep with a chant so he exactly knows where they are (being able to "account" them) [li] transporting sheep to the ravine from the chapter before, one at a time (no way for them to escape) [li] user 1 dyes the sheep with green dye, user 2 uses the Mastiff to help herd the unpainted sheep

[li] http://subeta.net/forums.php/gotopost/57123857 --- not anonymous because adjuvant offered to explain her/the teams answer if there's interest 😚

I didn't list the mentioned possibilities to stay awake. If you want to have those too, just gimme a heads-up.

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Apr 1, 2015 11 years ago
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Thanks for the update! The other groups had some pretty interesting responses. Although I'm kinda curious what "Yan yan tethera" means.

Apr 1, 2015 11 years ago
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Ooh, the dye and release method is clever! I like that. The strengthening the bond is smart too.

you need to explain how you /apply/ the counting infinity to the physical objects, please.

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Apr 2, 2015 11 years ago
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I had to google it myself. xD But I like the fact that I learned something new about sheep-counting during this chapter.

Just a precautionary measure: Please bear in mind that this isn't about "justification", my dear. The list was for curious people for once. Rowan will re-post her/the teams solution. But she has no need to defend herself/the team. It's my heart-felt wish to keep this plot factual. I didn't say the solution from Orphans R Us is "right". It's just another point of view. I don't want any cat-fights about it. Creativity isn't black or white. Alright? This should be (and stay) a fun game.

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Apr 2, 2015 11 years ago
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I didn&;t say the solution from Orphans R Us is &quot;right&quot;. It&;s just another point of view.

Thanks, Blue. This is exactly how I feel! I liked reading everyone's solutions, too. I think my original version of our solution suffered from TMI, which ended up being confusing. "Counting infinity" or counting an infinite set of anything is a huge ongoing debate and has a lot of literature on it. A lot of the reasoning involved is elusive even to me, and I certainly don't want to do a dissertation for a game. :D

But here's a pretty concise version:

"For us, these were the trigger clues:

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You don’t know for sure, but strongly suppose, his herd to be infinite. So you need to find a solution making them “enumerable“.
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To us, this involved counting an "infinite set," which is a mathematical and philosophical conundrum as in the famous "Zeno's Paradoxes." While the two sides never seem to mesh, the "solutions" are to compare a set between 0 and 1, which 0 and 1 being the only two possibilities.

We thought it would make for an interesting RP to have the two sides running all over the place using their methods while Adris and Hlin yelled out 0 or 1 and then took a nap. It's was all supposed to be amusing and make for a clever entry, and that's all. :D

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Apr 2, 2015 11 years ago
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Chapter 11 – Interim Report

Many similar methods of resolution. ^^ Poor Banshee!

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Apr 2, 2015 11 years ago
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Thanks for the update. Now, please tell us about the "flying styles" of Odin's two ravens.

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Apr 2, 2015 11 years ago
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Please tell us about the &quot;flying styles&quot; of Odin&;s two ravens. </p>
<p>At first view Huginn and Muninn seems identical in stamina and strength. They are like two peas in a pod: Having those black shiny feathers, piceous beaks and unendingly ruby eyes. They even sound equal. How could you possibly determine who of them the faster flyer is? Díse uses her extrasensory perception to elicit their flying styles. She sends you an imaginary image from Odin’s messengers: One, being labeled Huginn, shows a raven that’s versatile, whilst the other one, entitled Muninn, shows a raven that’s stringy and physically fit. So one raven seems to be a sprinter and one raven seems to be better on long-distances. As if this would be of any help... It just declares that both birds are two sides of the same coin. Maybe you find a way to get a little demonstration?

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Apr 2, 2015 11 years ago
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound confrontational. I like theoretical maths and thoroughly enjoyed Rowan's answer. I just...I want to properly understand because to be frank, even that video that Rowan linked didn't completely make sense to me, and I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this.

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Apr 2, 2015 11 years ago
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I commented you about the point list, since it seems I haven't gotten any points for chapter 11 :( I did enter an RP for that one on the thread though

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Apr 4, 2015 11 years ago
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Cleared. <3

Updated time schedule, guys! Please have a look. [li] Chapter 13: 5th of April [li] Chapter 14: 07th of April [li] Chapter 15: 10th of April [li] Chapter 16: 15th of April [li] Chapter 17: 19th of April [li] Chapter 18: 22nd of April [li] Chapter 19: 25th of April [li] Chapter 20: 28th of April [li] Chapter 21: 1st of May [li] Chapter 22: 05th of May [li] (Chapter 23): 08th of May

This information will be edited in the first post too. Also keep in mind that I'll go on easter-vacation with my boyfriend and won't be back until the 11th of April. Since I won't have internet access abroad, my BFF will take care of the Chapter posting and possible help/feedback that is required here in the OOC Topic. But there won’t be any "progress reports" of your points during that period of time. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

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