To continue with the testing, we have raised the shop limit to 500,000sP.

However, the autopricer still has a limit of 250,000sP :)
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

High price limits make it harder to afford quest items! I am sick of finding the cheap goods being bought out from all the stores by greedy peoples who want over 100,000sp in their usershops! The inflation is not that bad in the stores, but the USERSTORES ARE TOO EXPENSIVE and make questing an unprofitable and miserable/anger-creating experience! WHY IS EVERYONE PRICING ABOVE THE OFFICIAL PRICES? THAT=GREED/stupid. if you want to get rich, do it the right way! Earn it yourselves by playing games and hording rares and learn how to SAVE!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Moonbeam
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i dont like any of the new limits. i'd rather it was set at 100k...200k at the most.

most of my trades get terribly undercut and i am losing sP faster than the speed of light.

items that would sit in trades and eventually sell for 400k or 500k are being tossed into user shops, cut down to 250k or less, and are ruining the economy.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Jasper
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I'm not all that pleased by this. A lot of my trades have to be canceled because of undercutting in shops. Which happens at twice the speed of light in comparison to trades. :/

I'd say make the limit 300K and leave it alone.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by BlueGreenGrey
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My two cents: Actually, I love it. I want to SELL my items, not LOOK at them. AND raising the 250k limit to 500k =

Don't worry, you'll all adjust to it eventually. Someday, you won't even know how you lived without it. Oh yeah, I remember - your items worth 500k or less just gathered dust in your trades. And you had to be ONLINE to sell them. Some of us have real lives - not me, but some of you I imagine! XD So you made selling boards in Advertising that were bumped off the front page in 2 minutes or less. And NO SPAMMING or getting your friends to bump it. You priced your trades, got undercut, then repriced, then got undercut again, then repriced your trades again, only to be undercut yet again the next day - and have to look them all up again each and every time. You got offers that were withdrawn 30 seconds later, just long enough to make you THINK you finally sold something. You had people try to tell you that you were overcharging or undercutting. You got total junk, begging offers on your items. You asked people to separate a Quest item, but they didn't answer in time. You reserved items for people who never bid, and when finally asked, they said they changed their mind or bought it elsewhere. You dealt with snarling, snippy traders who bit your head off for something that, unbeknownst to you, was their biggest pet peeve. Most people didn't want to trade your items for their items. They wanted pure sP - which you were trying to make, but your trades wouldn't sell. Oh, plus you had to be ONLINE to sell them. Some of us have real lives - not me, but some of you I imagine! XD

How could you possibly miss all that? o.O

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

500000 is way too much... As others have said 250000 is fine but 500000 is lowering the value of UB's.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by DoctorSong
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yeah don't like it people are undercutting big time.. times are going from 500k to 300k real quick :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by The_Ebil_Cookie
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I wonder when the lizard minion spray will be buyable. and the chibi potion..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by queen
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Nuuuuu. I think, as well as many others, this will cause crazy deflation in the 500-600k items, perhaps even the 700k if someone was so daring. =/ I do think 250k is a good amount, not too much but not too low.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Not really fond of it, I think 250k would be good but 500k is too much. Allows more room for undercutting.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Diana_Marie
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Collection's are a personal thing and can only be worth what you are willing to pay for them. If your collecting just to show how much you spent then you'll lose out 3/4 because nothing on subeta retires. Items are constantly reused making things less valuable. Changing the amount you can price items to save time, effort and frustration for users is always a good thing.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Shari
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I think it is a wonderful idea. I was able to purchase several things off of my wishlist. Many items in trades are way overpriced anyhow, so this is a nice way to even things out. It also helps because more items will actually HAVE a price, eliminating the rudeness of some sellers when you ask for a price. This will not make trades obsolete, you could still ask a seller to take an item instead of sps and set it up through trades. I have already done that and it worked very well. Keep, keep, keep, IMHO

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Jamileigh17
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I love it. I detest messing with trades, and so would just shove stuff in my gallery with a for trade note... and things would rarely sell, because I wouldn't waste the time advertizing them! Brilliant, thank you!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by StarGazer772
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To me it don't matter how much i gave for my collection I would never part with it because to me its the best no matter how much the items drop.. So no my collection will never be worthless to me. I hope this test stays its awsomesmiles

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Drayk
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Well then I'm guessing that item you payed 2 Mill wasn't really worth it...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

This makes buying and selling items soooooo much easier!!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by kokoMO
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Nah, collections won't be worthless =/ That's why a item a paid 50 mil for is now at 10mil and another I paid about 2mil for is now at 189K , right? So yeah, collections will and ARE becoming worthless. imho =/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by StarGazer772
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collections worthless? Never...Mine will always be worth alot to me just gives me more to add to my galleries...I think its great

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by puissance0
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argh, now it is going to be much harder to trade ITEMS instead of sp.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by loopa
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i like the idea and i hope this works. trades won't work for me since i have IE and neither will auctions, so here's hoping i can get some stuff off my wishlist now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by kokoMO
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This is a Price lowerer's dream I don't believe this is a good idea, it's going to drop items to nothing and make everyone's collections worthless :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by StarGazer772
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I hope it stays this way....I just bought 20 items off my wishlist that was unbuyable before...I'm going back to get more sps out to buy more wishlist items and Christmas presents smiles

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Extract
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wow....now I'm stunned. I love it of course and I hope this will work out. yay.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Mackenzi
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I dunno about it. I haven't experienced any petsite with such a high sP cap on the shop search, but on Subeta it is really easy to get moneys. I hear some people say stuff will deflate too quickly because of undercutters, but I think that isn't likely to happen, seeing as anything worth over 250K isn't going to be that common, and anything that is underpriced will be taken up immediately. I don't like having to look through both the shop search and the trades to check on an item's price, but I suppose that would change eventually if it was kept up long enough.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by TJPanda
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This is great for those of us like me who can't see the trades in IE7 and Foxfire . I've tried with both browsers and it don't work . IE7 gives blank pages and Foxfire gives a huge error message that takes up the entire trade page. I can't see the forums in foxfire either but I'm not complaining . I'm thankful to be able to sell items in my shop since I can't see the trades and the auctions are down . I think it's great to be able to price items in user shops for up to 500k .

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by puppy7111222
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well I'm excited! The trades will not work on my computer so now I can actually get some items
Thanks for making it higher!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Lamia_740
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I see someone said:
"and soon we won't even need trades"
I don't see that as a bad thing as trades haven't worked for IE for ... a week now? maybe a bit more or a bit less but it's very frustrating.

I just went birthday shopping for someone and got oh... probably 20 items I would normally have to go through trades to get which would mean..

  1. Searching trades (which I can't do with IE now anyway)
  2. Finding the lowest priced one of each of those 20 itmes
  3. commenting or smailing 20 different people
  4. waiting.. and waiting.... and waiting for a reply
  5. haggling with said persons... and possibly finding new sellers

    I got all of that done in under 30 minutes by being able to purchase the items direct from shops.
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by SoupDragon
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Ive got some mixed feelings about this.. I think the Auto price should be 500k if you raise the max price to 500k since its gonna be a pain in the ass for people who have a lot off stuff in their shop. And I think its sad that everything is going to deflate, but It maybe will make the economy better. The good thing is that you don't have to do everything in trades, but that was kinda fun too. Ive met a few people though trades and it is always fun talking to someone new, even if it is for a short while. But I think 250k was perfect for me personally. You guys are doing such a great job, I love it that you are trying new stuff like this. (:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rum_791
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I don't like this at all. I do not have the time nor patience to go manually checking over 100 items to actually be sure that they ARE indeed unbuyable. No, I'm not talking about new items or overly inflated lower rarity items. I could careless about those, sell them buyable all the time. I'm talking about items that HAVE a good rarity. I wouldn't be so against it, if you actually raised the autopricer to match the amount shops can sell for. Autopricer is the only reason I even bother with GAs in the first place.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Diana_Marie
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I personally think it's a good thing.
Instead of blogging down the trades with lower price trades now you can just shop search them.
It will be faster for quests (if they ever pay out good enough) to collect and delete things off wishlists. (Which mine looks like I'm collecting the world.) It's a good thing , trust me =)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Harknesss
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That is great news! I love the new limits. Thank you.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

This is great! I don't really understand why so many people are complaining. o_o; Shops are for selling, trades are for trading and that's the end of it. I see alot of "Unhhh that's what the trades are for whine" But TRADE implies item-item in my mind, not SHOP which implies selling. Sure, undercutting will happen, but it already happens on the trades so what's the big deal? I think the trades inflate prices alot in the first place, so a little deflation won't be so bad.

Plus, everyone on the trades wants pure for all their stuff. Why not just cut out the trade part? I'm sure that's what the staff is thinking and I totally support it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Cobaltbluetoo
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This has enbabled me to get a few UB's out of my vault and into my shop, and I'm happy about that. But for heaven's sakes will you please get trades working again for IE users? I think I've been patient, but this has gone on far too long! I have trades rotting and I can't do anything about them, meanwhile their value is decreasing as the days go by. PLEASE do not tell me to use Firefox, this computer has a conflict that prevents another browser from being downloaded, much less installed. If you really want to be helpful smail me and tell me how to delete the conflict!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Galexia
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I have to agree with OnceUponaThyme. Low rarity items will be inflated greatly just because they are "new" or because users can price them in their shops now for 500k. But the increase will help when doing quests and hopefully it will take undercutters longer to drag the price down. So it has it's pros and cons.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Nostalgia_507
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Oi...why are they doing this? I dont understand what this will accomplish. Trying to get some items out of the trades?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by RipfangDragon
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My opinion: I don't like it. 250K was enough of a hassel to deal with. Undercut prices and deflation is going to KILL a lot of users when they want to buy those 10-20mil items.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Giannabionda
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This will be interesting, but there is always someone who undercut too much the prices = deflation!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by menmeryiset
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I love this new change. So many of my lower price items were rotting in trades, no i can price them at a decent price and sell them without the hassle.
To whoever said that it was the autopricer that undercuts, should look again. Its mostly those who price by hand that undercut, to sell the item quickly.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rayen
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Personally I like it, items over 500k in trades, less of a hassle, less items I have to put up. Secondly with the number of items in shops if you have a large one (semi large for me) it's nice to drop the under 250k items in there so you don't have to worry about pricing them. As for the others, anything over 250k I'd hand price anyway, I wouldn't let it sell for less then that.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rabbit_Insanity
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so interesting! I had a card that would not autoprice, figured out its worth 500K. Lets hope someone buys it from me shop for that

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ciannwn
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I love the limit being back to how it was when I first joined - I never liked it being lowered to 100K.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Coppy
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this is good for me, because i can't get the trades and auctions on IE. thanks, coppy

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Personally I would love to be able to throw all my items in my shop, it would save a hell of a lot of hassle for me. I hate having to sit in the advertising forums day after day trying to sell items. Personally I couldnt care less if people undercut my items in my shop as long as they sold. With the auto pricer, I think there should be the option for users in their shops what price they want to autoprice up to, then everyones happy.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like it. Kudos to Keith for trying something new.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by StarGazer772
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I love my autopricer...I always use it and I'm happy we have it..I don't care who Undercuts me as long as the buyers thats buying from my shop find what they need smiles

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Pam
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I think this is a good thing and also since the autopricer won't change the price you can keep it what you want. I use autopricer and sometimes I don't like the way it automatically drops the price by thousands sometimes. For my higher priced items I always self price them it doesn't take that long to do it yourself.

This is a good thing!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ambition
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anyone with an y sort of a brain would realize that it is the auto pricer that causes the undercut in price anyways.
so it's really the gold accounts users fault for the heavy undercutting.
Think about it people? The principles of economics and demand and supply!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ambition
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I personally love it.
the SP is worth so little in comparative value. If there are things in the market for sale fore 50mil and up on a regular basis that's got to tell you SOMETHING!!!

I think the price should stay at 500 SP. And I think auto pricer should never work for that high a number.

why can't they just get up off their rear and just search it the point click way. It's not that hard or time consuming!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by StarGazer772
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I can see the items in the trades going between 1 and 20 mill....but the items that are 500k and under should be in the shops instead of just sitting there collecting dust and gives users some sps from selling them.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by DJ
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I don't understand the point of raising the sp limit in shops if we can't price it in autopricer. So unless I search every single one of my unbuyables in shop search, they're not going to sell because someone else priced theirs for 500,000, but I can't tell since autopricer worked. The poll for 250,000 sp had an extreme amount of people against it, but you guys raised it anyways, and now to 500k? Seriously, soon we wont even need trades since mostly everything is going to be put buyable in shops.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

awesome! thanks so much.

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