Subeta - Custom Wearable Masquerade

April 9, 2019, 8:32 pm by

I do know they are allowed in this sort of thing because that. I was more just bringing up my qualms with all the comments here asking for that ban as cw to be lifted ;)

April 9, 2019, 7:58 pm by

Now that this comment section has slowed down, I wanted to make a closing statement of sorts I'm sure some people are already sick of seeing me here lol, but this is directed more at the winners, entrants, and artists more than anything else.

To the winners of the contest, a big congratulations! Your entries are all beautiful in their individuality and technical execution, and I know I'll be using a lot of them frequently from now on. There's been a lot of backlash surrounding this contest, but I truly believe that that spawns from a vocal minority. If you can, focus on the good and all of the people who are excited and happy for your win and your items, and tune out the bad. Taking criticism is an important skill for an artist, but insults are not the same as criticism.

To the entrants who didn't win, know that your entries were all deserving of praise and were wonderful. I hope you'll hold onto them, either to submit in a later contest or to make into custom wearables! The fact is, there were so many entries and only a select few could win, so the staff did their best to pick, but that doesn't mean it was an easy decision! You all did great. <3

To artists who were too timid to enter just yet, or people who entered but didn't make it into the final voting, hone your skills and keep trying! I hope you won't give up due to this one experience or because of the response to the items in this contest. I hope that if there's a contest like this in the future, you'll be able to muster the courage to enter, be it for the first time or a second go. <3

Putting your art out there for everyone to see takes a lot of strength, and it can be incredibly hard, so mad props to everyone who did this time around. Thank you artists for participating, and bringing your unique skills to the table. :)

April 9, 2019, 12:10 pm by

I totally understand! I don't really know what reasoning staff has for not allowing facial features, but I think it works out just fine in the end. Right now it's really expensive to submit CW items to the site, so most likely if CW makers WERE allowed to submit them, we would have to charge a lot more than even a Delish eye/mouth/etc item to make our money back. That wouldn't be fun for us, and it wouldn't be fun for users/potential buyers either. So keeping them a staff-exclusive item works out for everyone. :)

April 9, 2019, 11:56 am by

I completely understand the rules and I'm not saying that the staff is just going to suddenly allow facial CWs. I'm just trying to give a little perspective on maybe WHY they don't allow facial CWs and why they shouldn't. I think maybe part of it is they do want to keep that part still nice for those users who don't get a lot of time on here or who don't have money to spend on a webgame. It's one of just a few things where the regular users are on equal ground as those with GAs or lots of CSC (although, there's still Delish which is plenty exclusive enough).

April 9, 2019, 11:47 am by

I don't think you should worry about staff suddenly allowing face item CWs, as they've said (at least to CW makers, I can't remember if they've mentioned it publicly somewhere) that facial features aren't allowed. I think it's because of this rule that they decided to allow the submission of facial features for this contest, and ended up choosing so many. It's a rare treat for CW makers to be able to submit this sort of thing.

If you (or anyone else!) are curious about what items CW makers ARE allowed to submit you can look over the Custom Clothing Create page (there's a dropbox called Type of Item) . If you have any other questions about CWs, please ask me! I love talking about the CW market and spreading good info about it.

April 9, 2019, 11:05 am by

Damn. Not a single item I voted for won.

April 9, 2019, 10:15 am by

I have to admit that while all the entries were wonderful, I don't see a single item I want to buy/wear so that will save me some tokens. Just hope that a couple of the other entries come out as CWs so I can buy and wear those.

April 9, 2019, 7:39 am by

I completely agree. It's so hard to afford any Cash Shop or CW items as is. I just don't have the money to spend on a webgame that is only pixels! I'm good with all the clothing and stuff that are CWs. There's gotta be some exclusivity in a game like this, otherwise it wouldn't be any fun. I just feel like if facial features were added to that exclusive bracket, all the nice items would be completely unattainable for normal people who have lives outside of Subeta. Nothing against those who pay for CSC or have lots of nice CWs, it's just that it would take away some of the nice things that the regular users still have who can't afford CSC or CWs.

Just my thoughts

April 9, 2019, 12:29 am by

i love all the items but there are so many face winners

April 9, 2019, 12:20 am by

Thanks for your response, I feel it's worth pointing out that one of the reasons people wanted some more winners wasn't just because of a lack of gender-neutral items, but also due to a lack of overall variety: All 5 of the facial feature items we got were eyes, and 3 of them were very similar in colour - They were all fantastic items, and I don't think anybody is upset about those items being on site. What people seem to be upset about is just that we didn't get anything else, no noses or mouths or anything, and some very similar "natural" eye colours between 3 items.

In any case, it's very disappointing to hear that there won't be any more winners for this contest. So I hope we do at least get more contests like this in the future, I feel that users don't get nearly enough opportunity to make eyes/facial features so hopefully the reaction to this contest hasn't discouraged more of them.

April 8, 2019, 6:34 pm by

Hey staff!!! I would super love to see a list of all the accepted entries with their artists/submitters credited, so that we can all appreciate the hard work that went into all the entries, and instead of just the ones that won.

I see a lot of negativity in this thread regarding CWs and the CW community, and the first way we can combat that is by crediting the awesome artists that tried their best to make Masq more fun and give the site more cool items. Maybe if some of the grumblers recognize a user or two that they know, they'll feel a little more generous about the whole affair. Plus! A lot of us are hoping to see future releases of some of the remaining items, so it would be nice to be able to be on the lookout for/encourage those artists!

Thank youuuuuu <3

April 8, 2019, 5:15 pm by

Staff picks were made after voting, and user votes still had sway on what was chosen.

April 8, 2019, 4:47 pm by

Out of curiosity, Why were items that were (apparently) already winners for being staff picks left in the voting pool? I think everything I voted for was picked by the staff anyway.

April 8, 2019, 4:26 pm by

Idk how face turned to bade. But wow that was my fail.

Also I think the body mods and all are fine as cw. To me they arent "necessities" Everyone uses faces. So everyone should have sp access to em.

April 8, 2019, 4:23 pm by

Not gonna lie, I dont mind the no eyes/mouth/nose cw policy. There is enough issue getting even the makeup I want with limited items and privates. All I can see happening is people making amazing eyes and things no one who isnt elite in the cw world will ever get.

Unless a rule is made that facial items are unlimited, It just seems like bade items of this sort need to be available to all users. Even those who dont get csc/arent able to get privates. It does suck to not have user face items made, something should happen with that as more contests...etc. like one for just lips instead of holiday theme.

I just realllly loathe the limited idea with items of that nature. Makeup/brows is one thing, but actual facial parts should be official to allow anyone to get them.

Im sure my opinion is the unpopular one, but with all the exclusivity of cws recently myself and many others arent buying as much. Nor can newbies and younger folks with out csc get the chance.

Idk. Just my thoughts. -flies away to the land of hope that cws being unlimited and not just about profit could be a thing-

April 8, 2019, 4:11 pm by

hello everyone! i'd like to address a lot of the feedback that was given here - first of all, i'd like to say that we do appreciate feedback on events in order to improve them in the future. :) so thank you for letting us know how you feel!

re: noses and mouths - while there will be no additional winners added to this particular contest pool, it is apparent that more gender neutral facial features are something you guys want to be available and we have heard you, and will keep this in mind for the future! as for this contest, however - they just weren't popular enough to have made it to the top ten.
for those worried about the Fashion Star Sticker, it's not a retired item completely exclusive to this contest, and may pop up as a prize in the future.
providing rejection feedback for this contest, even basic feedback, was not and will not be possible for contests of this nature due to low time and staff resources. with the number of submissions we received, even basic denial reasons would have taken up a large amount of time!

and, to address the inability to submit your noses, eyes, and mouths that didn't make it into the top ten - make sure you keep your files somewhere, there may be opportunities in the future to use them.

April 8, 2019, 2:27 pm by

(don't get me wrong, I own giant cat butts...I'm just not sure why altering the FACE is such a big deal)

April 8, 2019, 2:26 pm by

Can we just kill the rule about not allowing facial features as CWs?

I don't understand why this is a rule to begin with. Why is it okay to do giant cat butts with flowers sprouting out of their tails but a simple mouth is not okay? It might have made sense once upon a time when people used the base mouth/eyes/noses that are on those layers, but, uh, I don't, except for my main character's eyes that I would like to have a CW for, because while they are perfect, the fact that they are base items means that they are at risk of being "revamped".

April 8, 2019, 2:25 pm by

ohh...my little heart just broke hearing (or rather, reading) that ;_; dangit that's a silly rule if you ask me

please do continue to submit it! ;-; or let me know if they ever get rid of that rule! i will Definitely keep an eye out for it because i use the cece lip balm all the time as well! but yours was such a lovely option for more of a smile without it being one of those way too big and crazy looking ones that are all over the site ;-; ugh i don't wanna smile so big lol but thank you for letting me know! (i really did love it)

April 8, 2019, 12:47 pm by

Is it possible to see all the entries that people could vote on? I forgot which items I voted for and want to make note of them in case their creators try and re-release them as CWs.

Congrats to the winners!

April 8, 2019, 12:33 pm by

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Someone else brought up the fact that it&;s against the rules for CW&;s to replace eyes, lips, noses, etc. When is this rule going to be abolished and why was it ever a rule in the first place?

Yeah, this is a stupid fucking rule to have in place. What logic is there in that? Has it ever been made clear why CWs cannot change facial features? If you allowed it, then contests like this could have more varied results instead of everyone taking this opportunity to bypass a shit rule. And I say this as someone who does not give a shit about CWs herself, but does still care about art and those who do support CWs regardless.

April 8, 2019, 12:31 pm by

There's a couple I would loved to have seen added to the list of winners, but I can't feel disappointed over any of these, I like them all for one reason or another.

I don't even care that mine wasn't chosen, it needed some refining anyway. I'm just hoping we have another contest soon so I can try, try again.

April 8, 2019, 11:53 am by

The moon crown won, I don't care about anything else, this is my favorite item now.

April 8, 2019, 10:03 am by

In no way did I mean to imply that the situation with mouth items was unique. I do a lot of cosplay avatars for contests, for use in RPs and for my own amusement, so even though I'm this feline character 90% of the time when you see me in the forums, I make avatars in all those categories that I mentioned.

I mean, I do want male lace and frills and embellishments just as much as female, because that's my taste (you probably won't be surprised that I'm a lolita IRL, and one of those silly frillies who finds a way to work brand into work outfits and everyday as well as doing meets), but we need a much wider variety of masculine clothing for every style.

Masculine clothing for events like Vesnali often seems to be an afterthought at best--Vesnali could use a lot more dapper stuff, the only offerings for dudes seem to be pastel prep and when we get those fabulous 1950s dresses we should have the masc/butch outfits that go with them. Suits that look like suits dudes actually wear would be great. I don't think that I have ever seen anyone in the real world wear a full floral print suit who wasn't fem-presenting and those people usually wear skirts.

April 8, 2019, 9:51 am by

Congratulations to all the winners!

Really excited that the three I voted for went through, especially the gorgeous wings.

April 8, 2019, 9:12 am by

Yes, I totally agree! I feel like the artists did such an amazing job that there should be something to let them put their items on-site. I was honestly really looking forward to having at least one of those mouths.

No, you're not the only one. I have no idea what I would use it for, but it was so pretty!

April 8, 2019, 8:10 am by

I like the idea of an exception being made for the items that made it to the finals, too, for being added as CWs. That way they could still get on site but the other users would still get to keep their wins and have their items be "official". Not sure what the staff would think of that suggestion but for what it's worth it's one I support.

April 8, 2019, 7:53 am by

I can't agree more! While the winners are gorgeous, it would be really mice to have more variety, especially when it's about facial items which we can't get as CWs later... There were the ones I'd really love to get like cat nose and those lime yellow eyes withouy brows and eyelashes (sadly can't remember the name, but I really loved it and wished it could make it through) - for more gender neutral HAs, cause all of the current items are more on feminine side. Or maybe it will be possible to allow those facial items as CWs in exception?

April 8, 2019, 7:25 am by

I'm sort of sad we get 3 eye items that look the same tho :(

April 8, 2019, 6:53 am by

AAA THANK YOU!!!! I second your opinion on masculine items, I was really aiming to create a gender neutral eyes with my submission there but in the end they still ended up looking more feminine than expected ;; I still can't believe my second attempt at cw ever made on the site, and if I get around to actually take part in regular cw creation I promise to make some items to fit the dudebro aesthetics! ;D

April 8, 2019, 6:09 am by

"There really IS an extreme dearth of mouth items on this site that are suitable for avatars who are meant to be men, boys, NB people, butch women & girls, and children"

How you feel about the current mouth selection is how I feel about literally EVERY other HA item category . :') I could make fem HAs that look 10x more beautiful than my dude-bro outfits because the selection is just 1000% better. So many artists, & so many submissions.. yet how many submissions did I get to vote for that catered to my masc gay meathead preference... lol the answer is 0, sis. But, I still voted for the entries because there were some really good ones - just none that were suited for me. I totally feel your pain. lmao!

Not really in the loop or cliques, & not really sure of the CW-submission rules regarding no facial feature entries. There has to be some juicy backstory explaining this decision, right? Anyone have clarification on this rule? Perhaps staff should have voted on the 5 super-duper-elusively-exclusive (and policed?) facial-HA submissions themselves, and then allowed users to vote on the remaining 5 clothing/wearables.

"Staff is picking 5 facial items as winners by default, then choosing 4/5 winners for the remaining clothing options. The users themselves can then collectively vote on just one favorite from all submissions." gurl, WHAT? lmao.

Gratz to ! It's lovely. Well done! Also to , for the sexiest winning eyes in the lineup!

April 8, 2019, 5:41 am by

well congrats to the winners. I'm a bit sad none of my picks won :P Some of the other entries were great.

April 8, 2019, 5:14 am by

When the contest was first announced, it was clearly stated that 5 of the winners would be facial features. And saying that some of the winning entries "aren't exactly worthy" is unnecessary and considering nothing can be done about it now, seems rather malicious.

April 8, 2019, 4:24 am by

Congrats to all the winners :)

But: Am I the only one who is disappointed that the Stardust Spyglass didn't make it? I'm almost always short on CSC, but I would LOVE to see that top as a CW on site ❤

April 8, 2019, 4:15 am by

Omg my favourite won :o

Ridiculously Posh Sleeves are just perfect ___ I will use it for sure! Congratz

April 8, 2019, 3:14 am by

As great as they all are... it would be nice if once we voted on them they all made it into wardrobe from there and we were just voting for who gets what prize. It's so hard knowing what we didn't get. I mean those noses! 😳

April 8, 2019, 3:01 am by

Congratulations to the winners.

Bit disappointed only one of the ones I voted for won. Also a bit disappointed that there is so little variety in what was chosen as winners. Has nothing to do with the art of said winners - everything is great, it would just be nice to see a bit more diversity in what is being made available, instead of so many variations of the same thing.

April 8, 2019, 2:48 am by

If I show something to a lot of people, most of whom I don't even know, and ask their opinion of whether or not it should be placed in a shop for people to purchase, that's hardly the same as showing my personal sketchbook to one of my friends, and I do not feel I should expect the same response.

April 8, 2019, 2:37 am by

the difference between staff artists and this is that...this is a contest. people want to be excited about their entries. people want to be excited about winning. when you go into the comments and see negativity about something you took time to make, it hurts as an artist. frankly, it doesn't matter if people "intend" to hurt our feelings or not. when you make art purely for fun, or for a contest, it sucks to see loads of people talk about how boring or underwhelming it is. i'm sorry if this makes you feel ~~pressured to be positive~~, but this simply is not comparable to staff releasing items, as the staff is paid to release items and they are paid to take feedback into account because that is literally their job. (NOT to say they should have to put up with people being entitled or rude, i just mean that criticism on site items is simply more meaningful as it means they know what users want for future items)

is it wrong to have negative opinions? no. however, that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be mindful about who is reading their comments. it's like if you made something, showed someone, and their reaction to your face was "gee, that sucks". i don't understand why it's controversial to say that's rude or that people should maybe be a bit more thoughtful about what they post on public spaces when it comes to user generated content.

April 8, 2019, 2:34 am by

Oh lord, those staff picks.

Nothing against the artists that made them but I'm with everyone else on this; it's not fair that it's this many and some of them aren't exactly worthy in my eyes.

I see some didn't find it fair that the staff picked from the same pile of items we were voting for. It is and it isn't but I side with them, especially since the staff can't seem to pick anything that isn't from the face layer. (Although, given how many actually made it into the final draw, I suppose we all should've seen this coming. Not excusing the staff by any means, this was disappointing to see and you all should've done better when it came to your picks.)

Someone else brought up the fact that it's against the rules for CW's to replace eyes, lips, noses, etc. When is this rule going to be abolished and why was it ever a rule in the first place?

April 8, 2019, 2:27 am by

Like I said, agree to disagree.

April 8, 2019, 2:19 am by

Hey so, I'm gonna suggest something a bit wild...

Would anybody really be opposed if we got a "round 2 of winners" post?

I mean, a common consensus between many of the posts I'm seeing here is that "these items are good, but there really isn't enough variety" - especially between the facial features, all 5 of which are eyes and 3 of which are very similar in colour and shape. The clothing items that didn't win (like the rift cloak and the pumps that can be held and stuff) which seemed to be popular can, at the very least, still make it on site as CWs. But when it comes to facial features, I feel like a lot of people - myself included - were really excited to see some cool user-made content in that category, and while the stuff that got picked is good, I think a lot of us would have appreciated more of it.

So if there's even a slim possibility of seeing more than 10 of the items chosen in a kind of "follow up" announcement for winning items, would anybody complain about it? Just putting the out there.

April 8, 2019, 2:10 am by

well, it may be a difference in POV and personal experience. I don't think "constructive criticism" was anyone's intention, which is just as well, because it's not like your concrit is going to help anyone much once an entry's already been submitted. The negative comments are just plain negative.

But that doesn't make them mean or derogatory. People are allowed to not like things. It's not wrong to have negative opinions.

I don't see any intention to hurt the artists...just opinions about the items, and mostly opinions about the number of items that were eyes/eyemake.

People are salty about the stuff the staff artists produce as well, and they're also people. I've been super salty about the lack of frills this Masquerade and will continue to be.

There is a LOT of pressure on people in the news comment threads to be positive about stuff they don't like. It needs to go away. When the staff can ask for suggestions for new frizzlebits, and a commenter literally comes at them with 'what's wrong with the frizzlebits we already have? why don't you like the heart eyes frizzlebit? why are you so entitled?' there's a problem.

If someone is being intentionally hurtful, or trying to hurt someone personally, that's not okay, but nobody should have to pretend that they think everything's great when they actually don't.

April 8, 2019, 1:46 am by

0 of the stuff I voted for made it ;( SO SAD, o well better luck next time.

April 8, 2019, 1:22 am by

a bit sad NO mouth won.... I really want a greater variety of mouths

sigh

congatz to the winners only one of my three picks won - which shows how not fitting I am

April 8, 2019, 1:02 am by

Hi! I made that item! If we're ever allowed to submit facial features, I'll definitely be putting it onsite! Or I'll just submit it to every contest with a different item image until it wins. 😏 I love the cece lipbalm and use it all the time, but made this in hopes of having a more obvious smile option and more variety in my avatars. So sad, but hopefully we get more basic and gender neutral mouth options in the meantime. :(

April 8, 2019, 12:50 am by

all face items

April 8, 2019, 12:47 am by

Well at least my favorite eyes won. I really wanted that blue sleeved top for the non-face items though. Hope whoever drew that releases it the normal CW way.

April 8, 2019, 12:47 am by

what about the other eye items? Is it just mouths that aren't allowed outside contests or is it all face items?

April 8, 2019, 12:42 am by

CW releasers are not allowed to make mouths outside of contests T_T so that won't happen

every item that was not a face item (for the reason mentioned above) could potentially be released by the creator (or buyer) - for instance mine was the Found Steamwork Halo and if people want it, I will put it out. Otherwise, the items are no longer "CWs" are are already distributed, they are now Subeta items and you can already buy them in the Steamwork Menagerie shop as the News post says n_n

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