I like her. :)
While I do agree with a previous critique to do with the pose of her shoulders, I really like this revamp! I think her face has good character, and I like the way that you can see her eyebrows slightly through her hair without being all anime eyebrows.
I'm really disliking the last 3 NPC revamps I've seen. I think I'm going to take a longer hiatus now. This is just way too weird for me.
Well honestly the first thing I thought when I saw this revamp was that she looked like a man but I don't think it's the nose :O She looks more like a harpy now; it suits her. But! The eyes are not angled right which is probably why the nose is looking so prominent. Or push the nose more to the center of her eyes?
I like the nails ^^ Woot long nails! But I agree that the wing position looks a bit funny. Such drastic changes are sure to cause some kind of an uproar :O Maleria went from being a chinless baby nosed anime chick to a buff/muscular harpy. Definitely going to take some getting used to...
I liked the original more.
I agree with the artist here. All these stupid "she's a man" comments are disgusting as hell. Yeah, this may look more masculine than the original, but hello??? women come in all different forms??
ugh. why did I even come back here to read the comments?
Maleria has 2 eyes??? What???
Love the design and yay new books! :D
What did you do to her nose.
I agree with Yoshi in that the eyes are a bit off. I liked how in the older version of her she looked possessed/crazed with... malice hahaha. The nose is fine :)
Please make the nose smaller.
And for your ignorant information, I said 30-40 artists, not the entire planet
It's not opinion. It's ANATOMICALLY incorrect. I'm sorry as an artist you can't tell proportions, because those who can, are disliking it.
Also, you assume every fashionista agrees. We don't! You only know your corner, so speak from it. And people are offended by the idea that a woman appearing masculine is offensive to anyone. So what? The character was a clone of every other character on the site. Do we seriously need clones instead of characters? I really don't think so.
Just because the most vocal members - not the entirety, the world does not revolve around you- of the community have 'very specific tastes' does NOT mean every piece of art must cater to them. We do want new players too and not all of them will be part of your societal group. As for the artists on this site: you assume every artist agrees with you. We don't, so stop speaking for us. :P
Actually, I love the wings a lot. Liked the old face much better though...
So, based on all the comments I've seen so far, this is a compilation of everything I've seen and thought myself.
Her nose is not proportional and doesn't sit right on her face. It's too high up and too far to the left.
Her wings are at an angle that just doesn't look right. Avian styled wings, weather they be used for flying or not, don't bend like that.
Her shoulder is too far out, and is making her look like she's standing at a strange angle or that her shoulder joint came out of her socket.
Her side boobage is just too much. It makes her look like she has mega tits, and I would like to point out that if she did, her back wouldn't have the strength to hold her boobs AND her wings. (Actually, the first time I saw the side boob, because of her shoulders being so strangely placed, I had no idea what they were.)
The bottom of the dress is extremely thick. For a dress that's supposed to be tight fitting, it makes her look like her thighs are the biggest part of her body, OR that she's pregnant or something.
i meant stop being butt hurt on it stupid computer >_>
if she looks like a man then she looks like one it's a freaking opinion stopping butt hurt on it >_>
The artists of the game really need to realize their target audience is composed of a large handful of artists and a large handful of fashionistas that have both very specific tastes and a good eye for things being misplaced. When we note something is wrong as a collective, that is 30-40 artists noticing that something is amiss. That's probably a sign something should be fixed, especially when it has to do with anatomy. We're not simpering idiots. We know what we're talking about.
Also 1. She does look extremely masculine. You drew her like that so don't get insulted when people NOTICE that you drew her like that. 2. The proportions and pose and the placement of her nose aren't anatomically possible. The nose is too far to the left of the image and if the image was a dead on portrait it wouldn't be in the center of her face. THIS is why people are so offended by it. 3. The wings don't look broken and unusable, they look like something you'd see on a cherub. The lines are soft and cute looking. It ruins the menace supposed to be achieved here.
When people get a revamp, they expect it to at least LOOK LIKE the original. If the staff wants to release NEW npcs that look different and uncute then fine, but don't botch one already existing because your personal preference has changed. But keep in mind the game itself has a cute to elegant style in general. Making things less appealing on purpose just removes some of the attraction to the style Subeta was based off of
I really like that type of face. Not even in a reactionary hyperfeminist "you can't say bad things about womens' looks!" way, it's just instant love.
Man up, Pie. If your update was anywhere close to what she's actually supposed to look like, no one would have been insulting her.
I like it. Not everyone has to be pretty or cute, and since when did a dark goddess have to impress everyone with her kawaiiness?
I think she looks fine. ...Those nails though.. D: Whooo!
The only sorta masculine part about her seems to be nose... Might be just the pose? I doubt any of us saying that she has masculine feature(s) mean to offend anyone, that's just how some of us see it. It's not like it's a bad thing anyway and all revamps take some time getting used to. xP
Oh, never knew Maleria was a man. I feel bad for the comment but really...
Nice to see some facial diversity in the NPCS these days. I hope you can do the rest with the others!
Ya'll are assholes if you're saying she looks like a man, because Maleria can look however the hell she wants. I mean, really, do all NPCs have to be perfectly feminine and flawless for you to like them at all? Geebus. Not everybody has tiny animu noses and perfect faces, wow. I'm glad there's body type / facial feature diversity in NPCs. :x
Personally I think she's really! pretty! and is much nicer-looking now. Her birdwings look peculiar but that may just because they don't have much musculature to them (which would fit a humanoid body more), and her eyes look fine. Pose seems decent, boobage isn't freakishly huge to make sense with that pose.
also: good job on being gross, commenters, with your tasteless 'she looks like a man' comments! :D absolutely disgusting. and i really hope pie keeps it just how it is, because this is super lovely.
HNNG SHE'S GORGEOUS THANK YOU SUBETA GODS
I find it hilarious that people are basically complaining she isn't cute enough...Like. Seriously? Why does everyone have to be Kawaii-chan?
I like this revamp, but maybe make her irisless again? She seemed a bit more menacing with "no eyes"
Holy crap. Dat face. I looked at it and immediately knew that face. She's the spitting image of one of my rl friends. >->' Minus the blue skin..and stuff.. Anyways, I think she looks beautiful now. Nice revamp.
the new face looks rather masculine, but I suppose Mal can appear however SHE prefers
I honestly think Mei's critique and edit makes the most sense. The odd pose really throws some parts off, but the face looks fine to me. Reminds me of Elphaba from 'Wicked' which enters a lot of other music theatre characters and I can't help but love Maleria's new face because of that. C: Definitely a wonderful change from all of the 'normal' feminine appearance.
New body, old face. The art is amazing. The wings look spectacular (and so matted) it's perfect! But that face. I love the new eyes. I think the nose is very VERY out there. (I love large nosed people. I only date large nosed people. I'm not trying to hate.) It might just be the angle though.
Okay, so I was delighted at this revamp and came to say so. Now, however, I have more to say. Not only do I stand like her - arms squished over my breasts just like that, because I get stares now that I'm pregnant and teased throughout school even before that- I ADORE her nose. My first thought was, "Revamp? Oh thank god, she looks like Elphaba! How pretty!" Hating on girls (even imaginary ones) for their appearance is totally 2000-late, people. That jealousy shit is dead. Having preconceived ideas about how a 'lady' should behave, appear or conform is not only sexist, it sets you and every other girl up for disappointment when she looks in the mirror. Don't be so misogynistic; did all the posts online after Santa Barbara teach you guys nothing? Button noses are wonderful... but pretty rare in reality. Hawk noses - a common Roman and Celtic trait - are also wonderful. Big ol' Aztec noses shaped like triangles (whoa, what do you know, like mine!) are wonderful too! Humanity and all of our humanoid imaginings are as diverse in appearance as there are stars in space. Come back with real criticisms before you expect respect.
To all the people who comment the side line of her boob is wrong because it would give her a G cup:
I have tried this pose in the mirror just now (since i was curious) i have a D cup and my line goes about that far. my boobs are not close together but more on the left and right with quite some space in between them. If i dont wear a bra i can put about two or three fingers inbetween them.
So just saying, It is possible to have smaller boobs then G if they are a bit to the sides.
Okay, I generally just ignore things like this, but all this criticism is bothering me. I do believe in HELPFUL criticism, but people should keep in mind the wording they choose when they state what they think. In my opinion, the whole masculine thing is very uncalled for, and those that said it could have found a lot nicer way to get their point across. Also, to the users that are condemning those who did suggest a nose change, please remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I for one thought the bridge of the nose just needed more of an arch and thought it just didn't match this particular character. I am so used to her old form that the drastic change just doesn't seem right to me. That's all. I am NOT saying that no character on Subeta should ever have facial features like that just not her particularly, and if the artist doesn't want to change her than it IS TOTALLY FINE. Besides, given enough time, I'll get used to it. It just irks me to see people on both sides of this argument being so hateful, especially towards one another (I'm not referring to everyone). So, overall please be kinder and more considerate of others in their works and opinions, and in the end, it really doesn't matter. The world will keep spinning.
(Also, keep in mind that I did not type this with any intention to get a thumbs up from anyone nor any hateful responses but merely state my opinion.)
I thought her nose was big at first but after coming back a couple times (i like to read peoples opinion), it doesn't seem too bad. Looks more like a normal human nose? (not sure what i'm trying to say here) She does look a bit manly though. idk. This is just one of those things that will take time to get use to. Sooner or later people will get use to the way she looks.
I think she's sexy as hell; big nose, big boobies and all!
I think she's sexy as hell; big nose, big boobies and all!
I love her face. To the folks who are saying her big nose makes her look ugly and 'masculine', can you not? There are so many things wrong with that way of thinking and I'm going to touch a whopping total of none of them.
, don't change the nose. Draw that nose on every NPC you revamp. Make even bigger noses. Broken noses, beaked noses, hooked noses.
I do think the pose is a bit awkward, though. I had a hard time understanding the physics of her boobs -- that's what he said -- and it just... doesn't feel like a pose that should work, anatomy-wise. I dunno. Love the nose though. A+, would nose again.
I shall now hide inside my own pants. Presto!
dem angles
Actually, I retract my earlier complaint about the drastic change to her nose. She looks much better if you remove the hunched shoulder (please do!). C: I fail to see why people find her masculine.
Oh my god, she's gorgeous! I'm baffled at the amount of butthurt going on, 'cuz this redesign was really needed and I enjoy the direction the artist took with this. I love her nose and how sort of uncanny and pitiless she looks -- way more threatening than the generic 'fiesty anime girl' look she had at first. And her wings are really neat when you consider her backstory canon and how she was stripped of power -- they finally fit that detail! I'm so glad she got revamped, and I really hope more characters get that treatment soon (Quentin, omg do Quentin soon, their revamp would be so awesome!).
I totally didn't realize she had been revamped until I actually had a moment to look at the prizes and what not.
So many people commenting on how badly drawn this revamp is like did anybody even LOOK at the original?