I can't stop looking at her nose, it's so... I don't like it
i don't get the 'she looks more unique now' comments. she just looks like a blue elf now
Will SOMEONE please address the fact that she looks pregnant?!
I LOVE her new revamp, I have a largish nose myself and would never change it so wear your nose with pride Maleria. :)
I must admit though, there are beautiful people no matter what size of nose they have. I know a few people myself who have large noses and are women. They're beautiful people. It's just her pose, and such, I suppose, that make it look off a bit on her. Other than that, she has been very well drawn
Making a ton of mental notes on who to avoid. I guess a lot of Barbie-doll nose types (or people who encourage cosmetic nose jobs?) are on Subeta. Can't wait for that PYP thread. :)
How do you coverup the image??
LOVE her nose, maybe some nostrils would've looked nice but still, very nice!! The transparent hair for the eyebrow is lame though, you could have thinned out her hair to show her eyebrow. Great work though I like it!
Well, thanks to someone I have a coverup for her now. Not site-wide, which would've been nice, but at least on her quest page which is a lot better than nothing.
I think the only reason the nose looks off, to me at least, is it's the "classic anime" nose. They almost always end up looking like an afterthought or like someone just drew a black triangle on their flat face since they don't have much detailing. Though I have to say, why the transparent hair? lol The other "classic anime" art that bugs me. The old version of course has the floating eyebrows. She really seriously reminds me of some anime character. Which is funny since most are generic looking when you get past the hair.
Either way, she doesn't look bad. I kind of like her now. However, this will the only time I see her since I adblock all the NPCs.
I think this update of Maleria is quite beautiful, actually! The only thing I find slightly off is that the bridge of her nose seems a little too big? Everything else looks great! I love her eyes! Her wings look perfect too! Just the way I imagined they were meant to look! And I honestly find nothing wrong with her pose. So she is tilting her shoulders at you - it gives her attitude! Seriously, try it. Tilt your left shoulder up and your right shoulder down, and then look to the left and maybe you'll be able to imagine what I mean about attitude. It works really well for her, don't you think? Just... the nose. xD Might take some getting used to!
Definitely needed a revamp and many aspects of the art are improved. I agree with the people who say she looks broken. The angles and lines between the shoulders, the one breast, arms, and neck are the hardest to follow visually. The nose is, uh, much more prominent, as well.
I agree with the comments about her shoulder sticking out too much. It looks weird. I think that is what is really throwing me off this revamp. I do like the details in the feathers and hair, though. The nose doesn't really bother me, I like unique features like that in characters. Not everybody has a Micheal Jackson type nose.
I knew coming in here would be entertaining lol I think she looks bad ass!!!! Excellent work Pie!
I knew coming in here would be entertaining lol I think she looks bad ass!!!! Excellent work Pie!
I like the update, and the fact that she has pupils now. I thought the eyes on the old version were kind of odd without pupils, especially with the hair in the way of them. I really wish that instead of saying revamps are 'awful' or 'ugly' people would give actual constructive critisism, or at least if you're going to state your opinion do so with respect to the artist instead of throwing insults. You can have your opinions but geez, would you like it if someone called something you made ugly?
her wings were meant to be gross and unkempt and not even remotely suited to flying, if they look 'wrong' then I did my job. as for the not so borderline insulting 'she's a man' comments? tasteless.
Oh goodness... just because it's more detailed it does not mean better. Maleria looks awful right now! And am not talking about beauty (she can be an ugly goddess), but the art itself. The anatomy is wrong, the perspective is wrong, she shows no personality/is boring, the shading is bad...! She does not look menacing, she looks like she's constipated and trying to hide it. Her former self looked like a mean wicked goddess ready to do mischief and ruins someone's day for fun and "just because". Don't ruin her, please!
This is a problem that is getting more noticeable in the last months' revamps. More details is not better if the piece has no personality yet full of errors!
people complaining about a female character with a big nose lmao I love the nose (tho yeah it might look a bit better w/ if it wasn't QUITE so triangle I guess), it reminds me of Annie from Attack on Titan, as.. other people have mentioned :'D And tbh I'm really glad that Subeta is starting to move away from the ultra generic anime everyone has tiny nose and big eyes art style, the character designs have been more diverse lately I think and that's good. It is kind of jarring to have a design of such an old character changed like this tho...
the pose is bugging me a lot, I kind of wish it had been changed from the original just because something about it looks so.. awkward? I never really notice when things look off but something about this revamp is.. huh. I also do think the sideboob looks the slightest bit awkward (and this is coming from someone who is busty herself and LOVES BUSTY GIRLS, I have 0% problems w/ sexy top-heavy girls; the revamp just looks odd to me because of the way the pose is handled haha, she looks like she's only got one breast although I'm sure that wasn't the intention and.. frankly I'm not sure how to fix that without redrawing some other things :c) The wings also.. look a bit odd, though I'm not sure if they were INTENDED to be abnormal, maybe? IIII am also not really sure why her purple aura was kept looking so awkward.. it doesn't quite look like an actual aura and it's jarring with how updated the art is.
I bet it's hard to revamp such old and.... questionable site art, especially with how much people on here can get offended by the CHANGING OF THE PERSONALITY and POSE and how EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER, so I think I can get why this is mostly just purely an art update rather than character redesign... Regardless tho, the art quality is definitely loads better! I really love this artist's shading, it's super pretty, and the way her.. uh, clawhands were handled is weirdly eye-catching. It still strikes me as somewhat of a strange character design choice, but it looks pretty damn good! I like the way her dress was handled and I really love all that hair, soooo pretty. She also looks better with pupils to me hahaha, I've never been a big fan of the 'blank pure white stare' look so I'm happy to see it was changed
Much awesome! :D I quite like the strong nose. And dem feather cape items
...wait. I'm not sure if it was mentioned before, but the image link is http://img.subeta.net/maleira.gif , so there's a bit of a misspell there... as long as it's linked right everywhere it shouldn't be an issue, but yeah. Just saying ^_^;
-runs for cape and shoulder thingy-
I'm glad to see she finally got a revamp! xD Hoping Shinwa and the Oracle are coming too ^u^
Her right shoulder is off (it's way too far out and facing the wrong direction), but she has an actual nose now so I will forgive it.
That's a bird wing. She's not a bird ;)
I find the omg she's a man comments quite frankly disgusting. Noses come in different sizes and shapes. Even on .. wait for it.... women. Oh my god. The horror! As a person with a larger nose, I wonder if exaggerated comments like that are just as easily said irl. Ridiculous. I hope the nose isn't change to accommodate your sensitive eyes.
It looks great except the face looks more male than female. (Unless that is the look you were going for)
R.I.P You will be missed.

It's not the size of the nose that bothers me; it's that the rest of her is so carefully-drawn and her nose looks like a pasted-on triangle. I also kind of preferred the hair more obscuring her face. But that's just me. She does look a lot better now.
It's a man, baby!! -Austin Powers
Gosh, quite a few girls have larger noses AND are pretty. There's nothing wrong with that. My main issue is with the wings. It would be nice to have more realistically-sized and anatomically correct wings. I just find really small wings rather comical. Which works with the Angelic Dillema but not so much Maleria.
I was so excited over the new items that I didn't notice the revamp right away XD
I think Maleria's nose looks fine... It could use a little more detail/definition but it is not that bad. (I'm horrible at perspective so I'm impressed the artist did as well as they did, even if it might be a little bit off... Maybe. IDK.) Honestly the only thing that is bothering me is her lips... I have been studying different art tutorials for faces trying to figure out how to do character busts for my boys... One thing they all seem to point out is that female lips are fuller and have more color. She has thin lips, which are the same color as her face. Combined with the large nose, it does give her a more masculine look.
She looks like the kind of woman who would wear outlandish lipstick, like the purple Wolf_Spirit suggested... (I mean, look at that body-hugging orange dress.) If fuller/colored lips were added, I'd be perfectly happy. I can't speak for anyone else. LOL
She looks like a he. I do not like it. It looks effortless. Loveless. You can give an evil character more defined traits. I actually always loved this charactter and now it feels as if someone took her away. Not even kidding. Just ugly.
Her nose just has such a straight line to it. It's not that her having a big nose is wrong, it's fine--it's the way its just so straight. A very slight dip at the tip so it's still big but isn't just a straight line would make it less... Weird.
Mei's adjustments are great; the nose is better (and you can see the bump on her bridge, huzzah!). How far back her side boob goes is still weird (NOTHING WRONG with big tits), since when you look at her arm then her side boob, it creates an odd look. It just needs to be slightly further in, not even by much.
If she had always had a big nose this wouldn't bother me but just changing character's longtime appearances so they are less conventionally attractive and the site looks more progressive is annoying as hell lol
I didn't know long noses were exclusively a male trait??
I like the revamp, her face gives her a lot of personality.
The problem I have with her is the wings. I feel like the are too low on her back- its should be sprouting more from he shoulders. Also the way they are curving is not how wings work. Yeah they have a bit of a curve but lot that much.
As you can see wings are jointed much like human arms just with a stretch of skin and feather connecting the 'shoulder' and the 'wrist' and covering up the 'elbow'. I feel like if her wings were built more like this they would look far better.
At first I was not so sure what I thought of her new look, but the more I look at her the more I like it. I love that she's not overly feminine yet is still beautiful.
Mei: That fixed a lot of the angle issues. :D But the amount of side boobage throws it off again. D:
I'm a big fan of this revamp - she's got a lot more personality now, and looks a lot more menacing than before. While there are some valid comments about what could be changed for the better, a lot of the complaints seem to boil down to 'she isn't my exact definition of pretty, so she needs to be changed.' While I don't think she's unattractive as she is, (she certainly isn't warty and wrinkly like typical scary witches are) I also don't think she needs to be a super hot, sexy evil person because while yes, there are unattractive evil women in games, stories, movies, etc. it's much, MUCH more common to have super hot babes as villains, which is why people can point out so many. It's overdone, and something a little different (like a bigger nose and no lipstick) is a nice change of pace imo.
I also don't think her boobs are too big, like I've seen some people say - with her arms crossed in front of her, they are going to be pressed down against her chest, thus the little bit of sideboob. At least on the one side - her arms are crossed at an angle a bit different from her body, so only the one is affected. If they WERE some of the sizes I've seen people compare them to, they'd both be spilling out the front over her arms, which they aren't. She may look well-endowed compared to some other Subeta NPCs, but I don't think they're by any means unrealistic.
I do agree that her left eye (on the right as we're looking at her) could be moved in a little bit. My only other critiques for her would be for her neck, but it's pretty minor. Since the pose is now a bit more of a 3/4 view than the last one, the neck should be a little more forward in the front so the other shoulder isn't sticking out so dramatically.
All this aside, I really like the new Maleria!
tbh i think it's the pose that's throwing it off, if you fix the shoulders the face becomes a lot less offensive

I notice the people defending this are still stuck on the 'oh the nose sucks' comment from earlier. The main problem that's been pointed out now is that the posing and angling of it is just plain wrong. Anatomically wrong. That is a pretty bad sin when it comes to drawing characters and /should/ be pointed out. For future reference, cause we all know this ain't changing.
also, i really love the hair twirl around her finger. such a small detail, but adds a whole lot of personality to the piece.
i noticed the nose immediately and let me just say THANK YOU and please DO NOT "fix" it as there is nothing wrong with a nose like that i'm sick of seeing button noses everywhere.
I actually love the way she looks. Females don't have to look super-feminine. I'm not really fond of the side-boob and her wings, though. The wings just seem weird to me, and while the amount of detail in them is lovely, it just seems awkward compared to the rest of the art. The side-boob just seems to be in a weird position. Then again, I have small boobs, so I don't know what side-boob with gigantic boobs would look like. XD
So much negativity :c She looks so badass now. Before she was just some generic animu thing with no character or definition. Don't listen to them, Maleria, you are flawless queen.
Ugh, it's only AFTER I post that I realize I was way too modest with the highlighting. X_X Ah well, you get my point and just in case anyone says, "Well her tits aren't bigger than her hands," may I remind you how ridiculously oversized her hands are, with this: [preview=Maleria Gloves]
....Uhh.... No offense, but I have no words to describe how the re-vamp makes me feel. -_-'
....On the other hand. Love the items! <3
The nose puts me off a bit in this revamp. Angle needs a fixing as well. Overall, I don't find it too bad.
To the artist who drew this (Pie?) Pleeeaaase do NOT make her nose smaller, do not give her a small in-curve of the bridge, don't change it at all if you feel pressured. People get very mad when women are drawn without the usual "pretty girl formula" (tiny nose, full lips, large eyes). I think Maleria is beautiful and I hope these people commenting that her large nose is ugly feel really bad.