whew, today was... a LOT. apologies to everyone trying to make kumos.subeta.net your new subeta home. here's a breakdown of what happened, what caused the issues, and whatβs been resolved so far. π οΈ
this error has been popping up for weeks due to two reasons:
when moved, the system couldnβt properly transfer your session, which caused you to either:
β fix: sessions now transfer properly between servers. this issue should be gone!
kumos scaling has been more complex than legacy due to its architecture. for legacy, adding more "web" servers was straightforward, but kumos (built on laravel) requires more coordination. laravelβs complexity allows for cool features (e.g., fast quests) but makes scaling harder.
today, after pushing quest-related code, the kumos servers crashed entirely. i had to switch kumos into "single server" mode to investigate the problem.
β fix: kumos can now deploy code and handle traffic across multiple servers again.
livewire (https://livewire.laravel.com/) powers instant interactions like the shoutbox and new smail pages. the sidebar and its manager also rely on it.
recently, iβve been using a new method called livewire volt, which fits my usual coding style but isnβt mature enough for a project as big as subeta.
over the past few months, iβve realized volt isnβt ready for prime time. iβm in the process of rewriting all volt-based code back to standard livewire.
β fix: livewire volt code causing issues has been rewritten. more rewrites are ongoing.
β fix: iβve updated our configurations to block the most aggressive bots. unfortunately, this is an ongoing battle, and there's always a risk of accidentally blocking real users. π
all of these issues happened today. hereβs what i worked on:
just a reminder: iβm the only programmer on subeta. while iβd love to focus on fun updates like avatar contests and quests, a lot of my time gets eaten up by invisible (and sometimes very visible) issues that keep the site running. iβm working hard to balance everything and make progress on the exciting stuff too. π
thanks for your patience as i work through these challenges. π i promise, the fun stuff is coming! π
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very nervous a ping will break it all lol π
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I have noticed kumos has been kinda slow lately, so hopefully this helps! thanks for the update
Thank you for the update!
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Did not break it, at least, so far. sorry you're having such a time
thanks for keeping us in the loop!
Yup, I've had to really reduce the number of web servers we could run because of some of these issues, now that we can spin up a few more I can focus on actually reducing some of the queries / things that are making it slow!
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i was just reading about how claudebot (and others, but i've heard claude is particularly aggressive as of late and ignores all instructions & requests to stop scraping) are causing problems across the web like this π sorry to hear it's hitting subeta, i know it's tough to manage. thank you for keeping us updated!
After ruthlessly pruning my "public" outfits to under 50, I could finally enter the contests I'd previously been unable to. So, I have determined that it does only 50 of the outfits and then stops - it says it's going on to do more, but it doesn't - and it keeps thinking there's more outfits to do, so it never shows you the ones it already has analyzed so you can pick one. Also it seems to go oldest-first which is the reverse of what it should be doing.
I made most of my previous contest entries "unlisted" because that allows them to still be in contests by linking...
It's incredibly frustrating, and these tools have grown in power over the last few months. Now they'll "browse the internet" for you, which means you can build apps that do things like "Log in to Subeta and navigate the forums" if you're trying to build a bot that can scrape 20 years worth of forum posts for your AI slop machine π‘
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I'll just pretend I understood all that technical talk and will smile and nod. Thanks for the update
thanks for the update, and of course, for all of your hard work!!
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Thank you for all your hard work, Keith! The bots especially are so tiresome.
Thank you for the info. :)
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Thanks for the update! All your hard work is GREATLY appreciated!
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