[edit] this is still occurring as of 2022 if you do a blue building quest fifth, you lose the quest point
you're supposed to get a quest point for every five quests that you do, except for, apparently, blue building quests (because it doesn't have a quest shop?). but that leads to some shenanigans:
if you do a blue building quest during quests 1-4 (or even do four blue building quests in a row), and then do a regular quest (ex, pete's), you get the quest point.
if you do a blue building quest for your fifth quest, you don't get a quest point -- and you won't get a quest point until you finish another five quests. ex; you do four library quests and then one blue building quest (five quests) and you won't get a quest point until you do five more library quests (ten quests overall).
i know the easy answer is "do blue building quests last/by themselves," but could it be adjusted so that if you screw up and do a blue building quest when you're supposed to get a quest point, you get your quest point on the next non-blue building quest you do?
Doesn't it work out the same though?
So like if you did 4 wiz quests and then one blue building, you'd miss that one. Then you'd do 4 blue building and then start back on wiz quests and get a point on the 5th wiz quest. And then do the rest of your quests and get 1 or 2 more depending on whether you have a GA or not. So that is 3 total with GA and 2 without.
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it works out the same if you do all your blue building quests in a row like you said, since you just eat the loss of one point and then gain one right after, but that requires you to do all the blue building quests at once?
but there's nothing that forces you to do all four remaining blue building quests in a row, so you could screw up and do a blue building quest as your fifth quest more than once (and i have done this before and likely will forget and do so again in the future, because... i am dumb)
basically i'm wondering if it can be idiot-proofed x)
I see what you are saying but I think this is more of a suggestion and not a bug since normally I don't think this happens a lot. I am going to move this over. Just a reminder that we are working with a skeleton crew so this might not get an immediate change.
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fair enough, thank you! i know it's not a huge deal, the quest-a-thon just got me thinking about it :D
It might just be a weird notice thing - have you checked on your QP totals? I ask because during Quest-a-Thon I did Blue + Shinwa + Sarah at the same time and I always got my max points per day on QP. I'd get a point whenever I hit 5 total quests from a regular quest giver (or combo thereof) regardless of what I did with Blue. So I'd have 2 new QP at the end of doing Shinwa + Blue (because I'd do the 5 for Shinwa + 5 for Sarah during that time).
i did try 4 regular quests / 1 blue building quest again the next day after i realized it (seems to) eat the quest point, and iirc i wasn't awarded the point when i did a blue building quest as my fifth quest (quest point total on the currency page didn't go up).
That's funky and annoying, I'm sorry =/ Hopefully they can sort out what's going on there for you. Love your HA by the way!
tried it again to make sure i wasn't misremembering, and nope, no quest point! blue building quests just don't give them out; i think someone mentioned that in the quest-a-thon news post comments, too, so i guess that's how it's always been. it's not a huge problem though, so i don't mind waiting ;0 much rather have some wardrobe fixes over this, haha
& thank you! i'm ready for pirate time hehe >:)
I'm not having a quest point problem.
I haven't seen the OP describe what happens if they do five BB quests in succession. I don't think that QPs fold over from one quest grantor to another, nor have they ever done this. Each quest gives you one fifth of a quest point for that quest grantor only and these (should) get saved. So if you're switching from quest to quest you won't get the quest points when you think you should from either quest grantor unless you are keeping careful track of all of them and are good at adding up all your fractions.
Every 5 quests (from any combination of quest givers) gives you one quest point. The Blue Building doesn't give quest points (anymore? I could've sworn it used to but I haven't done them regularly in a long time) so every 5 you do outside of BB should award a quest point on the 5th.
I'm not really seeing an issue...the BB quests basically get skipped in the count of 5 because they don't award points so if you do 3 other quests, then BB, then 2 more, you'll have done 6 quests for that point because BB doesn't count. I haven't had any issues with points not getting awarded because of that since BB just...doesn't contribute to the "5 quests for a quest point" total
i already said this is only a problem if you screw up and do your quests weirdly
i kind of doubt each quester is coded to reward quest points individually? if you do 15 quests from the wizard one day, and get the quest points on the 5th/10th/15th, you can absolutely force him to reward the point on quest 2/7/12 if you do enough of pete’s quests first or whatever.
they do count if you do your quests that way! if you do four blue building quests and then a carl's quest, you get a quest point, or if you do a blue building quest and then two wizard quests and two sarah's quests, you'll get a quest point. blue building quests will only cause problems if you do them fifth!
(which is why this is a very specific, very silly, easily avoidable problem, and why i'm not going to argue if it gets shot down as "this will not be changed")
Okay, I see what you're saying now. I did all kinds of weird quest configurations during Quest-a-thon and I don't think I managed to run into this (or didn't count correctly or something)
Wrong. Quest Points pool are shared between questers
Source: Was always on the thin line between Saggi and Sarah during Quest-a-Thon, so I didn't do all my Saggi or Sarah in a row.
Sorry for the ping, but you're 100% correct on how quest points work :D
Dang, I was hoping it was just registering weird and you were still getting them =/ I am not sure why it isn't working that way for you but it definitely did for me (I'd do Sarah, Blue, whoever Shinwa sent me to in that order 1 at a time and get a point on the third round for Sarah etc just bouncing back and forth).
Hopefully they can sort out what was happening for you :(
well if you're doing sarah's quest or whoever shinwa sent you to as the fifth quest you do, you won't run into the problem :0 it's specifically doing blue building quests as the fifth quest that's the issue, and it's technically working as intended (since blue building quests don't give out quest points) so there's nothing to sort out! it's just something for me to complain about x)
Blue should've been my 5th on the second round of quests because I'd turn in Sarah, then Blue, then the Shinwa one, then repeat the order. But I wouldn't get the QP until I hit Sarah a third time because that was technically 5 quests from QP givers.
So basically what I'm hearing from this is that I've been missing out on a QP by doing all Blue Building quests in a row, and as long as a BB quest is not the fifth of any set, I will get an additional quest point for doing them. Is that correct?
If so, then this should be fixed to either absolutely exclude or absolutely include BB quests in quest points. Otherwise it feels like a kind of loophole that people not in the know would miss out on. That may just be one extra QP a day, but assuming you do all your quests each day, that's 365 extra QPs a year, and that's not insignificant.
wait, so you're saying you do sarah - blue - shinwa - sarah - blue (5) shinwa - sarah - blue - shinwa - sarah (10) and by the end of that, you get two quest points?
because i haven't looked for that, and that would be really weird if that's how it went :0
yes, that is what I mean sort of. I'm not getting the point on blue though:
sarah - blue - shinwa (no point) sarah - blue - shinwa (no point) sarah - blue - shinwa (point on sarah) at this point I've done 6 quests for QP givers and gotten my QP on the 5th quest for a QP giver, the blue quests don't count at all in any total
then I do: sarah - blue - shinwa (no point) sarah - blue - shinwa (point on shinwa) blue and shinwa are then done, I've done 10 total QP giver quests and gotten 2 points total, and 5 blue quests which did not award points nor did they count into my point totals at all