there is a bluray collection called twin peaks and it has the movie + the missing pieces though admittedly I watched it from a friend's source :X I wonder if there's a dvd with it on, the David Lynch collection I have just has the movie version D: for shame

the missing pieces are so vital, I understand they needed to cut down for theatrical release but wow, it felt like a different movie with 90 minutes of footage xD

Jeffries was one of the best parts of the footage if not the best :D

I didn't even really consider it was him because of how he acted and how he cooperated with everyone. When he killed Jacques in the hospital, I was like REVENGE for his daughter and made me suspect him even less. D: Then when it was him I was freaking mortified. Completely flabbergasted and shocked. D: I only got it was him literally just before they showed his reflection in the mirror aka when his wife came crashing to the floor shouting his name and he was standing over there all nonchalant about it, it dawned on me. Beautiful execution of the killer. I think it being Leland covered the bulk of the horror of the show imo. :X

I felt so bad for Laura. D: I agree with the person who said she wanted to die and allowed herself to be killed (which was better than being possessed by Bob so I don't blame her.)

I like how the whole thing can be taken as a big metaphor for the "evil that men do" but at the same time allowing for a supernatural angle (I'm guessing the supernatural bit is gonna be amplified even more in the new series).

also, I have to give it up for the scene where Leo gets out of his wheelchair and goes after Shelly, it was unintentionally hilarious like here's a guy who was pronounced too medically screwed up to be prosecuted by the judge and doctors who then gets up and does all these complex cognitive functions like pushing a wheelchair at Shelly at the exact moment and she's like OMG I CANNOT GET OUT OF MY HOUSE EVEN WHEN SOME OF THE WALLS ARE ONLY COVERED IN FLIMSY PLASTIC. yeah, comedic gold imo or maybe I'm just trash to think that bit was supposed to be funny

Kyle MacLachlan said he felt like Cooper was a grown up version of Jeffrey from Blue Velvet and after seeing that I can see how that movie inspired Twin Peaks. Wouldn't be surprised if somehow the ending for Twin Peaks would be like the one in Blue Velvet except I'd be kind of miffed ngl. I like the way his movies end but Twin Peaks feels like a series so I don't want that sort of ending. It would feel like a cop out. :l

IS HE IN FARGO? REALLY? I've only seen one episode of Fargo (season one). I think I have to give the season he's in a watch. ;3; did you know he applied to play the sheriff and Lynch was like you got the part of Leland and Ray was like who dat? and had to go back to the script and said oh it's the guy that cries and cries in each scene .. okay. And he thought he could do it bc he had a young daughter at the time. Then when Lynch said it was him he was like ...... oh fffffs and initially felt uneasy about it. Poor thing. xD

I wanted to be like DONNA DON'T YOU GET IT THIS DIARY DOESN'T HAVE THE KILLER HE CAN EVEN READ IT TO YOU YOU THINK AN AGORAPHOBIC MAN WOULD KILL HER UGH

lol I hear you. I didn't like Josie either. Or Windom Earle. Or Annie. Should have always been Audrey. I kept hoping Dale and Audrey would have ended up together in later seasons. They had good chemistry. ;3; what did he see in Annie ugh

Probs gonna look into the diary though I think the twin peaks wiki page for Laura goes into detail about her early life (noo Troy nooo why?? border patrol?? T__T and here I thought fwwm was bad, Laura was beyond the point of gone by that point)

or was that just Laura's doppelganger saying her arms bend back? or was that Laura who feels like she's gone past redemption and therefore dressed in black??

I like all the riddles of the red room and the giant. (like what does the owls are not what they seem mean? or where we're from the birds sing a pretty song and there's always music in the air?) birds sing a pretty song = nature ; music in the air = is it electricity? waves that carry music aka wire lines ?? I remotely remember fwwm containing more references to electricity so it makes me think of wires being a conduit for the demons??

and the owls bit seems like it's self-explanatory due to actual owls appearing when Bob exits from Leland buuuuuut I could have sworn the giant or someone else said - the owls are in the roadhouse - shortly before Maddy gets killed, so are the owls = key players of the town??

Rosenfield was super funny too. "Any relation to the dwarf?" :"D and when Harry wanted to punch him a second time he was like I love you man. Yeah, he's one of my favs for sure.

you know, I don't remember having that happen to Josie, haven't gotten to that yet in season 2 and my memory is crap ;3; will comment once I get to it!

Once you see Blue Velvet you'll be like oh wow that opening montage for each twin peaks episode wow it has that one thing hmm the intrigueeee ... which I don't want to spoil for you. :x

ending: Dale wakes up. Diane is like you okay, my husband? Dale is like yeah, I'm totally fine Diane but I had the strangest dream. /pans out to some weird twin peaks esque thing THE END

watch everyone is like fhsjgjkhgjkhdkkjdhjjhgkdjk NO NO NO NO NO xD would be pretty funny but I know I'd be screaming no lol

lmao Leland like role for Ray, poor man is so typecast isn't he? xD

bright light.. you know what .. you should just watch Blue Velvet like today for reals /cries ;3;

I liked fwwm's ending where Laura sees the angel bc I'm like ooh she's been forgiven (by herself really?), this has a happy ending and I don't need a season 3!! so that's my unofficial take on the movie haha. X)

ooh wow, season 3 red room shows hella more weird, GREAT and Leland is back and says he needs to find her? aw I feel like the time continuity is wacked though like where Annie appeared to Laura and said the good Dale is in the lodge, write it in your diary. It's all a time loop maybe. ;3; and Leland is like find Laura = find the killer aka put Laura to rest. I mean what if his original dream where he was older by 25 years is basically a time jump so he needed to be stuck in the black lodge to hear Laura tell him her father killed her. Lynch seemed to have said the time jump was important plot wise which makes me think it's some sort of time loop thing.

haha yeah I mean the arm aka the dwarf / MAFP said that where WE'RE from so I don't think the music = white lodge thing is right bc the MAFP is evil right? he's in the red room / waiting room but he's evil since the one armed man said he cut it off to get rid of the evil within? so is the doppelganger of the little man good then but then why isn't it so? D: how can evil's opposite be evil? haha this is so wacked, I love it

I feel like trees are important we had the waving trees in twin peaks series then the evolution of the arm into a tree and Laura's weird gesturing in the red room is actually a sign for tree too then you have this whole lumber / lumberjack theme where really that's just cut down trees and the log lady was like my log talks to me ?? her husband's form ?? I feel like trees are BIG but idk in exactly what way xD

yeah, like radio waves carrying the music I figured out why that riddle distresses me... you got the natural bit from the birds sing a pretty song but then you got this unnatural / manmade thing from and there's always music in the air (assuming the birds' songs don't make music but we're talking actual music) and the two juxtapose against each other where you're like natural and artificial are one

yes, I have thought too much into these things lmao

so glad he did his scenes too! and the log lady! it's a shame Bob is gone D:

also, if you watch something by Lynch, also be sure to catch Lost Highway - Lynch has admitted it's part of the same universe as twin peaks :0 and there's this really, really creepy dude akin to Bob / one-armed man but visually more menacing, the dialogue between him and the main character, Bill Pullman, is chilling, definitely worth watching! fun fact: guy who plays this menacing dude actually supposedly killed his wife irl and was tried for it (the movie is about a guy played by Bill Pullman who gets framed for killing his wife) and I see from the actor list for s3 of twin peaks, they got one of the actors from lost highway, interesting to see what character he will play (balthazar getty)

And I'll watch Blue Velvet since there are apparently connections :D I can stream it on Amazon Prime (which I had to get to watch season 3, sigh) so hopefully I can get to it tomorrow! Lost Highway isn't included in prime, but I can probably torrent it like I did Eraserhead :P

And yeah, MFAP is evil I guess. And his doppelganger is eviller, I suppose. I don't understand it lol. The explanation I've read is that Bob was cheating him out of his garmonbozia and so he decided to help Dale stop Bob. Also in S3 it's like Bob/evil!Dale is sort of breaking the rules by refusing to go back into the Black Lodge when his time in the real world is up, so Armtree (what I call the Evolution of the Arm/his tree form lol) tries to get good!Dale out. But the Armtree's doppelganger tries to stop him. So somehow the doppelgangers are more evil, not good.

I love the log. As a kid, the Log Lady was my fav character because I could totally relate to her, because I always got attached to inanimate objects :P Still do, actually, hence the balloon obsession.

I recently found out the guy who plays Pete died under mysterious circumstances irl (which isn't new news by any chance bc it was in the 90s but still D: /flails around) now every time I see him on screen, I remember that and it just makes everything he does a bit stranger

lmk what you think! I think you'll be surprised by one or two things in that movie and connection with twin peaks C:

wait, so evil Dale has a time limit imposed on him? hmm that's strange? so I guess the armtree thing was kind of ambiguous due to siding with Cooper :0

I'd like to know where Gerard aka the man who supposedly saw the face of God and repented fits into all this bc I thought he was good and the arm/future tree thing was bad

I swear the more I think about the possible endings for twin peaks the more I'm terrified, I can't see this ending well or ending with much sense ;;

lol is there a beef coming on?? is that you throwing shade on all that is sacred in Hollywood aka Christopher Nolan?? ? ??? ? :P

I'm assuming the time limit is in 25 year cycles (since Laura told Dale "I'll see you in 25 years"), and every 25 years the planets or whatever it is aligns that lets people cross between the Lodges and the real world. So evil!Dale escaped with Bob in him, and he's had free rein to roam Earth and cause trouble, because good!Dale can't get out. But now the alignment is happening again, and people can cross back and forth again for a short time. Evil!Dale is supposed to come back to the Lodge, but he's refusing to do it.

And it's established in season 3 that only one version of a person is supposed to be on Earth at a time. So for good!Dale to come out, evil!Dale has to go back in. Armtree opens a doorway to let good!Dale out into Dale's body, which I guess would force evil!Dale back to the Lodge. But Evil!Armtree interferes so it doesn't work. Good!Dale almost makes it back into the body a second time, but there's more trickery (which would be a huge spoiler so I'm not going into detail :P) so right now basically there's two Dales wandering around in the real world, and one of them has to die.

Gerard is trying to help good!Dale a lot in season 3, so I think he is good. I guess Mike possessed him like Bob possessed Leland, but Gerard managed to get Mike out of him (by cutting off his arm I guess).

As for the ending, I'm just afraid it's going to end up like the original series did, with nothing really resolved. Lynch claims there won't be any more after these 18 eps, although I don't know if he'll stick to that since I think it's doing really well right now?

And nooo not shade, I meant don't get me started obsessing and trying to figure those movies out, lol XD I love Inception (although I don't understand it). Interstellar went on a little too long for me, but I've been obsessed with tesseracts since I was a kid, so I loved that element of it (and TARS omg).

I think you're totally right regarding 25 years and them being cycles!! :0 Very smart! With what sounds like the book being UFO heavy, I wonder if the spirits and the lodge things are aliens or err from another planet. I read that were season 3 to continue at the time it did, Dale was supposed to be rescued from the lodge in the first episode (lmao the irony) and it was all supposed to be about a counter-earth / parallel earth which is causing these spirits to cross over. Would have been fun and made sense and if the return series doesn't do anything remotely logical like that I will just assume it never took place lalalala. X) lol

It makes me think of Leland.... did he have that happen? like we saw his doppelganger and good Leland is stuck somewhere? I feel like it's suggested Bob can terrorize even without a host (like when he appeared to Leland's wife or Maddy or after Josie up and died - oh I finally got around to that episode and you're right about being weirded out .. it looked like Josie became stuck in the lodge or red room .. I feel like her body being only 65 lbs is significant .. she looked like she would be 110 lbs so if they only theoretically found almost half of her mass, does it mean her other half or her double or true self or whatever is in the lodge?). Anyway, back to Bob, it just amazes me how he's like sentient and seems to be everywhere even without a physical body.

If good Dale dies, I won't be able to handle it lol. NOT DALE. ;3; also ty for not going into detail, I like this general nothing too detailed s3 spoilers from you! C:

Yay for Gerard being good.

The ratings seem to be abysmal in comparison to the 90s ratings even during season 2 (but ofc this is showtime not public tv so I guess it's going to be different). I read Mark Frost said season 4 is a maybe depending on ratings which makes me really like NO NO NO we do not need another baiting cliffhanger just to get season 4 out like we had for seasons 1 and 2 because see where that left us? I'd rather the return just be one season if it means wrapping it all up nicely (which if judging by Lynch directing every episode and co-writing everything is unlikely to happen). I also read Lynch said it doesn't matter which order you watch the return and I'm like you did not just say that. Please say no. xD

The thing with Nolan is while he does these twists and mindfucks like Lynch there's a whole lot more exposition and explaining in Nolan's movies which I feel explains the movies well enough for them to lose the ambiguity found in Lynch's. Is it the ending for Inception which is confusing? Interstellar was my obsession, man. 8D It went by really fast for me. ;3; I've seen it so many times I can probably quote the entire movie for you. xD Not that excited for Dunkirk this year but hey, maybe I will change my mind. :X

And yeah, for Inception it's mostly the ending, because everything is identical to Dom's memory of the last time he saw his kids, like they haven't grown at all. So I'm afraid it's all a dream, but I'm not sure. And if it is, and Mal was right all along, does that mean he's killed his kids' mother for real? I also know that I'm not getting a lot of the logic/details of it, but I've only watched it twice (once back in theaters and once around Christmas after I got the DVD on Black Friday) so I probably need to see it a billion more times :P I do get the limbo thing though, because it actually fits really well with concepts in H.P. Lovecraft's Dream Cycle stories, which I adore :D I'm absorbing the ideas of limbo and the totems into an HPL crossover fic... so yeah, I totally steal things for fanfics :P

annnnd that had nothing to do with Twin Peaks, sorry. Although yeah if TP is all Dale's dream, then maybe someone did an inception on him lol