Sorry, if this has been brought up before, but how on earth can a battle opponent that has a stat average of 3,850 be considered a t9? If my pet had stats like that, it would be t12 easy!

This is probably going to sound like a rant, but I really don't mean it like that. I truly don't see how any reasonable person would consider an opponent with 8000 HP and 4000 defense to be beatable with a t9 pet. Seriously, how does subeta come up with these rankings?

I'm not blowing the CSC to unlock any more of these until I can check the stats first.

The tiers assigned to challengers are the recommended tier for your pet to be before fighting them. Otherwise, opponents do not have tiers assigned to them like your pets do. It is very rare for an opponent to have the same stats as the pets that are intended to beat them. They almost always have better stats than you.

Just to think that although opponents have an advantage over you in that they have better stats, you have an advantage over them in that you know their weaponry better than they know yours and thus it makes it easier for you to counter their weapons than for them to counter yours.

I can understand that to a point, but in this case, the opponent has stat advantages that are much higher than they should be to account for that. A tier 9 pet has average stats of 1350-1599, but this thing has a stat average of 3850. Doesn't that seem a bit much to you? 1600HP against 8000? even in an evenly matched war of attrition, I'm going run out of HP before he does.

It is very much possible to hurt him for more than he hurts you with the right weapons. It is more about trying to tip the dealt damage to your favor as much as possible. Challengers are not always as scary as their stats make them out to be. For example, Felibot and Ice King are easier than their stats suggest. Just to think that Saggi has higher HP and attack than Forj's impossible difficulty form, but Forj is WAY harder than Saggi is.

HP in an opponent doesn't matter as much as you think it does. Yeah, it can look scary, but honestly, what's more important is how hard he hits. Staff has mentioned before that the best way to figure out where an opponent lies is to look at the speed. If it's pretty close to your pet's speed, it is more then likely designed for your pet's Tier.

Dunno. I lasted 5 turns one time, and 3 turns another, and I don't think I brought him down even 25%. So, this turns out to be a guess game as to what weapons are the 'correct' weapons? I've got t7 and t8 weapons, but obviously, not the right ones.

A tier 9 pet can take on someone like Saggitarius (with a bit effort!) who has 10k HP and 5k strength. I wouldn't say it's the case of having the 'right' weapons here. There are things that are better than others, of course, but you don't really need a specific set of weapons to win. What are you using at the moment?

I know at least one person that beat him with stats in the 1500's, though he didn't say what he used. As always, if you're attacking an opponent with an evenly matched pet, you're going to have to use strategy to figure out how to win. If you want to win without trying to figure out the best weapons or a strategy, train a little and try again later.

I just beat him with lsaac and Mourne, who are both Tier 9, rather handily. Have you tried a Reborn Icewand of Doom? Freezing him, blasting weapons, and healing scrolls can really make a difference as well.

What are you using against the Slaughtersaurus? My neutered tier-8, Kilroy, has managed 4 wins at the moment, and I've come quite close to the 5th win only to be murdered with extinction or a crit with around 1400 health left to it. If you have a substandard set, then you're looking for a lot of pain - aim to freeze and remove his ability to freeze you in return as often as possible.

Actually I have the same question... My pet is in tier 10 (lower end, but still), and comparing Slaughtersaurus to other opponents I don't think I have any chance to beat him. Are really weapons my only problem? If yes, what is considered "good" weapons, if you not count those that drop from far more harder opponents? (Sorry, I don't understand the logic "Oh, it is fully possible to beat the {really hard opponent} if you have this weapon that drops from {much harder opponent} - if I was able to beat the latter to get a weapon, I woudn't have troubles with easier opponents).

might not be too shabby against him. Keep in mind that this does take up the healer slot, so you cannot equip it with something like reborn icewand of doom or Prodigy staff. However, its icons are pretty good, it has a 7% heal, and its defenses match up with his icon types pretty well. If you are going for bigger bucks, I kind of like the idea of against him.

If you are lucky with your STS/RV timing, you might just get him to only kill himself with his extinction rather than both of you.

Thank you for your answer! I am not using any of the weapons you mentioned, so that probably means my whole set needs to be replaced. Probably the best idea for a casual like me would be to skip this oponent and stick to easier ones. I think my limit for now are "very hard" oponents like Wyrmgear.

You cant really use the logic that you should have the same stats to beat said opponent as no one would ever beat prodigy as he's combined stats are double the cap, so your logic is pretty flawed xD

Battling is all about progressing so keep training and upgrading and it won't be long till you can take it down.

I kind of agree with this though, because my nearly Tier 11 pet was wiped out by Extinction something like 21 times in 10 wins. The problem I had was I couldn't do enough damage to him before he ran out of weapons and Extinction was his only option left, and I died over and over again when he had less than 25% health. It was very, very frustrating. I think he needs to have more in his bag before Extinction is the only thing left, and it's triggered simply because you've taken so long to knock down his health and there's nothing left for him to hit you with.

Because a tier 9 with the right weapons should be able to beat him.

I've survived his Extinction in several battles by using a full blocker at the right time, and he was still trying to kill me with other stuff, so I don't really understand what you mean by "only thing left". I've even had him use 2 at once on me. xD

certainly there are times when he uses it early in a fight, but it's pretty much a certain guarantee if you fight him for many rounds because he cycles through most of his weapons, several of which are OPB. In the case of a pet like mine, who can't get big enough hits, and fights him for many rounds, he is often only 'left' with Extinction. So even though it's supposed to be a 'rare occurrence,' it's pretty much a certainty if it takes you long enough to get his health down. Sorry I didn't explain that well XD

The only problem I see here it's that you must not be using the right weapons and strategy. My pet can beat (with a bit of luck on my side) Recycle Beast that has so much more stats and that his weapons does so much more icons then the ones my pet have. Don't most time games opponents are 'stronger' then you stats wise and you still can beat them without too much troubles..

Easy, Medium and most Hard opponents don't need much strategies and specific weapons to be beaten pretty fast when you train... But Very Hard, Extremely Hard and Impossible ones need study, loads of sP for weapons and luck to get the right time when you heal, defense and attack. And I mean that when you are in the zone to beat the opponents, of course a T1 couldn't beat an very hard one...

btw this is coming from a T7 battler that started in this world last January, and I'm in very hard opponents now... Learn the opponents and weapons and choose the best one for the task is a must for the hardest ones.

Currentl, I'm using Frostbite Amulet, Double Chakrams, Phoenix Quill, Massaquerade, and Pirite Cutlass. These are likely not the correct damage or defense type based on my experience.

I don't have these weapons, but I'll look into getting them. The price will likely stop me, as these weapons are rather pricy. Thanks for the input.

A full blocker, such as ... ?

Rainbow Vortex or Shinwas Temple Shard, more then likely. They block all damage.

If you're in the proper tier to beat an opponent, that doesn't necessarily mean that you can just waltz in with your standard, everyday set and beat him. I'm not saying that you need to run out and buy a certain couple of expensive weapons (the tier system was invented to prevent that very thing), but you do need to see which icon types the opponent deals and blocks, and tailor your set around that. It's no use wielding a weapon that blocks more magma or ice or light than anything when Slaughtersaurus only deals those types with one of his weapons (that's likely to OHKO you anyway), for example... and you may want to reevaluate going heavy on the icon types that he full-blocks with Mighty Roar. Most of us regular battlers have weapons in our armories that we only use sometimes, when they're good against a certain opponent.

Basically, stats matter a lot in the BC, and weapons obviously matter. But strategy matters, too.